Topic: Is The Switch 2 Worth It???

The topic isn’t about sales numbers. That doesn’t affect an individual’s feelings towards whether a device is worth it or not, unless all they’re after is chasing trends and popularity.

@OmnitronVariant
I think Switch 2 get popular from chasing trends and popularity, you know Monkey See Monkey do, not Monkey think Monkey Decide yes or not.

@OmnitronVariant False, what it does is tell us the likelihood that an individual might be interested in that game. For example, it's far more likely that a Switch owner is going to be one of the 69.56 million people that owned Mario Kart 8 Deluxe than one of the 1.09 million people that owned Metroid Prime Remastered. Sales gives us a more macroeconomic view of the question by showing us what the whole fanbase prefers. Now is that a 1:1 correlation for each individual? Of course not. There is most likely at least one gaming preference that differs from the popular opinions and trends (high selling games that an individual likes, low selling games that an individual likes). But looking at popularity and trends can give us insight into how the fanbase collectively is answering this question and what Nintendo can do to change the narrative.

So I keep telling people. But that hasn't stopped people using sales figures as a bat to beat it with in this thread when it suits. Including yourself, on multiple occasions. Literally your entire bit is that it's horrible but you're forced to keep buying stuff for it because, woe is you, you can't find a buyer for it because it's so unpopular

@rallydefault

Quite the trick having a 14 year old account!

@FishyS
lol indeed!

I've looked at the VGChartz figures for December which admittedly are mainly estimates but they tend to be within 10% of real figures, mostly within 5% I think. US market had the Switch 2 beating PS5 in December by 40,000 units approx and I thought it was expected to be more than this but it is a decent number but the PS5 is selling fantastic numbers for a system with already have a high level of saturation in the market. Obviously in Europe Switch 2 numbers are not great and getting towards half that of PS5 numbers but then Switch 2 is priced highest in Europe. However it is expected 2026 will be a very bad year for technology sales especially games consoles because of the hyper inflation in RAM and NAND chips so price increases are coming for all consoles probably. This is a crucial year for Nintendo to build it's userbase and they have been given a real challenge. It's funny how people interpret the sales figures, some say a huge success for Switch 2 and others say way below expected sales based on a comparison with the original Switch launch numbers.

What I find most interesting is in all three major markets the Switch 1 in December sold around 200,000 units give or take. Even though the markets are all very different, USA 350 million, Europe 750 million and Japan 120 million it all filtered down to similar figures.

I think it was a poor decision to price so highly for launch in Europe, they could have sold more at a fairer price and built a better foundation in Europe and with prices likely to increase the adoption rate will slow even more. Normally Europe buys more Switch units than Japan but if it continues the way its going Europe will have sold significantly less Switch 2 consoles than Japan this generation. If Nintendo increases prices in Europe for Switch 2 this year sales could collapse too if they continue to want a much higher margin in Europe. You aren't going to get casual gamers if the price is close to £500/550 euros or even over that. The games are super expensive too in comparison. Also to achieve those figures in Europe there has been widespread discounting of 5-15% which means it is not a must have item. Many retailers have a lot more stock than they were expecting. Demand well below expectations.

So yes I feel the whole market is a bit negative and Nintendo may have a very bad year selling the Switch 2 so Nintendo will have to absorb these component increases and financially see a huge drop in margin and profits or price high and see the sales figures collapse. What else can they do? There are rumours of a early Switch 2 Lite model and I guess this could be their thinking. Get a model out in the market to appeal to casual gamers. Surely a OLED model is off the table now for a long time, they aren't going to want to produce a console that is even more expensive.

My fear in regards to sales numbers is just that we'll continue to see "cross-gen" games that don't fully utilise the Switch 2's hardware. Not inherently bad of course; many games will be fine like that. But I really hope Nintendo dares to make the next mainline Zelda and/or Mario S2 exclusive to really show us what it can do.

dude. Just because we choose something you clearly do not like, dont assume we are sheep. Its quite insulting and you are not the wisdom of all things

@OmnitronVariant
I actually agree with this (wow) and have been saying: the time for cross-gen is over. The big stuff from here on out should be Switch 2 exclusive.

We still have Tomodachi and Rhythm Heaven for Switch 1 this year, but let that be the end of the “big” stuff. Focus on your new machine now.

@rallydefault
Why not both? I think there's plenty of space for games that don't push the hardware and as long as the Switch 2 gets a resolution bump that's fine. But they can do that while still pushing the hardware in other titles

As an example, if they were to make another heavily artistic but inherently 2D game along the lines of a Woolly World or Wario Land? I wouldn't be opposed to that also landing on the Switch. As long as there's a higher resolution mode on Switch 2. Same deal if they had been releasing those TTYD or Super Mario RPG remakes this year

But obviously, that doesn't mean we can't have games that push the hardware further. Basically I don't expect the next new 3D Zelda to be playable on Switch, for example. But I wouldn't be at all opposed to something like Twilight Princess HD being cross-gen. And I don't think anyone really benefits from those kinds of games being Switch 2 exclusives

Obviously development doesn't work quite like this. There would be overheads supporting both. And eventually Switch will stop being supported even when Switch 2 exclusivity doesn't make that much sense. But for the Rhythm Heaven and 2D Yoshi games? I don't see what we gain from it. Other than bullet points for forum discussions such as this

@skywake
I don’t view it as a “pushing the tech” thing; I view it as a “why the heck do I need the new console?” thing.

Like I said, Switch 1 is still gonna get those two “big” first-party games this year. That’s awesome. And I agree: if the rumored HD Zelda pack comes out, that would be a cross-gen kind of thing.

But otherwise, it’s time to move on if your future is Switch 2. Don’t drag this out. Third parties will be releasing stuff on the original Switch until my daughter is in high school (she’s 7 lol) - but Nintendo themselves need to focus up on the path forward.