Topic: Nintendo Switch 2

Just a quick question and a few concerns. I checked how much space I'm using on my Switch OLED, and upon doing some math, it looks like I'm using 269.5 GB across both the internal storage and the microSD card. The Switch 2's internal storage is 256 GB. When I get a Switch 2, would I need to have a microSD Express card on hand to transfer everything, or would it let me transfer most of my games without one?

I'm also a bit worried about the battery life indicator being messed up (that happened with my V1 Switch, but it did fix itself with a system update), the quality of the handheld screen (I heard it can be blurry), and how it can overheat. How bad are those issues? I just don't want to get a faulty unit, and maybe there are some other hardware related issues I should look out for. Thanks in advance!

@MarioVillager92 Games on switch sd card won't transfer, because they are encrypted to the console.

I only had rocket league on my oled internal storage, but I can't recall if it transferred with the system transfer, even though I think the instructions are a bit ambiguous as to whether games will transfer. I had to redownload all my games. And it was kind of annoying, because, by default, the transfer scheduled all the games download and switch 2 internal storage isn't large enough to fit all of them. And on top of that, I had to press the (+) button on every game tile on home screen, one by one, to open the game's menu & cancel their download. It was tedious for the 80-90 games I have.

The plus side of the system transfer is, it will transfer switch user profiles that don't have nintendo accounts, if you have any. I certainly had two or three extra switch users (that didn't have nintendo accounts) for extra playthroughs so I could replay the opening of Splatoon games, or throwaway starts of other games.

Switch 1 has it's own support page for fixing battery % display. I think that fix was running the battery down and fully charging for multiple cycles so the console can relearn the battery.

My switch 2 battery has been fine. I have battery saver toggled on, and while that says it will stop charging at 90%, it typically only charges to 83-85% - others have reported same thing and that seems to be accepted as normal.

Switch & switch 2 battery percentages can get out of whack after system updates. There is a support page for switch 2's "battery displays incorrectly", and one option fix is to enter recovery mode and navigate it's menu, and that is supposed to reset the battery display. https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a...

@MarioVillager92 It will try to redownload all your games and when you run out of space you will still have the icons but not downloaded. You can then archive a game and download a different game whenever you want. This all happened to me; wasn't too much of a nuisance.

Probably the later you buy your Switch 2 the better it will be. Most companies monitor returns and if there are issues with the early hardware will make improvements at the factory. Maybe there is a component that is problematic and will be replaced like the fan in the dock which has been reported to have a few issues. Probably around October and November we will see hardware improvements. Normally the time scale is 3-4 months between first release hardware and a improved model. It's a bit like a car, if you buy a new model just launched there are lots of issues but if you buy the final product off the production line it has had years of manufacturing improvements.

Wow, people weren't lying about the Switch 2 Pro Controller. This thing feels amazing. It melts into your hands. The sticks are firm so you can feel which direction you're going but kinda just float. And the buttons have a clicky kinda tactile feel but are somehow also super quiet and dampening

Yeah, I can see why people are saying this is the best controller they have. I preferred the XBOne controller over the Switch Pro but this one is another level. Very nice

@skywake Every time I think of the Switch 2 Pro Controller, I think of how Austin John Plays screwed up his thumb because of it.

@skywake
Yea, the biggest thing for me is how quality the sticks feel. The buttons are nice and chunky without feeling like The Duke’s from back in the day (first Xbox controller, for the youngins around here). I do think it’s a fraction too small overall in my hands, but otherwise it’s probably my favorite traditional controller of… all time!? Crazy to say lol

iFixit's video for repairability for pro con 2. Oof. As one who's had at least 3, if not 4, drifting pro controllers, this doesn't help my relations with nintendo.

Yeah, corporations love that potentiometer tech in their controllers.

Planned obsolescence.

Even the $200 Playstation Dualsense Edge uses this garbage.

@WoomyNNYes
Honestly, watching the video other than the adhesive on the faceplate I'm not entirely sure what the big complaint is here. Once you're past that point it's all screws and modular components. The original Pro Controller required you to de-solder the sticks while here it's just a little JST connector. Again, obviously, adhesive sucks but other than that? Seems like a step forward

But yeah, again, I can't understate how amazing this controller is

I mean, I'm sure we'd all appreciate a controller like the Sixaxis that you could actually bend.

But at least it didn't have screws holding it together and making it sturdy just in case you needed to get to it's battery.

Either it's easy to repair and shoddily made, or hard to repair and well built. Can't win.

The Pro Controller 2 definitely has a nice feel to it, but I find it too small for my liking. Funnily the opposite of my issue with the Switch 2 itself, and my issue with the Dualsense.

Wondering if anything will ever beat the original Pro Controller for me. Xbox controller is pretty great as well.

The Switch 2 controller is indeed a bit smaller. The RetroFighters Brawler64 controller has the best profile of any controller I've found yet, and now I can't help but compare everything else to it.

The Nintendo Switch 2 has a younger audience so this makes sense. I remember growing up thinking the Gamecube controller was the most comfortable thing on the planet, now it feels child-sized. Perhaps for added consistency, the new larger Joycons and smaller Pro Controller are approaching the same scale by meeting in the middle.

The new material of the Switch 2 controller is an additional plus, it feels cool and soft compared to the greasy plastic of the original Switch.

DK Bananza will give us a good idea about how Nintendo are handling reviews going forward. If there's reviews pre-launch then we know Switch 2 launch was an exception as a result of stuff like the console day 1 patch but if there aren't reviews pre-launch then it seems the Switch 2 launch was setting a new norm.

@Grumblevolcano I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure Bananza reviews will come out Wednesday.

The later it is the better in my opinion, I don’t want too many leaks and spoilers out in the wild!

Figured with all the negative nancys running around it was worth throwing this video up in here. Because it both shows what the Switch 2 is achieving fairly clearly but also where it sits against its closest competitor, at least on cost and usage

The TL:DR of it? Switch 2, as I've been saying since pre-launch, has a wider GPU but a slower CPU. So when GPU constrained it's going to outperform Steam Deck. And here it outperforms Steam Deck in most of these scenarios. Like for like settings it beats Steam Deck both docked and portable. And when you scale down power consumption on deck to match what Switch 2 is doing in portable mode it's a complete wipeout

The only mode Steam Deck wins in, just slightly, is when you run Steam Deck at its native resolution rather than attempting an upscaled 1080p output and compare it to Switch in portable mode. You get a few extra frames. But you get a few extra frames at ~25W rather than the ~9W of Switch 2. What that means is that, effectively, Switch 2 will be able to achieve a slightly better battery life than Steam Deck OLED at this level of performance. Despite the battery being less than half the size

Also worth noting is how much better DLSS looks over FSR. I personally don't really bother with FSR on Steam Deck, there's no value to it. Also I don't usually play games that hammer it as hard as this generally because again, not really what the platform is good at. But on Switch 2? That output isn't bad. Especially in docked mode where you can give it a bit more power

Obviously Steam Deck still wins with the better screen on the OLED, the greater flexibility in use and theoretically better battery life in titles that aren't redlining the console. But overall, Switch 2 wins out here. At least on this game

Some more observations RE the Pro Controller now I've had a bit of use out of it

On size, shape and feel. It is very slightly smaller than I would like. I do still prefer the size and shape of my XBox Series controller. Although the texture, feel and weight of the Switch 2 Pro Controller is still the best I can remember in a controller. Even swapping between other controllers I have lying around (N64, Wii U, GC, SNES, generic third party controllers) I prefer this. I don't have any PS controllers to compare with, I've never been into PS, but I would say this wins over PS because I've also never liked Sony's controllers

With that said, the two top stick layout of the Wii U is still superior. The Wii U Pro Controller just is an instant DQ for that horrible glossy plastic and also the way the sticks seem to rapidly turn to goo

On the D-Pad? What I will say is that with the Switch Pro Controller I ended up modifying so it would not register false inputs in Tetris. Also I don't really like split D-Pads although I would take a split D-Pad over what Microsoft offers. After playing around of Tetris 99? It's good. No false inputs and it's comfortable to use. Is it the best D-Pad I've ever used? Not sure. But nothing immediately comes to mind that I would take over this one if given the option. What I mean by that is that if there was an option for a version of the Switch 2 Pro Controller but with a SNES D-Pad for $10 more.... I'd pocket the $10

@skywake How do the buttons feel? Ever since that Austin John Plays video, I've been apprehensive about purchasing a Switch 2 Pro controller due to how the placement of the buttons injured his thumb to a point where he couldn't use it for a week or so. I play games pretty often- for a good few hours straight, so it seems like it's not going to be great for me. I don't really know.

@VoidofLight
If you watch the video it's the placement of the right stick not the buttons that caused him issues. Again, this is why I think the Wii U stick layout is superior. As for whether the controller will cause injury? I guess that depends on your hand shape, how often you play games, what games you play and whether you take breaks or not

I can't really speak to how the controller goes for long term use given I only got it yesterday. Especially given of the three games I've tried with it (Tetris 99, Mario Kart World, Tears of the Kingdom) only one uses the "problematic" second stick. The fact I haven't had issues yet doesn't really say much. Hard for me to tell whether or not it's worse in this regard

But again, there's a reason why I think the Wii U layout was better, that kind of strain can't occur on that controller. It's also just generally a more comfortable position for your hand to be in. It's also why the Playstation layout is just awful IMO. It's really a bit of a shame that people are somehow against the "both sticks up top" layout and that we've landed on this sub-optimal standard layout. Unless you're Valve, apparently

@WoomyNNYes Thanks for your input. You had to redownload all your games huh? I recall doing that when transferring to the Switch OLED. I needed to redownload the updates for my physical games as well. I only have the one Switch profile, which has my Nintendo account linked. It sounds like that would transfer over, alongside my eShop purchase log and I'd assume my save data. That might be good for me in a way, because of how expensive microSD Express cards can be and I could download my remaining games at a later time.

Yes I did see that they have a whole page on the battery display issue. But I'm afraid of having to deal with this long, tedious process of having the battery drain on its own while being on the home menu (the link you've provided doesn't mention that though). I did see that there's that battery saver feature where it'd stop charging at about 90%, and I do intend to use it. Glad to hear there's no problems in that regard.

@FishyS Gotcha, as I mentioned to WoomyNNYes, that might be good for me in a way. MicroSD Express cards can be pretty expensive, plus I could see myself keeping my Switch OLED just in case.

@BonzoBanana All right, I was thinking that would be the case as well... maybe by then, there would be a Mario edition Switch 2. I'd love to have such a thing since I'm huge into Mario.