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Ulysses

@status-204 I don't know if you've played World (or if you own a PS4), but in World you can completely turn off the HUD, and even the music! Hopefully they carry those additions over to Rise, which I expect they will.

Rexenoboy wrote:

I'm thinking about making this my first Monster Hunter game because I never played one before.

There are a couple of things I want to know before I jump in though:

It's great to see your interest! Monster Hunter Rise is the perfect game to jump into the franchise. It looks to have all of the modern conveniences and better tutorial of MHWorld.

I and others will be happy to answer any questions you might have! It's been said before in this thread, but you probably won't find a nicer game community than Monster Hunter's. We've been a smaller, more dedicated bunch for many years. World brought in a lot of fair-weathered mainstream gamers on PS4, but back on Switch you'll probably have a much larger ratio of hardcore fans.

Rexenoboy wrote:

  • Is there a continues storyline between games?

Not at all! Each game has its own self-contained storyline, so the storyline starts fresh every time! Admittedly, the storyline isn't very long or fleshed out compared to other "Action RPG's," but MHWorld and now Rise boast the most involved storylines, with full-fledged cutscenes!

Rexenoboy wrote:

  • Can you customize your character at the start?

Yes you can! MHWorld and now Rise will have extensive character customization options.

Rexenoboy wrote:

  • Are you able to switch between classes / weapons mid game or do you need to specialize?

Each weapon type is considered its own weapon class, and you can equip any one you like between each quest. And, starting with MHWorld, even in the middle of a quest you can return to your camp and swap equipment.

Rexenoboy wrote:

  • Is there a lot of grinding involved?

Without sugarcoating this, Monster Hunter as a franchise has a lot of "Looter genre" grinding. But! As others say, the gameplay loop is part of the fun, and MHRise looks to follow in World's footsteps to help streamline the process for newer players.

Rexenoboy wrote:

  • How long is the main campaign and is there a lot of post-game?

I can't say how long Rise will be, but I can say that it looks to mirror World's more involved story cutscenes, so a pretty good amount of main campaigning can be expected. It will be longer than an action game, but not as long as a traditional JRPG.

Rexenoboy wrote:

Thanks in advance for answering guys!

You're very welcome! Feel free to ask as many questions as you like! We love seeing new players jumping in for the first time. Nothing more fun than to go on a hunt with an inexperienced player, vicariously experiencing through them the thrill and tension for the first time all over again!

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Ulysses

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@Rexenoboy

Another carry-over from MHW to MHR is the layered armor (transmog) system. If there's an armor set you think looks dope you can craft the layered set and keep that look while still progressing your gear.

Secondly, MH is sort of like a weapons simulator. Each weapon has a different playstyle from the next. So if one particular weapon isn't to your liking you can try a different weapon in the following hunt. The game gives you a starter class weapon of every type right from the beginning, so you aren't committed to one weapon immediately.

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Ulysses

Now that the Deluxe/Collector's editions are live, I'm waiting to see what the exclusive layered armor will be. If the layered armor looks great, then I might rather get the Deluxe Edition + full amiibo set, especially since $30 for 1 amiibo + pin + stickers might not be worth it to me when I could put that $30 toward the two other amiibos with the full set.

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Ulysses

EOTW

@Rexenoboy To add to what has been said already, Monster Hunter as a whole tends to be more than 50% post game in my experience. Of course that depends on your definition of post-game, and it varies from game to game.
Also, yes MH is one of the grindiest games out there BUT it's not the mind numbing grind you may be thinking of. Each hunt is unique even when you hunt the same monster several times for its armor set, and the gameplay is so deep that it stays interesting near indefinitely. And the game never requires you to hunt a monster more than once (except in special cases) so if you don't like one you can move on after beating it.

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Magician

@JaxonH

My favorite rumor right now is that MHR looks too good. So good in fact that perhaps MHR is the tentpole game for the next Switch revision? Personally, I think that's hogwash, MHR looks as good as it does because RE Engine is a powerful development tool. If a Switch revision is coming in 2021 BotW 2 will be the tentpole game, not MHR.

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@Magician I personally think ubber graphics games releasing in 2021 is a sure sign of Switch 2 not just rumors and that BOTW2 release is more or less signing watch for coming Switch 2.

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Ulysses

@Magician @SwitchForce I disagree with both of you! I think a modest Switch Pro ala N3DS upgrade is coming in March to coincide with MHRise, replete with a MHRise Limited Edition Switch model just like MH4U's N3DSXL model, and also like Pokemon Sword/Shield's limited edition Switch Lite.

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JaxonH

Ulysses wrote:

@Magician @SwitchForce I disagree with both of you! I think a modest Switch Pro ala N3DS upgrade is coming in March to coincide with MHRise, replete with a MHRise Limited Edition Switch model just like MH4U's N3DSXL model, and also like Pokemon Sword/Shield's limited edition Switch Lite.

My honest thoughts are, well for one, I dont think Zelda is gonna make it in March. It's too soon after Hyrule Warriors. Will likely be the holiday game next year. But... the game does look suspiciously good for the Switch.

With that said, I am inclined to agree that it's likely normal Switch footage. If there is a Switch+ coming theyll probably want to show off how it looks better than what we've seen at that time. I think the RE Engine is just really awesome and MH team makes sick looking games, and this was an exclusive built ground up which we havent really seen much from competent 3rd party devs. Now we see what's possible. If a Switch+ is revealed for March, which I think is likely, they'll show "improved framerate" and if a Switch version of DLSS is used, ensure it outputs at higher resolution. I really do think the game just looks good because it's an exclusive from the MH team using RE Engine.

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TheFrenchiestFry

So I guess now it's officially confirmed MH Rise is using the RE Engine

If it's a custom built Switch-specific version of the engine maybe the console will finally get a shot at getting specifically optimized ports of the other RE Engine games. I think DMC5 would probably be way too taxing on the hardware especially looking at Legendary Dark Knight mode in the Special Edition, but maybe now the Switch can finally get a proper native port of Resi 7?

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JaxonH

@TheFrenchiestFry
Negative.

Dusk Golem already deconfirmed that. He said they tried to get RE7 on Switch at one point, but with unsatisfactory results. He clarified any RE games for Switch would likely need to be built ground up using the Switch-compatible RE Engine similar to Monster Hunter Rise.

They were developing RE Revelations 3 for Switch, but scrapped it and used the material for RE Village. But I suspect they’re still going to make RE Revelations 3, it’ll just come later.

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TheFrenchiestFry

@JaxonH Ah ok

If RE7 wasn't doable then I really can't see something like Devil May Cry 5 making it over and that's kind of sad considering how quickly in succession the PS2 trilogy got ported over. They're likely stopping at 4SE it looks like.

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JaxonH

@TheFrenchiestFry
Right. But on the bright side, DMC4 is supposed to be coming, probably even this year still. That was leaked by a credible leaker already. I hope the DMC reboot also makes it over after that.

Give us our MH Rise built ground up (along with MH Generations Ultimate), MH Stories 2 ground up, RE Revelations 3 ground up (along with RE0, RE1, RE4, RE5, RE6, RE Revelations 1/2), give us DMC4 and DMC reboot (along with the HD trilogy), we already got Dragons Dogma and Mega Man 11, give us Mega Man X9... and I’d say we’ll be doing pretty good on the Capcom side.

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Rexenoboy

@Ulysses @Magician @EOTW
Thank you all for the lovely responses. They pretty much confirmed what I already thought what the game would be like. Now I'm sure I'm going to play Rise. It sounds like a lot of fun. I guess my first game of 2021 is now locked!

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TheFrenchiestFry

@JaxonH If DmC comes over it better be the Definitive Edition that was released on PS4/Xbox One since PC got screwed over hard on that front. I'd also personally like to see the remaster of Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 as well as Ultra Street Fighter IV come over as well on the subject of MT Framework games.

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Ulysses

@JaxonH So basically... give us 10-ish more games and we'll be doing pretty good Just joshing. But on that matter, it seems like even if we got every single game you mentioned, Capcom haters still wouldn't be satisfied! Ah well. Despite the faults that both Capcom and Square Enix hold, they inarguably give some of the strongest third-party support for Switch. The most premiere third-party titles made from the ground up for Switch are from both of them now. (DQXIS, Octopath, soon to be Rise, Stories 2 and Bravely Default 2)

@TheFrenchiestFry I understand a lot of DMC and RE fans would love those games before anything else, but for me, I just desperately want to see Megaman Legends 3 with RE Engine. Imagine it looking as good as Stories 2...

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JaxonH

So do you guys think we'll have multiple camps within the maps? Or will it be a single camp like the OG games?

Either way, it doesnt seem like those pterodactyls are in the game for fast travel. Seems we'll be using our palamute for traversing the map quickly. And that likely means that, while the maps are big and open, they might not be quite as big as the World maps (which would make sense given less powerful hardware also). This would eliminate the need for multiple camps and fast travel. A palamute that can run fast along with wire bugs that let you climb mountains could suffice.

Also, it seems mantles won't be returning either, and I think that's a good thing. They were too OP, they hid your hunter's fashionable look.

Above all, I hope you cant restock potions indefinitely at camp. That broke the game in World. It may be mitigated without fast travel making it incredibly easy to go back and restock, so if there isnt fast travel, that is at least some comfort, but ya. I really disliked Infinite potion restocking with fast travel to do it. I liked preparing for hunts and having a limit for what you could bring into the hunt. Otherwise a noob could take 50 min to down a monster because they keep fast traveling and restocking. It's better when they run out of potions and cart. Let people hit a wall if they're under prepared skill wise or armor wise.

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JaxonH

@Ulysses

Actually we already have most the games I listed, or they've been confirmed. And DMC4 and Mega Man X9 are already leaked as coming to Switch, so they're basically a lock. The only other ones I mentioned was DMC reboot and RE Revelations 3, and RE Revelations 3 is highly likely to release at some point. So we're not quite 10 games away, more like 2 (provided the leaked games come to fruition, which they will).

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TheFrenchiestFry

@JaxonH I understand the mentality of DMC4 SE and Mega Man X9 given how well Legacy Collection and the DMC ports did but I had no idea they were already leaked? Were they rated at all or was it that Golem Dusk guy?

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Ulysses

@JaxonH Oh I see! I'll have to do more research next time

Is X9 going to be a brand new title? That would be very cool to see!

As far as World mechanics go, I think we'll have to prepare ourselves to see a lot, if not most, of the conveniences brought over from World. For instance, from one of the clips you can see him briefly run past a vigor wasp.

In fact... I'm betting those glowing bugs at the top of the mountain peak from another clip might indicate that wirebugs are somehow treated similarly like clutch claw ammo. Wirebugs zip around the player in odd ways after each use in the clips, almost like they're flying or fading away.

Making wirebug usage limited, akin to clutch claw ammo, might be a way to balance it to prevent 24/7 wirebug dodging in combat.

But we'll have to see! Just like with mantles, Capcom showed so little that we'll just have to wait for TGS live gameplay to get a better glimpse at what exactly they're bringing over.

But yes, I'm also hoping that they pull back on a few of World's additions like mantles and fast-travel in Rise. A lot of conveniences World gave for PS4 Mainstreamuals made the game feel more arcade-y and less immersive like the other games, like how each tool was limited and had to be crafted from something. It hit home the idea that nothing came for free in the Monster Hunter world. (I call them Mainstreamuals because they're not exactly Wii-era Casuals, but yes, basically PS4 casuals)

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Ulysses

JaxonH

@TheFrenchiestFry
Someone else, but they're rock solid. Same person who leaked DMC HD Collection.

@Ulysses
Agreed about the wire bugs. I thought same thing seeing those 3 different colored glowing bugs which apparently restock the wire bug. Not sure what the 3 colors mean though.

I'm also 100% down with vigorwasps. I liked most of the changes in World. Theres just a few specific ones I think maybe didnt work out as well as intended. Still, even if the game is identical to World in every respect, World is still a great game and the positives far outweigh any negatives. So either way I'm super hyped. But, if they can tweak and make a few changes to improve further... even better.

My biggest hope would be for activated skill thresholds with negative skills again. I loved strategizing how to to get a skill to activate, and gemming out the negatives. But to do that you really need craftable decorations rather than RNG decorations. So I hope that goes back to the old approach as well. Let talismans be RNG instead. But again, even if they dont revert back to the old style, I can live with it.

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