It'll be interesting to see how Xenoblade is handled in Smash Ultimate. Quite a lot has happened with the franchise since Smash 4. I think we'll see at least some XCX and XC2 music as well as Elma playable in addition to the Smash 4 content already confirmed.
@SKTTR He wasn't an assist trophy in 4. He was in Brawl, but on the move to 4 they removed all but one reference to the series which was a music track.
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@SKTTR It's already been pointed out that Isaac's AT was removed in SSB4. This, combined with his status as an unlockable AT in SSBB (we did not know about it until people had the game in their hands), the absence of anything so far isn't so hopeful as we may want to believe.
The only thing really going for Isaac this time is the Ballot, and if Sakurai took note of his place in the Ballot, then his absence so far might be more interesting. But I don't want to get hopes up too high here. I've been burnt twice hoping for him in a Smash game, and the SSB4 burn was the worst.
@Knuckles-Fajita True, except for one detail. An additional track from the series was added in SSB4 - the overworld theme from Dark Dawn.
As for Elma from Xenoblade X... eh. I would still be really happy and flip my crap if she got in, but the characters from X aren't really that interesting, even after you finish all of their affinity missions.
I'd try to main her though, because Xenoblade X is fantastic.
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Thanks for the heads up @Knuckles-Fajita and @Harmonie
It seems that after the lukewarm reception of Golden Sun 3, Isaac's chances began to crumble.
Oh, I can take Samurai Goroh also off the list (didn't realise he's already a confirmed AT), so that makes more room for Blood Falcon and Black Shadow.
Assist Trophies since Brawl:
[Advance Wars] Advance Wars (Brawl) -> Advance Wars (Wii U) -> ?
[Starfox] Andross (Brawl) -> Andross (Wii U) -> Andross (Ultimate)
[Jam with the Band] Barbara (Brawl) -> NA (Wii U) -> ?
[Devil World] Devil (Brawl) -> Devil (Wii U) -> ?
[Sim City] Dr. Wright (Brawl) -> Dr. Wright (Wii U) -> Dr. Wright (Ultimate)
[Excitebike] Excitebike (Brawl) -> NA (Wii U) -> ?
[Metal Gear] Gray Fox (Brawl) -> NA (Wii U) -> Gray Fox (Ultimate)
[Super Mario] Hammer Bro. (Brawl) -> Hammer Bro. (Wii U) -> Hammer Bro. (Ultimate)
[Kuru Kuru Kururin] Helirin (Brawl) -> NA (Wii U) -> ?
[Golden Sun] Isaac (Brawl) -> NA (Wii U) -> ?
[Earthbound] Jeff (Brawl) -> Jeff (Wii U) -> Jeff (Ultimate)
[Drill Dozer] Jill (Brawl) -> NA (Wii U) -> ?
[WarioWare] Kat & Ana (Brawl) -> Kat & Ana (Wii U) -> ?
[Kirby] Knuckle Joe (Brawl) -> Knuckle Joe (Wii U) -> Knuckle Joe (Ultimate)
[Super Mario] Lakitu (Brawl) -> Lakitu (Wii U) -> ?
[Punch-Out!!] Little Mac (Brawl) -> Fighter in Wii U -> Fighter in Ultimate
[Fire Emblem] Lyn (Brawl) -> Lyn (Wii U) -> Lyn (Ultimate)
[Metroid] Metroid (Brawl) -> Metroid (Wii U) -> Metroid (Ultimate)
[Animal Crossing] Mr. Resetti (Brawl) -> NA (Wii U) -> ?
[Nintendogs] Nintendog (Brawl) -> Nintendog (Wii U) -> Nintendog (Ultimate)
[Custom Robo] Ray MK II (Brawl) -> NA (Wii U) -> ?
[Sin And Punishment] Saki Amamiya (Brawl) -> Saki Amamiya (Wii U) -> ?
[F-Zero] Samurai Goroh (Brawl) -> Samurai Goroh (Wii U) -> Samurai Goroh (Ultimate)
[Sonic] Shadow (Brawl) -> Shadow (Wii U) -> ?
[Starfy] Starfy (Brawl) -> Starfy (Wii U) -> Starfy (Ultimate)
[Zelda] Tingle (Brawl) -> Tingle (Wii U) -> ?
[Super Mario] Waluigi (Brawl) -> Waluigi (Wii U) -> Waluigi (Ultimate)
@EvilLucario The Direct said that both Chrom and Dark Samus were highly requested. Inklings, Ridley, Simon Belmont and King K Rool are obvious. Some of the veterans missing from Smash 4 are pretty obvious too, probably enough to push the "Everyone is Here" approach.
The Nintendo direct revealed 900 tracks / 28 hours of music.
25 songs from Metroid (0h:52m:31s)
17 songs from Starfox (0h:31m:46s)
39 songs from Kirby (1h:14m:07s)
14 songs from Yoshi (0h:29m:42s)
10 songs from Wii Fit (0h:22m:24s)
02 songs from Game & Watch (0h:04m:15s)
11 songs from Bayonetta (0h:34m:23s)
36 songs from Street Fighter (0h:56m:13s)
20 songs from Sonic (0h:42m:49s)
02 songs from Final Fantasy VII (0h:03m:28s) what? only 2??
13 songs from Pac-Man (0h:30m:46s)
97 songs from Other (3h:25m:05s)
23 songs from Splatoon
34 songs from Castlevania
@ReaderRagfish I think there was request for Dark Samus, it was just really drowned out by the massive request for Ridley. I would hardly say she was one of the most requested characters, but I don't have the data.
@SKTTR what about neko from world ends with you(a series that has been a nintendo only most part only getting moblie port and the switch port this year) or sora from kingdom hearts(square owns the non disney charters in that game)Riku could be an assist trophy then.
Desidueye is the only likely new pokemon rep due to Move set in Pokken is already been made and the z-move can be the final smash with the Iki town battle stage or the Battle Royal place form sun and moon being great stage options.
Shadow(sonic echo)That be great and now due to knuckles as the assist thophy
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@andrew20 Disney actually owns all of the characters original to the Kingdom Hearts series plus the worlds created for the game. Although, if you are a fan of Geno, then you can hope that he could join in some form.
Aren’t riders basically weaker hunters but with a monster ally. Seems like they would be more varied by having the equivalent of a Pokémon along side themselves.
I don’t know, it could honestly be whatever. I just thought of it as a cool idea. Like a unique mixture between Pokémon Trainer and characters like Rosalina and Ice Climbers.
Edit: Actually, thinking about it more. A more appropriate answer would be that the riders entire shtick is riding and befriending monsters so I guess that works.
@SKTTR what about neko from world ends with you(a series that has been a nintendo only most part only getting moblie port and the switch port this year) or sora from kingdom hearts(square owns the non disney charters in that game)Riku could be an assist trophy then.
Desidueye is the only likely new pokemon rep due to Move set in Pokken is already been made and the z-move can be the final smash with the Iki town battle stage or the Battle Royal place form sun and moon being great stage options.
Shadow(sonic echo)That be great and now due to knuckles as the assist thophy
TWEWY wasn't my kind of game. I played only the demo though. And I never played Kingdom Hearts, the mix of JRPG and Disney just never appealed to me. Not big on Disney games. The last Disney games I bought were Epic Mickey (Wii) that I played it only halfway through and DuckTales Remastered that I beat.
As for Pokémon, Decidueye and also Incineroar seem to be very likely at this point. But I'm still going to say that the 2 "leaked" ones seem most likely. That doesn't mean there is not a third and fourth one.
Holy crap. This may sound like an incredulous topic to describe here, but I actually had a pretty disturbing dream of, uh, a "Final Chapter" of sorts for a Super Smash Bros story mode. I think was literally myself, but in the body of Mario witnessing these events. Similar to the events of Subspace Emissary, parts of the world were getting consumed by this dark void. The thing is, it just wasn't the land of Trophies, it was all video game worlds featured in Smash Bros. Again, I was witnessing this first hand as a bit of a lucid dream. The sky darkened and everything went black. All of us Smashes suddenly found ourselves in this ruinous sanctuary floating in the middle of this black void. There would occasionally be swirling tendrils of this brown-tannish gas in the void, but that's about it. Anyway, part of this ruinous Sancturary had a piece of the Land of Trophies attached to it, thankfully covered by temple structure, so we didn't actually have to see the void. The final boss was Master Hand gone rouge. Like even more rouge than when you battle him in Classic Mode. The thing was though, instead of how the final battle worked in Subspace Emissary worked, only a select group of fighters of us Smashers' choosing would go and fight Master Hand. And it was going to be a HP Battle Again, I was experiencing these events from a lucid dream, so the frightening notion that if we failed, it would all be over was far too present in my emotions. Of course, we hand to scrounge around the sancturary for items that would increase our HP. That part of me that was actually Mario was tempted to take as much items as I could as use them to keep those I genuinely care about alive, such as Luigi, Peach... Etc. But I knew that such items would need to be entrusted with the most trusted and powerful Smashers. For some odd reason, I — Mario was trusted to be one of the fighters to gather items and go out to battle the Master Hand. This made the fate of all worlds that much more of a burden to me and only made the fear of everything sinking into the void that much more scary. After scrounging around for said resources, we gathered at the main room. There, likewise to Mario 64, there was a painting of the Master Hand, lingering over a platform that isn't Final Destination. No, it was this ruinous, decaying brick structure floating in the middle of the void. Scarily enough, there were these sickly, deathly figures standing in front of the painting, they looked kinda like the Twilight people in the Palace of Twilight from Zelda TP, except they were well... Affected by death once before. Their empty eye sockets just stared at us Smashers. The one with any sense of sentience warned us that there was only ten minutes left before this Sancturary would be consumed into the void. That means all of the others Smashers not headed out to battle Master Hand would be consumed by the black void as well-- lights out for them. Hopefully, only temporarily if us trusted Smashers could defeat Master Hand and restore the worlds and life. Thus, we headed out to battle. The last thing I remember was watching Link battle the rouge Master Hand on that eerie brick platform with the void swirling behind. For it wasn't my turn yet... Link kept battling, but then.............. ......... I woke up ........Probably for the better. Again, I was experiencing this like it was a lucid dream. I woke up actually scared. Sorry for just how ridicously long this post is, but I thought it was kinda funny to share. Well, funny in a sense anyway...
P.S. Sonic was also there in the Sancturary, practically powerless. He wouldn't be able to save everybody again. Despite how scary this was, fingers are still crossed for a story mode in Ultimate.
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