Topic: Port all Wii U games?

@JayJ You actually think these ports that are all gonna release so soon actually took away so many resources from Nintendo? I refuse to believe that. Nintendo is just using these quick ports to fill in the gap or better yet give their teams time to produce new titles.

Like Switch got 3 Wiiu ports in it's first year while the rest of the games were new. This year we're getting three Wiiu ports and 3 new titles or maybe more? Who knows?. So i don't understand most of the people here.You're still getting new titles while getting filler as well. Filler you can just ignore.

I can understand people wanting new games on a new console. It seems only logical, right? But after all I have noticed new games are not always as good as older ones. I love Switch and I really like Super Mario Odyssey, really it is a lot of fun and full of surprises, but it is absolutely NOT as good as Galaxy 1. Now that I have played it, I like it, but if I had to choose I'd rather have a Super Mario Galaxy 1 port instead. The same goes for many other games too. I prefer Twilight Princess than Skyward Sword and Breath of the wild (to tell the truth, I don't like Skyward Sword and Breath if the wild at all). As I already said, I prefer Country Returns than Tropical Freeze. I would rather have Galaxy 1, Twilight Princess and Country Returns on Switch instead of those newer games. So I can understand that one always hope to see new games and expect them to be exciting, but that does not always happens. Sometimes even good games, they are good but still not as good as older ones. It is not something pleasant to know, but once you know it you can't ignore it. I have nothing against old games portings because of that, even if that means less new games will be made.

@LuckyLand Well those are some opinions that you're going to find are mostly only your own. I understand a little bit because I actually like Twilight Princess a whole lot and that has been a wildly unpopular opinion in the Zelda fanbase for years.

The thing is that Breath of the Wild and Super Mario Odyssey are a pretty big deal to both of their franchises. Breath of the Wild really changed up the direction of the Zelda series and gave us the most expansive Zelda ever. I don't hate Skyward Sword, but one thing that really bothered me about the game was the lack of a real overworld, the fact that everything felt disconnected, and also the lack of variety in the regions. This is a trend that very much could have continued on in the Zelda series. However, instead they decided to go down a different road and completely change that up, with a massive open world Zelda with a large variety of locations.

Super Mario Odyssey? Well, I'd agree that the game was a slight bit underwhelming for me... But to have preferred a Super Mario Galaxy port? You know, if they had released a Super Mario Galaxy port instead of Odyssey, I wouldn't have a Switch right now. The system would not even be on my radar. I would hate Nintendo for the Switch a hundred times over. The Super Mario series had stagnated the most. The 2D Mario series being the worst offender. However, the 3D Mario series was really beginning to follow that path as well. The original Galaxy was okay (I say that but the level design going more linear bothers me, more on that later). At the very least it had its own theme, it was something brand new. However, then Nintendo made a sequel to it. Which I guess was okay, but then people started clamoring for a Galaxy 3 instead of something brand new. The Galaxy series was a large change in the direction of the series. The exploration of 64 and Sunshine had been done away with (which is something I really thought set 64/Sunshine so far apart from the 2D series and made them something special), and now all of the levels were just narrow paths leading you down one direction. I'm not opposed to having SOME 3D Mario games like this. That's when 3D Land was introduced. Which I actually think is a neat idea... If only it were accompanying a series of 3D Mario games like 64/Sunshine, giving us both playstyles. However, for the time being it wasn't. When Super Mario 3D World was announced for the Wii U, it was kind of a blow to the Wii U and the Super Mario series for me. It got even worse when later on Nintendo said that they were planning on making a Super Mario Galaxy 3. With those two factors, the 3D Mario series was dead to me. They had officially erased the 64/Sunshine style from existence. Even worse, they had the people thinking that the Galaxy series was like 64/Sunshine. Galaxy was so well received, a sequel would make SO much money. There was no reason to ever even acknowledge the 64/Sunshine style of gameplay again. I was crushed.

...But then Odyssey happened. Somehow something must have changed at Nintendo against all odds. I don't know what it was. However, I'm very glad it did. To suggest a Galaxy port instead? I know, opinions are opinions. However, my opinion on this is so strong. A Galaxy port instead of Odyssey would have completely changed my opinion on the Switch. You think I'm negative now? lol.

The chances of Galaxy being released on the Switch in some format (probably not a full retail format) seems very likely. I mean, Super Mario Galaxy 2 was released on the Wii U in a digital format. I've heard around that Nintendo made the Switch to have the ability to emulate GCN and Wii games. So you are very likely to get what you want in time.

@Harmonie Both Galaxy games were released digitally on Wii U, not just SMG2. VC on Wii U is the main reason why it makes more sense to do Wii U ports for Switch than pre-Wii U ports for Switch. If VC happens in some form on Switch, Nintendo could just release pre-Wii U games in the same way they did on Wii U meanwhile the Switch isn't powerful enough for that to be done with Wii U games so they get ported instead.

@Harmonie I hope so. In my opinion Super Mario Galaxy 1 is one of the very best games ever made, maybe the one that get closer to pure perfection, and it is by far the absolute best Mario game ever made, and I think probably they will never be able to reach to that point again with a different game. Every other Mario game in my opinion don't even come close to it, and there are a lot of very good Mario games, but Galaxy is really something else. I have no words to explain how great and incredible it was and it still is.
I also don't think that Super Mario 64 was less linear than Super Mario Galaxy. Both games worked in a very similar way in my opinion. The main hub in Super Mario 64 was better and was a lot less linear, that's true, but the various stages were rather similar in the way they were conceived - except the fact that in Super Mario Galaxy they were so much better, more entertaining and more varied. I really don't understand why people say that Super Mario Galaxy is more linear than Super Mario 64. In my opinion Super Mario Galaxy style of gameplay is very similar to Super Mario 64 while Super Mario Odyssey is more of a mix between Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Sunshine.

@LuckyLand Very simple, Galaxy is more linear than 64 because of the main hub (like you've already said) but also you mostly had to do stars in a certain order. In 64 you had a lot more control over that order like for example you could complete most of the Dire Dire Docks stars before completing the first star of that world (Board Bowser's Sub).

Is it possible to take anybody seriously who says something like "I'm not interested in indie games"?

To be frank, asking to port over all Wii U games to the Switch, why didn't you just buy a Wii U to begin with? I'm not saying it wouldn't make me happy if the entire Wii U library was ported, because I never bought the Wii U either, but I would never ask for it. I have no right to complain about it, because I made the choice not to buy the console where the games I wanted to play where released. Thus I couldn't play them. End of story.

I sympathise with playing the Switch as a handheld as I do it too more and more lately, basically never putting it down, and playing stationary-only consoles would feel so... restricted after having gotten used to the freedom of the Switch. But it seems really disrespectful to not support the Wii U and then ask to port all the games over to the Switch. That's not how it works. Hope for great new games and be grateful for any older games that do get ported.

On a bright note, it seems Nintendo feels that the best games from the Wii U deserve a second chance on the Switch, so just be happy with all the awesome Wii U games that are already coming over. Personally I'm almost falling over myself waiting for Bayonetta 1+2.

@8-Bit_Superman

People who are disrespectful towards the Wii U do so because in their opinion Wii U don't deserve any respect. And I think they are right. It was really bad.
I don't care that much about Wii U games, for the most part, they are good but not the best out there and I aim for the best honestly so it's good if they come, but at the same time I don't mind if they don't, but I totally understand people being disrespectful towards Wii U. Disrespect is the only thing Wii U deserves as a device, for its features.

@LuckyLand I'm sorry to hear you think so. However, I must disagree. While I never bothered to buy it myself for various reasons, I don't feel the Wii U deserve any disrespect. I'm not saying everyone must love it, want it or even feel it was a good system... but to to so blatantly write it off doesn't seem fair to anyone. Yes, Nintendo made mistakes with the Wii U, but they learned from those mistakes. That alone made the Wii U worthwhile.

The Wii U also was very inventive and charted new ground that allow the Switch to be what it is. As a very satisfied Switch owner I feel that alone also made the Wii U worthwhile.

As this thread is proof of, the Wii U didn't lack amazing games, even if they aren't games that you personally feel are top-notch. I have a couple of friends that did get a Wii U, and both of them were happy with the games that did come out. Their complaints were more about how few and far between the games were. So I would argue the Wii U didn't lack quality, the problem was quantity- a healthy balance is needed that the Wii U never managed to reach.

I'm not saying the Wii U wasn't a failure- anyone with common sense can see that it was, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that it is deserving of any disrespect. Neither is Nintendo for that matter. Or any Wii U owners.

How do you either respect or disrespect an inanimate object manufactured by a multinational corporation in an attempt to generate profits?

As someone with very limited funds right now I can't just go throwing my money at everything. There surely are good indies, but with limited funds I like to save any money I can spend for games from franchises I already know I will love.

Besides a heck of a lot of the indies I have looked into just don't look interesting to me. I'm not interested in side-scrollers anymore. I also really don't care for games that try to pander to the nostalgia of NES/SNES gamers, which A LOT of indies I've seen do that graphically and gameplay-wise.

@Hallonblad the worst problem Wii U had were its features, its gimmicks. It was that when it was announced people watching the trailers on the web imagined something like the Switch is and kept asking "is it portable, right?" "the gamepad is the console, you can use the gamepad alone right?" but no, the answer to all those questions was "NO". Nintendo created something that made you want something else and they did not even imagined how a failure it would have been... But it was of course going to be a failure! It was so stupid to think that people would have seen a gamepad like this and accepted the fact that it was only a gamepad and nothing more! How Nintendo didn't imagined it in advance is beyond my comprehension.
I'm not the biggest fan of Wii U games but it wasn't the games the real, big problem Wii U had. I have never said I dislike those games that much, they just are not my favourite but they are good anyway, if I have such strong opinions against Wii U of course there are other reasons different than just its games

@LuckyLand I've never heard anyone complain about that before. The reasons I've always heard people give for the Wii U's failure were Nintendo's lack of advertising it as a distinct console from the Wii.

The Wii U was always advertised as a console for which one person/party could watch TV, while another individual who wanted to play games could be sitting in the same room and play a Wii U game on the Gamepad. I don't remember it being advertised any other way.

I'm sorry, but your complaints about the Wii U seem to be more about misinformation you had than any actual real complaints about the quality of the system itself.

@Harmonie I was not misinformed, I exactly knew what it was before I bought it and I knew I probably wouldn't have like it much but I tried it anyway because for me Playstation (except the first two iterations that I loved) and XBox consoles are even worse, I loved other Nintendo consoles (some of them. I never liked the double screen stuff, I hate the DS and I hate the double screens in the 3DS even if the 3DS has other redeeming qualities for me so I like it to some extent) so I decided to try it anyway. I just have read those kind of comments in many youtube videos back then, those were the same things that I thought at first and I kept reading questions and comments like those even after I understood how this console was really going to be, after reading about it. So it means other people too desired something like the Switch instead of what Wii U was when they first saw the Wii U. I remember having read comments like those by other people on the net.

I'm sure that part of the success of Switch is due to the fact that it finally gives people something that they started desiring five years before

@electrolite77 Use the force.

The Wii u is great. My opinion.
Lots of hidden gems.

Then why did you reply to my first post to begin with? Clearly it wasn't aimed at you or anyone who wasn't demanding Wii U ports without having bothered to support them in the first place. If you read it, you will see that it was aimed at OP and people of that mindset.

How is that disrespectful? Assume I never owned a copy of the Goonies on VHS. Then I bought a DVD player. Is it disrespectful to want it on DVD? Or am I being disrespectful, and should have bought it on the first format it came out in and now I'll just have to miss out.
A good movie is a good movie. Whatever format it's on it should get the chance to be enjoyed.
Same for games.

Do you even read my posts before you reply, or do you see that I've written something and decide to answer without knowing what you are answering to in the first place?

As I've stated repeatedly: If you couldn't be bothered to support the Wii U, you have no right to ask for all of the games to be ported over to the Switch just because you feel like you're "missing out." If they do get ported anyway; yay, lucky you! You get to play the game(s)!

Same goes for the Goonies. If you find it on DVD, then lucky you! You get to see it on DVD! But I wouldn't recommend you tromp around the internet and demand that Warner Bros release it in whatever format it is you want it in. (... it is Warner Bros that produced the Goonies, right?) That is up to the studio.

The same for games. If any game gets ported is up to Nintendo, not the people who couldn't be bothered to support the games the first time around. There are plenty of games on the Wii U I would be happy to see ported over, but I'm not going to whine about "missing out" to anyone if they don't come over to the Switch since I have no one to blame I didn't get to play them but myself in the first place.

@LuckyLand I see where you're coming from, but it's funny that the same way you feel towards the Wii U, I feel towards the Wii. The Wii was easily my least favorite Nintendo console ever. Too many games destroyed by pointless gimmicks - take Mario Galaxy. The Waggle, disembodied two-hand controller and pointer controls (which were annoying cause I'd always have to lean forward and consciously change how I'm sitting so the sensor bar would recognize the remote) hurt the game a lot, and the linearity and seeming lack of originality after a while (small planet with little change, beat it, get to a shooting star, repeat, repeat, fight a boss that can be defeated with 3 hits. Obtain star. Repeat) made it and Galaxy 2 my least favorite entries in 3D Mario. Twilight Princess is an excellent game, but I disliked it on Wii cause of the waggle and terrible graphics/resolution and separate controllers - TP HD on Wii U made me fully appreciate the game's excellence.

So TLDR; not trying to say your opinion was wrong, just saying how interesting our opinions are so different. I'm a big fan of the Wii U, it brought me back into Nintendo after the Wii sent me running to PS3 land (which was to me a HUGE improvement over the Wii in every aspect, but that's another story for another time). The Wii U's gimmick drove up the system cost and wasn't used often, but at least it wasn't as intrusive as the Wii's gimmicks IMHO. And the Wii U's 1080p resolution, proper controllers (besides the screen, the GamePad could be used like a regular controller with regular inputs), and functional online (the first time online was consistently great across all games on any Nintendo system ever) easily makes it great IMHO.

But that isn't what this thread is about anyway lol.