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Hayter

No because I have this Retrofit gamecube style controller grip to slide the switch into and it makes literally every game on the system the best version possible. Never had this much fun with a third party controller.

Hayter

ophone

jowe_gv wrote:

even if you stick to Nintendo only (which you shouldn't btw).

I totally agree with what you wrote between parenthesis, especially if the Switch is your main gaming platform as in my case.
There are many excellent 3rd party games on that thing.

Since January 2021 owner of my first real Nintendo "home" console.

jowy_sw

@Bolt_Strike I knew this would happen since 2017. Nintendo is not going to release a new big mainline Zelda or Mario for a while and it seems a lot of Nintendo fans don't consider the other Nintendo series to even count as games when recounting the previous year. If they are not Mario or Zelda (and maybe some B series that they grew up with), they may not even exist.

I know this point is mean but comments like this don't make me change opinions to be honest. I've heard so many variants of the same comment that I just don't know how to react anymore. Yes, Xenoblade 3, Kirby and The Forgotten Land and Bayonetta 3 count as Nintendo games released last year. Even with different gaming tastes, they were released and were Nintendo published games.

jowy_sw

jump

gcunit wrote:

I'd have thought this was a minority viewpoint, considering the reputations the end of the Wii and Wii U eras had for games, and given the amount of great games released on Switch in 2022 and those still to come in 2023. It's hard for me to relate with the idea that you were happier as a Wii user in 2011-12, or a Wii U user in 2016, than you've been as a Switch user within 12 months of Pokémon Legends Arceus, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Bayonetta 3, Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Splatoon 3, Persona 5, Crisis Core, Nintendo Switch Sports, No Man's Sky, Portal 1&2, Nier Automata, Chained Echoes, Return to Monkey Island, Shredder's Revenge, Triangle Strategy, Live A Live, Mario & Rabbids Sparks of Hope, Lego Star Wars, Trails from Zero, Fire Emblem Three Hopes having released, and with games such as Fire Emblem Engage, Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, and Octopath Traveller 2 on the horizon, plus many other announced and unannounced games.

In that kind of context I'm not surprised that some people see it as a little edge-lordy and baity. I'm interested to know what sort of Nintendo fan you are whereby those lull years I've mentioned above so easily surpass the 18 months from Jan. 2022 to June 2023.

I'd add 13 Sentinels, It Takes Two, Shovel Knight Dig, Sifu, Inscryption and Cult of the Lamb on there as well.

It is mental how much port begging goes on at this site to the point I hated seeing yet another "Where is Persona 5" thread/post on here yet the bloody thing comes out which takes 100+ hours just on the first playthrough with a few other long requested ports like Nier, Portal, No Man's Sky etc only for people to complain they are bored now.

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Nicolai wrote:

Alright, I gotta stop getting into arguments with jump. Someone remind me next time.

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Taceus

jump wrote:

It is mental how much port begging goes on at this site to the point I hated seeing yet another "Where is Persona 5" thread/post on here yet the bloody thing comes out which takes 100+ just on the first playthrough with a few other long requested ports like Nier, Portal, No Man's Sky etc only for people to complain they are bored now.

Through observing NL forum threads and article comments as well as other areas on the internet, I've come to the conclusion that complaining has become as big a pastime as gaming for the very vocal minority unfortunately, but alas, where else would they get the validation they desire.

'I used to be with 'it', then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it', and what's 'it' is weird and scary to me. It'll happen to you too.' - Abe Simpson

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jowy_sw

@Judgedean I tried to be fair in my comments. I didn't insult anyone here and tried to see your point. It's just, in my opinion, because this is a Nintendo fan site, there is also people that come here knowing that to leave comments trying to rile up Nintendo fans. It happens and it's as old as consoles themselves.
I'm not saying that you had that objective. Like I said, you probably ended up being the one that I left a somewhat passive aggresive comment.

About the games you mentioned being avaliable in newer and/or more expensive machines while looking better. I mean... It's not weird. The Switch is a portable console released in 2017 at 300 dollars. It's getting to the end of it's lifecycle too. Those games are still on Switch tho and are probably "playable enough" for a lot of people.

Although I'm interested in another part of your comment, the one about the Wii. It's odd seeing someone saying that they left the PS3 and Xbox360 for the Wii, specially someone who is complaining about current Nintendo platform being behind in graphics and performance, considering the WIi had the exact same issues.
And it's also a platform that had severe software doughts at times and let's not forget the indie part of games being much smaller so it was probably way worse than the Switch. And a lot of 3rd party (and even 1rst/2nd party at times) focused a lot of their output on casual games, which probably didn't help for more core fans.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Wii, I grew up with it. I'm just saying that it had it's downsides and they seem to be similar to those you say the Switch has.

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jowy_sw

jowy_sw

@Taceus I want to be fair and think that they are different people but one think that I don't get is... how are people capable of beating games so fast? I'm serious.
Recently I'm trying to reduce my backlog (since I bought a PC so... I'm a bit tight on money) and I'm trying to beat games that I bought like 2 years ago like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon DX (that I bought at launch). And I finshed Xenoblade 3 like 2 months ago and still have games like Bayonetta 3 on my backlog. And I don't buy all the games Nintendo releases.
And I'm not a person that is like REALLY busy. I have a job and such but not much else aside from that and I still can't have time to beat games that fast.

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jowy_sw

jump

jowe_gv wrote:

@Taceus I want to be fair and think that they are different people but one think that I don't get is... how are people capable of beating games so fast? I'm serious.
Recently I'm trying to reduce my backlog (since I bought a PC so... I'm a bit tight on money) and I'm trying to beat games that I bought like 2 years ago like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon DX (that I bought at launch). And I finshed Xenoblade 3 like 2 months ago and still have games like Bayonetta 3 on my backlog. And I don't buy all the games Nintendo releases.
And I'm not a person that is like REALLY busy. I have a job and such but not much else aside from that and I still can't have time to beat games that fast.

Half the time I reckon folk aren't actually playing the games they buy as they just want that hunter gatherer chemical release in their brain to think they accomplished something when buying something new.

Nicolai wrote:

Alright, I gotta stop getting into arguments with jump. Someone remind me next time.

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jowy_sw

@jump Honestly, I think you're right. Specially when talking about huge games like Xenoblade or Dragon Quest. I took like 130 hours to beat Xenoblade 3, which translated into like 2-3 months of playing that game the majority of free time for videogames I had. And I want to buy Persona 4 and 5 this year, which are also huge games that I'll probably take months to beat.
That's why I'm confused when people say that there is not much to play on Switch when my backlog and wishlish on Switch alone are huge. And the majority of them are new games (and basically all of them games I never played before). I'm still trying to finish the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon DX post game and that game has been in my backlog since 2020 (mainly because Animal Crossing released the same month).

You can say a lot about the Switch: Nintendo still weird with letting people communicate with each other with it, the retro content is still being dripfeeded, the console is showing it's age with some games, etc. But... That there are "no games"? That Nintendo releases few exclusive games for it? I barely have time to play what they are releasing now and I couldn't play all the exclusive Nintendo games they released last year, nevermind exclusives from before.

And, I have to admit, I do hoard games for the sake of it too in a way, specially retro games. Only recently I finished my university degree and started to work in that field, meaning that I'm now saving money and such but It also means that I have my own income now. Having my own income means that I can get more games which translated into buying retro games of the platforms I grew up with (DS, Wii and even 3DS). And the majority of those games are just... there. And they'll probably be just there for a long time. I've bought the two DS Zelda games last year and I don't even know if I'm going to play them this year but I like that they are in my collection. And I can see that happening with newer games too. Now you have Persona 5 on Switch, great... are you going to play it?

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jowy_sw

Taceus

@jowe_gv I think you've been quite fair and reasonable in your posts which makes you a better person than I. I'm a get-off-my-lawn, shakes-fists-at-the-clouds grumpy old man in a late 30's body LOL.
I must admit, I'm kinda' envious of those who play through a ton of games. I'm in a similar boat as you, with not only a backlog on Switch but Wii U, 3DS and Steam as well. I don't buy the majority of 1st party titles and I have a reasonable amount of spare time to play. What I've noticed though unfortunately is that I start to burn out after 2.5 hrs of gaming and need to do something else, although some games will capture me for 4 or more hours. I wish it wasn't like that, but it is what it is.
I think jump has a point, and I'm guilty of that. I swear I get a chemical kick from buying games on sale/discounted. It simultaneously satisfies my inner child who had a limited library of games growing up and my cheapskate, bargain hunting adult self.

'I used to be with 'it', then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it', and what's 'it' is weird and scary to me. It'll happen to you too.' - Abe Simpson

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jowy_sw

@Taceus Thanks, I'm trying to be more reasonable and understanding. Specially about topics that I should never be angry about. Videogames are entretaintment after all. And, as a fan, discussing about videogames for me is something that I enjoy almost as much as playing them so I should have a good time doing that too. I can be a bit passive agresive sometimes but I assure you that the majority of time is just because I want to mess arround rather than me being mad. I've been mad in the past about videogames (...specially about Pokemon) but it's nothing personal, I swear. And I realize that there is no point.

Anyways, sometimes I also wish that I could beat a ton of games as fast as possible since I love messing arround in them, which translates on taking a lot of time to beat them... but I also got to the other extreme when, for the sake of wanting to finish a game, I ended up not enjoying them as much because I was forcing myself to play more in order to take them out of my backlog more than anything else. I honesly think that I ended up enjoying some videogames less due to that.

It's fine if you want to take your time sometimes too. And, yes, your backlog if you are a fan of games is probably going to be huge. Even if you don't collect much and even if you don't buy in sales, It happens. You buy a 100+ hour game then you take some time to beat it only for another game you're interested in to release before you finish it and in a couple of years you'll have a huge backlog to clear. Now that I'm going to have a gaming PC I can only imagine how big my backlog is going to be, specially with stuff like all those Epic Games free games that I also have just sitting there.

And I'm exactly the same with you when playing games. Even with games I enjoy, sometimes I just burn out after 3 hours of play. But that is also fine, you know? In average, that's what a lot of people spent daily with videogames: 1-2 hours, at most 3. There are sequences in games that I love that keep me glued to my seat sometimes, like chapter 5 of Xenoblade 3 or the ending secuence of Xenoblade 2 (can you tell I like that series?) but those are not the norm.

Also, there are a lot of people that enjoy more the act of collecting videogames than actually played them. Last year I got a kick out of that, going to the depths of the eShop to find a random Wii remastered game that noone thought about for years and then buying it on the spot or going to random websites online to find games from the consoles I grew up with that I know I could just emulate and I probably won't play for months (or years) but wanting to buy it anyway. So I'm guilty of that too.

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jowy_sw

jump

Taceus wrote:

jump has a point

jowe_gv wrote:

@jump Honestly, I think you're right.

QUOTED FOR TRUTH! ;P

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Nicolai wrote:

Alright, I gotta stop getting into arguments with jump. Someone remind me next time.

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Bolt_Strike

@jowe_gv I never said I don't like the other games, but I only like a handful of them and I've had far more to play in years when we have a new Mario, Zelda, etc.

Also, it's quite unusual to have droughts this long for IPs like Mario, Zelda, and Mario Kart, usually we see the next game after 3 or 4 years, not 5+. Not sure how you could've expected this, under normal circumstances we would've seen these games in 2020/2021, not still waiting for them in 2023.

Bolt_Strike

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jowy_sw

@Bolt_Strike Zelda Skyward Sword was released in november 2011 and Zelda BoTW was released in march 2017.
Zelda ToTK is going to be released in may 2023 (so far it seems at least) so the margin isn't THAT different than usual.

Mario is probably the outlier here. His games usually took less than Zelda to make and I'm still surprised Nintendo haven't made an "Odyssey 2" on Switch and then have a new 3D Mario game for the "Switch 2" launch period. If it was released like last year or something they could have done that and still have the two games separated with enough time. But each day that passes this is becoming less likely.

With Mario Kart... mario Kart 8 Deluxe still sells. That's probably the only reason why a new one wasn't released. To me it looks like Nintendo didn't expected 8 Deluxe to be THAT big but now that it is they don't want to cannibalize it's sales.

Also, again, plenty of games on the Swich aside from those. Like... Lots of them.

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jowy_sw

Bolt_Strike

@jowe_gv TotK is using the same graphical engine and depending on how the game is designed, probably a similar map to BotW. So you shouldn't expect TotK to take the same amount of time as BotW.

Cannibalizing MK8D's sales might be worth it if a new Mario Kart game could sell more than MK8D's continued sales continue to bring in. And Nintendo loves to come up with new ideas and they usually don't let sales get in the way of that so it's very unusual that they've suddenly reversed course on this (and I don't believe for one second they have no idea what the Switch could do to improve Mario Kart). But even if they didn't want to cannibalize sales, there were other ways they could provide new Mario Kart content besides the likes of the Booster Course pack, which is a lazy mobile port that honestly feels like a tossup to me whether or not it's better than nothing. They could've made a new Mario Kart game that's very different from the typical Mario Kart or a DLC pack that gives us a taste of what a next gen Mario Kart could look like (think Mario Kart's Legends Arceus or Bowser's Fury).

There are lots of other games, but recently most of them have been niche IPs that don't really appeal to a wide variety of gamers. And I've given some of them a try and don't really like them. Xenoblade, Bayonetta, Fire Emblem, Warriors games, I have already tried these types of experiences and they're not for me, but those are the types of experiences they want to lean on. None of them sell more than 3 million and appeal towards a specific type of gamer, so only a fraction of the Switch userbase is going to be happy with them while the other 100 million Switch owners are largely going to feel left out in the cold. I would like to see more broadly appealing games than those types of games but that hasn't happened yet so until they can grow new IPs of that caliber, people are going to be obsessing over those types of games.

Bolt_Strike

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jump

@Link-Hero yeah there’s the yoof plus the people I’m thinking of who have literally thousands of games which is a few users on here.

When that how many games have you got thread was started I counted mine up to realise I’ve got over a hundred games on the Switch. Even though most of those are smaller indie games and I was a day one buyer of the Switch I found it to be excessive for myself but luckily covid has blessed us with working from home being normalised so instead of losing an hour or two on the tube I instead gain an hour or two playing Splatoon instead.

Nicolai wrote:

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Tasuki

@Link-Hero I agree with everything you said, sadly that's how I end up with such a huge backlog. Work, and family take a big chunk of my time. Even when I get a day off from work there's other things I have to do errands and such. When I do get some free time to play a game it's not a whole lot of time that I can play a game and it just makes me not want to play a game. Don't get me wrong there are a ton of games that I want to play but the fact I just don't have time keeps me from playing them.

And there are so many games to like RPGs for example that I would love to play but I know I just wouldn't be able to finish them.

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Buizel

I can understand people not valuing third party games on Switch as they'd rather play elsewhere (PC, PS5, Xbox for the extra performance) but...it kinda works both ways. Personally I have all the systems this generation, but I barely touch PC, PS5 and Xbox because, if a game comes to Switch, I'm playing it there 95%+ of the time. But I don't claim that PC/PS/Xbox are boring because Switch is my preference...obviously I'm in quite a good position to be able to choose what console to play my games on, and the Switch is my overwhelming preference.

So...if you've, for example, got a Switch and PS5 and you're not playing much on Switch because you'd rather play multiplatforms on PS5...that's kinda on you. The third party games are there, you're just not playing them - and no matter how many release, that's not going to change the fact that PS5 is your preferred system for these games.

On the other hand, I can understand complaining about the the quantity/quality of exclusives. Personally, I think Nintendo continue to do great on this front, whereas Microsoft leave me wondering why I ever bought into their ecosytem in the first place.

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At least 2'8".

Bolt_Strike

@Buizel Well that depends on how well the Switch port runs. If it runs about the same as other consoles or at an acceptable performance level, you've got a point. But if the Switch version doesn't run well and it runs better on other consoles, than that's on Nintendo for not making the Switch competitive with other consoles.

Bolt_Strike

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jump

Touching on the topic above of da yoof have more energy for games, I can't say that I've found that for myself. However I have found I'm just not as willing to play anything compared to when I was a teen. Playing a game simply because it's the big AAA of the year, being a social media meme sensation, the latest indie darling or some JRPG being declared a must play for it's story isn't enough to motivate me anymore so I stick to the games that actually tickle my fancy whether it's franchises I know or something I've not tried before which just sounds interesting.

Or maybe I'm not as old as others on here and it will hit me soon?

Nicolai wrote:

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