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PoliticallyIncorrect

@VoidofLight it's almost like Disney is trying to destroy the IP. Star Wars was great before Disney. Now all they care about is identity politics and such. I miss the days when movies were for entertainment, not for pushing political agendas.

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VoidofLight

@jump I actually hate JarJar with a burning passion. I mostly just don't like the sequels because they break the lore, and retell the story that's already told, but with characters who aren't actually interesting. They also bring back a villain just to kill him again, undermining the original trilogy.

Not to mention all the plot threads set up in the first movie, which ultimately lead to no-where, showing that Disney had no plan beforehand, and just let the directors make it up as they went.

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ToadBrigade

@RR529 Yeah, the first couple seasons of Clone Wars aren’t exactly great. Season 3 is where things start really getting good, IMO. After that, each season gets consistently better than the last (though season 6 doesn’t feel as complete for obvious reasons) culminating in the final four episodes of the series, some of the best Star Wars ever created. It’s worth getting through some of those early episodes that aren’t so good for that payoff in the end. But you can definitely skip the droid arc in season 5. That garbage is one of the worst things to come out of the franchise, and that’s saying a lot. That’s the only one that I would seriously recommend skipping though (others aren’t great, but none are as actively bad as that one arc).

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RR529

While I can understand being disappointed in certain decisions Disney has made in regards to the sequels being messy & their retconning of a lot of extra lore built up though older books, comics, games, etc., as well as the EA game exclusivity, I don't think it's been all bad.

Rouge One was good, and from what I hear Solo isn't too bad either (though I haven't watched it myself yet), the Mandalorian is great & they made a fan pleasing move in finishing out the Clone Wars series. Plus, they're starting to open up more of the classic content & are letting more companies make games again.

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jump

Really Disney should have just made them an animated cartoon like the rest of the fairy tales they make, it would have also mean people would stop taking them so seriously. It’s just a story about a farm boy would wants to grow up to be a space wizard to defeat the dark knight with the help of a princess and some woodland critters a talking bear and a talking frog, it’s hardly The Godfarther or Fight Club.

At least their knock off war and samurai/western ones were great. I’d go out of my way to watch The Mandalorian and Rogue One.

I may or may not be trolling with my comments ;p

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SeaFishelle

Okay real talk: I love TLJ. I'm meh on TRoS, and I hated Solo.

Now that that's out of the way: LET'S GO MANDO

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Gerald

Just noticed Caravan Of Courage has appeared on the Disney Channel. Have not seen that for many years.
Will it be better than Episode 8 if I watched it now 😂

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Zeldafan79

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I loved TLJ too! I know that's a really unpopular opinion but i never understood the hate. Were people expecting Luke to be the same guy from 30 years ago? You know all plucky and eager to go fight to save the galaxy? Come on Rey let‘s go do Jedi stuff and fight those bad guys! After all I’m Luke freakin skywalker! LOL What a predictable and boring plot that Would have been.

As for Solo its my least favourite. It‘s not a bad movie and the guy playing Han did fine it's just an unnecessary movie. Alot of it is information we didn't really need and the only real highlight is the kessel run. Rogue one rocked though! Sooooo good!

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RR529

@Zeldafan79, I don't think people necessarily minded the fact Luke was a mentor figure past his prime, but rather the idea that this all started after he feared the mere potential development of the dark side in his nephew so much that he briefly considered killing him, even though his dad was the right hand man of "space Hitler™" and was still able to see the good in him.

It's not a really a big deal to me personally as while I liked the films well enough as a kid I never grew too attached to them, but I could understand why some would think it was too much of a leap in his characterization.

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jump

People were digusted with the identity politics of it too, how dare they recognize wookies as people, I don't care that the dog-bear is a war hero, medals belong to people not pets. It's why he didn't get one in the 70s and still shouldn't today! The space Nazi's are right to treat the race of Cousin Its like that! ;p

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PoliticallyIncorrect

Identity politics are a cancer. I'm retired now but made most of my living playing music professionally. I'm waiting for the day the liberals start attacking bands. Telling them their lineup isn't diverse enough. As cultish as they are, it's more than likely coming.

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Balta666

Unpopular SW opinion incoming:

Jar jar Binks is a great addition to the series
Episode 1 is fantastic (top5 overall) and episode 4 one of the weakest.

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Zeldafan79

@Balta666
My girlfriend loves Jar jar! In fact it's the only star wars movie i could get her to sit through without constantly asking me is this almost over? Is this almost over? I guess the funny moments with him keeps the movie entertaining to those who don't live and breathe star wars.

Now as for episode IV you gotta give it credit for making the series exist in the first place but as a movie it's pretty generic. Plus it's got the shortest most boring lightsaber duel in the saga.

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jump

@Zeldafan79 I agree about the lightsaber fight. I mentioned it a couple of pages back and kicked off with people telling me it's good for the time, they were old people what do you expect, at least it's not cgi etc. It's this weird walking poke bit that makes me laugh.

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Maybe it's because this was made way before I was born but by the time I saw Star Wars I had already seen stuff like Indiana Jones (I love Indy, it's the best thing Lucas ever did imo) so my idea of action was of a higher standard than what Star Wars was doing.

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Balta666

@Zeldafan79 well on episode IV I said is one the weakest not that it is a a bad movie (I love star wars).
In terms of order I put it as 5 - 3.5 - 6 - 1 - 3 - 4 - 7 - 9 - 2 - 8

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SeaFishelle

Oh, we're doing rankings?

BEST to WORST:
5 > 3 > 8 > R1 > 7 > 6 > 4 > 1 > 9 > 2 > Solo.

Solo is the only one I actively dislike, the rest are great in their own ways. (Yes, even TRoS; the entire first half of that thing is one hell of a joyride.)

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SeaFishelle

@Zeldafan79 I really love the "thinky" stuff, I think it comes from me being more of a Trek fan than a Wars one. Like I find it hard to enjoy The Clone Wars because of the ridiculous amount of action, so much of which is dramatically pointless. Don't get me wrong; when it's NOT dramatically pointless, it's great. But I need that context, I guess.

But that's part of why I love TLJ so much; it's a deconstruction and analysis of the Star Wars galaxy. It's Luke re-evaluating the Jedi and the Force as a whole, it's the good guys learning about the goods and bads of war from perspectives other than themselves, it's a dashing hero being taken down a peg and being forced to learn what a "hero" really is. It's FAR from perfect, but so is the rest of Star Wars honestly. I'm not here for perfection, I'm here for Star Wars.

As for Solo being "unnecessary" though, I don't like to look at things that way. I hate seeing potentially great story ideas go to the concept graveyard just because "they're unnecessary". Some great tales have come out of spinoffs, hell look at The Clone Wars. That's pretty unnecessary, did we really need to see what happened between 20 and 19 BBY? Or the prequels as a whole, we didn't need 3 movies to show us Darth Vader's origin story. But we got them, and many people love them. If Solo was done properly, I'd probably have loved it a lot more. But it wasn't, it was designed by marketing and not by an artist. The only DSW movie I can honestly say that about (aside from TRoS I suppose).

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Zeldafan79

Hey do any of you guys wonder why the mandalorian isn't on DVD yet? I mean not officially. I had to resort to bootlegs off ebay but for real that show needs to be on some form of home media. I know DVD's aren't cool anymore but what if you wanna show it to a friend who doesn't have Disney plus?

Somebody get on that!

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