Once you go past Pokemon, Advance Wars, Metriod, Zelda and then exclude all of the licenced games that are unlikely to come to NSO? There isn't that much else on GBA other than ports of SNES titles.
On top of that, you look at the 3rd party games when GBA was on Wii U VC...most of them wouldn't be on this because Capcom and Konami and SE are generally selling those games their own way instead (I'm surprised Genesis NSO even got the single Castlevania game tbh). Sega seems pretty on board so maybe their games (and Atlus games for that matter) would show up. But if you want to see the issues with getting a large quantity of old games on this service, the GBA is maybe the best example. And I don't think getting different versions of older games on the same service is bad at all, but it wouldn't make up for those other games either.
@skywake Adding any of the GB consoles (GB, GBC, GBA) to NSO would clash with Switch remakes, let's not forget that Nintendo delisted 3D All Stars because Mario 64 was coming to NSO Expansion Pack. So I think it's more likely instead gaps are filled with porting 3DS remakes (e.g. ORAS, Samus Returns, Superstar Saga) and natural progressions of already existing remake lines (e.g. Minish Cap remake in the Link's Awakening engine, the GBA FE games following the Echoes branding, Let's Go Johto).
I think that's a bit of a stretch. Firstly I don't think that's the reason 3D All Stars was limited run, it was limited run to try and boost sales which it did. It was on shelves for a limited time but 9mill isn't a limited volume....
Secondly and probably more importantly, even if your conspiracy theory is correct 3D All Stars had a direct ports. Certainly the inclusion of Mario 64 in NSO did nothing for me given I already had it in 3D All Stars. But as someone who has a copy of Link's Awakening I got Link's Awakening HD day 1. Because visually it's a significantly different game. I know for some reason people like to try and argue that it's not on here but, they're wrong, it's a significantly different game
And in any case, even if full HD remasters of GB games becomes a significant trend. The well isn't THAT deep. Looking at the small collections of GB(C) games I had as a kid there are plenty of games I'd like to see on NSO but not many that would fit a remasters. Few examples, Donkey Kong Land, Mario Tennis, Super Mario Land 2, Wario Land 3, Gameboy Gallery. All of these were worth revisiting but also, nobody is going to play this:
And think "man, I don't need to buy Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze now!"
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I did not like that the Link's Awakening remake was 60 bucks, and waited to find it at 40 bucks, despite the GBC version being one of my favorite Zelda games. But its clear from sales that the fact that it was a remake of an old gameboy game that you could download for a few bucks on 3DS didn't matter much to people so...yeah.
Though even if people did mind or if Nintendo did consider that a concern, I still think there's a distinct possibility all the new systems will be on the Expansion Pass anyway, even regular Gameboy. Because regular NSO will be massively successful regardless, because you need it to play first party Switch games online.
@skywake I'm looking at the reverse, Nintendo fans still value ownership massively so rather than NSO Expansion Pack devaluing $60 remasters I think it's more that $60 remasters devalues NSO Expansion Pack.
New games always just slot in from the top left, pushing everything back one (this is the case for all NSO apps). Hope this helps and I'll try and add the rest in due time!
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Something I've been thinking about for a while. Nintendo should still try to find a way to integrate some of these old games that are on Switch but not on NSO into NSO somehow. I don't think they'd be able to get most of them...actually on the service (like maybe Capcom would give them a single NES Megaman game lol). But considering how much of this is built on being a service specifically for old games, the lack of Megaman, Castlevania, Contra, Mana, Final Fantasy (I'm sure those Pixel remasters will be on Switch someday), is kind of a problem. Also the small amount of N64 games on Switch but not NSO doesn't help since N64 has less games in general.
My only idea admittedly would be to have limited time(?) sales specific to NSO membership. And even then, enough of these old games have major sales enough of the time that I'm not sure how much of an incentive that is. But it would at least mean some of the most popular NES/SNES games would actually have some connection to this NES/SNES service at least.
@kkslider5552000 There kind of the way there with the Genesis app, since that has Castlevania, Sonic 2 and all that kind of stuff, along with adding stuff like Earthworm Jim, Mappy Land and Dig Dug to the SNES and NES apps. But I would kill to have some more iconic third party games on there as well (give me Mega Man, Final Fantasy or even some left field additions like Tetris or Metal Gear and I'd be very happy). They've said it themselves that NSO is a money maker, it would be nice if they poured some of that money into grabbing the rights to put those games on.
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@TowaHerschel7 I checked there about 20 minutes ago and it wasn't there yet. I'd say wait until tomorrow morning to check (I'd say it'll probably be up by 6am if I had to give an estimate). I'm so excited for it though: I actually really liked NES Open, even with how primitive it was, so to finally get a proper Mario Golf game is so cool. Never played Super Rush either so this'll be my first one!
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when you fire up mario golf, i'd be most grateful if you could post back on how well the 3 click works with any input lag? this ruined it for me on wii VC. many thanks!!
@Dimey Played about 15 minutes worth on handheld mode, so far the 3 click input lag seems about the same as Wii VC
I played the original N64 version recently for reference. I'll try some more of the NSO version later to get a more solid opinion on the 3 click, especially the power swings.
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