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StuTwo

There’s some games that make absolutely no sense. The Wii U will always have a few unique games that will never work elsewhere because they’re so heavily built around the dual screen setup.

Others have simply been/will be superseded (like Splatoon - though I’d still love to see the campaign come to Splatoon 2. It was fantastic) or are unfortunate enough to be in major franchises such that they have to join the queue because Nintendo won’t release 2-3 competing games in that one franchise every year (so WW HD and Mario 3D World will have to wait. Even though 3D World is the perfect Switch game).

In general though my attitude is port away.

I’d also like to see ports of many notable 3DS games like Luigis Mansion Dark Moon and Kid Icarus Uprising. Fill that release schedule.

StuTwo

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JayJ

@MsJubilee Actually quite the contrary. These ports ARE hurting the console. These games don't just magically come out of nowhere, it takes a considerable amount of resources to make them, and by porting over a game it makes it so they can just sort of forget about making a proper sequel.

To people who actually want new games porting over the Wii U library is ruining what we wanted out of the Switch. It is nice to have a few things, but this is quickly going overboard and turning the Switch into something it never should have been.

JayJ

JayJ

@spizzamarozzi @Ryu_Niiyama Yeah my thoughts exactly. The Switch should have new software designed for it. If these people really wanted these Wii U games so badly, I have to keep asking why they didn't just buy a Wii U. It's like they admit how they have a strong desire for the exclusive library that it had yet they keep calling it crap for some reason. It's very odd since a game console is always defined by it's games.

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Grumblevolcano

@JayJ Disagree, a game console is defined by the combination of its games and the system itself. For example, if Microsoft had gone ahead with their insane initial plans for XB1 that was revealed in 2013 it would be irrelevant how good the games library was because of how bad the things like always online are.

It's totally fine to like games for a certain console but not buy said console because you don't like the console itself.

Grumblevolcano

LuckyLand

JayJ wrote:

@spizzamarozzi @Ryu_Niiyama Yeah my thoughts exactly. The Switch should have new software designed for it. If these people really wanted these Wii U games so badly, I have to keep asking why they didn't just buy a Wii U. It's like they admit how they have a strong desire for the exclusive library that it had yet they keep calling it crap for some reason. It's very odd since a game console is always defined by it's games.

I bought a Wii U. I sold it only AFTER having bought a Switch. So I had it in my home for several years. But despite having kept it for so long, after a few weeks and a few games I just put it back inside its package and forgot about it. Games were rather good, yes that's true, but they were a lot less good than older Wii and Gamecube games. The console itself was annoying to use. I also was disappointed because it also lacked Photo channel, somerhing that have always been quite important for me and I used it a lot on Wii.
So some games were good, ok, but Wii games were better, Gamecube games were better too, and I was able to play them on Wii but NOT on Wii U. So basically if playing with Wii U I was discarding half of my favourite games to have some new games that were good ok, but were still worse. The console itself was very annoying to use. The games where the double screens were mandatory gave me headaches. It also lacked media apps that I was fond of on Wii. Why in the hell should I have enjoyed it? Why should I have invested money in games less good than the ones I already had for a console that was almost painful to use? I had it but refused soon to buy games for it and to use it anymore. One has the right to despise how a console works even if he don't dislike its games.
And those games were not that special anyway. They were ok, yes, I would be glad to play them on a co sole that I like, yes, but there were much better games in the past. I'm going to buy Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze because I like it, but I'd like Donkey Kong Country Returns a lot more. I will buy Tropical Freeze and I think it is a good game, that does not mean I was craving for it or I'm drooling over Wii U library. I hated that console, if I have the chance to play some if its games I can enjoy on a console that I like, fine, it's a good thing. If not, there are other, OLDER games that I would want a lot more.
Wii U was a really ugly piece of hardware. People are entitled to ask for its games to be ported to a new console that they prefer as much as Nintendo was entitled to build such a failure and try to force people to use such a gimmicky disaster to enjoy its games.

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I used to be a ripple user like you, then I took The Arrow in the knee

spizzamarozzi

JayJ wrote:

@MsJubilee Actually quite the contrary. These ports ARE hurting the console. These games don't just magically come out of nowhere, it takes a considerable amount of resources to make them, and by porting over a game it makes it so they can just sort of forget about making a proper sequel.

I find it funny how people think that implementing a web browser DOES take away a considerable amount of resources but porting a full game DOESN'T. As if by magic.

I simply don't understand why these games were so unattractive on WiiU (or not attractive enough to buy the machine that plays them) but mystifyingly attractive on Switch. It can't simply be because they become portable, right?! Most of you would still play them on the couch anyway, like you could with the WiiU. Beside, unlike GameCube or Wii games, these WiiU games are still available to buy in stores. Amazon still carries them if you want them.

As for the Dreamcast comparison, as someone who owned and supported the Dreamcast from its release year onwards, I was very disappointed with the videogame audience and I couldn't understand why they refused to buy a console that I thought was excellent and higly original. There are many reasons why the Dreamcast failed, and one of them is the ignorance of the audience, who at the time thought that "entertainment" was Gran Turismo 2, a driving game where you first have to earn a licence in order to drive. So yeah, I was pretty disappointed years later when all the internet people started celebrating the Dreamcast as if it were the last bastion of originality in gaming because I thought "Where the hell were you when the console needed support??".

I don't have a Switch and I have no interest in buying one. But I sure won't expect Nintendo to port all the Switch games I like on their next system just because I wasn't fond of the previous console. Consoles wouldn't be divided by "generations" if the whole idea was to go backwards rather than forward.

Top-10 games I played in 2017: The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild (WiiU) - Rogue Legacy (PS3) - Fallout 3 (PS3) - Red Dead Redemption (PS3) - Guns of Boom (MP) - Sky Force Reloaded (MP) - ...

LuckyLand

Grumblevolcano perfectly explained something that there should never even be the need to explain. One can really dislike a console itself, no matter if he likes its games or not. That's even more true for a Nintendo console, since often they are so full of gimmicks and strange features... It's so obvious that one can just dislike those things. I disliked both Wii and Wii U features, the difference is that Wii games were GREAT enough to force me to use a control method that at first I did not like, but Wii U games were not that great instead. That does not mean they were not good, but it was the console itself that was horrible.
It's so simple yet some of you refuse to understand it. A console have various features, Nintendo consoles lately have had some VERY WEIRD features, it is only natural that a customer can judge a console for those features too, not just for its games.

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I used to be a ripple user like you, then I took The Arrow in the knee

Harmonie

@LuckyLand It's funny, because when we talk about forcing people to use a gimmicky disaster just to enjoy games, the very first thing I think of is the Wii. The Wii forced motion control to even get past the main menu into a game. Many games such as Super Mario Galaxy, Animal Crossing City Folk (which was a horrible Animal Crossing game, anyway), Twilight Princess (thankfully the GCN version also came out), etc. forced usage of the Wii Remote, even though it was incredibly inconvenient and annoying.

At least the "gimmick" of the Wii U was just the standard practice they had been using on the DS line. It wasn't anything particularly amazing, but it wasn't anywhere near on the level of the Wii's motion controls. That is aside from some instances, like some of the shrines in Breath of the Wild. Even still, the Switch version of BoTW also requires motion control in those same instances - there's no escaping it!

You and I have very different opinions on the quality of the games. I don't think that there was ever a Wii game that was really good enough to force me to use the motion controls. The Wii is home to some of the most disappointing entries in Nintendo series that I've ever played. And that's not even because of the motion controls. Animal Crossing City Folk still would have been a watered down port of Wild World, even if it didn't have forced motion controls. Either way, I'd much rather deal with the dual screens of the Wii U than the motion control of the Wii. The motion control was just awful.

Harmonie

mowerdude

If people want Wii U games so badly they need to just quit whining and buy a Wii U console already, instead of begging for Nintendo to port the whole Wii U library to Switch. I buy new consoles for new games not ports.

mowerdude

1UP_MARIO

I love Mario kart 8. Played that to death on the Wii u. I bought Mario kart 8 deluxe for the switch and play that too occasionally not as much as I played the 8 on the U. Just sad we won't see a mario kart 9 anytime soon.

Tropical freeze was another great i have on the U and was hoping for a sequel but now seems unlikely.

Splatoon was another great title and at least we got the sequel on the switch.

I hope we get smash 5 rather than 4 deluxe definitive edition but realistically I can't see that happening. It will go the deluxe route.

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We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.

mowerdude

My Nintendo Switch is going to be collecting more dust than my Wii U ever did. With all these ports of older Wii U games. I only own Mario Odyssey, Zelda Breath of the Wild, and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe only for the real battle mode.

Glad I also own a PS4 for games that are actually not ports this year like God of War, The Last of US II, Red Dead Redemption 2, Days Gone, A Way Out, Monster Hunter Worlds, ETC.

As for the Switch what is coming out this year that isn't a port or a indie game?

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mowerdude

1UP_MARIO

@8-Bit_Superman and that was the main reason I picked up 8 deluxe. I have a 7 year and 5 year old and it's the battle mode and assistmode that makes it a great feature. But it's nice to be selfish once in a while and hope mario kart 9 to come soon. Please nintendo

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We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.

mowerdude

@MarcelRguez The only games from what you listed that I am interested in is Yoshi, and Bayonetta 3 and Prime 4 and more than likely 2 out of the 3 won't be coming this year. So yes my Switch will be the dust collector this year. Not interested in the rest of the games you listed. Fe I will get on the PS4.

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mowerdude

1UP_MARIO

@mowerdude you can stop the dust collecting if you get a damp cloth and give it a wipe once in a while😉

You can also get great games which are available like splatoon 2. Mario and rabbids kingdom battle. Arms, games that are available now.

Plus you still have your Wii u and it's a great time to buy Wii u games for cheap.

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We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.

mowerdude

@MarcelRguez Fe will more than likely be cheaper on PS4 and run better when it releases, since everytime a game comes out on Switch is usually priced at least $10 higher for the Switch version and runs worst there. As for indies I hardly every purchase indie games anywhere don't really care for them.

1UP_MARIO wrote:

@mowerdude you can stop the dust collecting if you get a damp cloth and give it a wipe once in a while😉

You can also get great games which are available like splatoon 2. Mario and rabbids kingdom battle. Arms, games that available now.

Plus you still have your Wii u and it's a great time to buy Wii u games for cheap.

Not going to waste $60 on Splatoon 2 since I didn't really care for first one. Arms not interested in it at all. I will eventually get Mario and Rabbids Kingdom battle when I can get it for a cheaper price don't really see it being worth $60, but if I can get it for around $40 I will grab it then. Done own all the Wii U games that I wanted to pickup.

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mowerdude

Luna_110

@mowerdude
FE..... on the PS4?
You're going to wait a long while for that one....

I have a chronic lack of time, for everything.

Now playing: Okami HD, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.

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Luna_110

Oh, that's right, I've forgotten about that one. Though he was talking about Fire Emblem.

I have a chronic lack of time, for everything.

Now playing: Okami HD, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.

Switch Friend Code: SW-8536-9884-6679

Harmonie

@mowerdude I think Mario & Rabbids was actually on a sale just a few days ago (I don't think it is anymore). I'm not sure exactly how cheap it was, though. I think it was $50 at most, probably in the $40s. Fortunately the game isn't straight-up first party so it is perhaps immune from Nintendo and their tendency to not allow their games to go on sale.

I'm in a similar position as you, though. The franchises that are getting new entries on the Switch so far don't do anything for me aside from Super Mario Odyssey. For me, there's actually nothing of interest that they've announced for 2018 at all. I mean, Pokemon could come out this year, but if it's anything like Sun/Moon I won't care for it, so I can't even say I'm interested in that, sadly.

For some people, even Wii U owners, there has been plenty to offer on the Switch. However, for others whose preferences in franchises are those which are just getting ports or haven't been announced, it really is frustrating.

I suppose I'd have less of an issue with say a port of SSB4 if it was legitimately just to port it over for people who didn't own the Wii U, while a sequel was being developed and had been announced. Instead, it could cause there to be no new Super Smash Bros on the Switch, and there are people actually wanting it that way.

Ports may take less development time and resources than a new game (although the numbers are still far from being zero), but each and every port that is developed and released fall into different functions, which can actually effect whether a new title will come out or not. Ports like Bayonetta 1&2 function to give Switch owners the opportunity to catch up with the series (or at least to advertise it). We know this because a new Bayonetta was announced alongside them. However, I think we all should realize this is not the circumstance that a lot of ports come from. This is why I am against a lot of ports. Unless I see reasonable cause to hope for a new title in the franchise alongside the port, I am against them.

Harmonie

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