Wow, I had no idea there was a new Addams Family movie. I did a quick Google search to see who was playing Morticia, and was way too excited when I saw it was Charlize Theron. Then I realized it’s animated. Looks good though, and animation is probably the way to go for the Addams Family in 2019.
@NotTelevision - My friend had that Counting Crows album, and the one after. We listened to it quite a bit, but it’s not something I could listen to today. If I remember right, it was sad/depressed all the way through. Most sad bands throw at least one pick up track on an album, but not on that one. It’s like driving through a heavy rain all the way through. It worked for me at that age though as I was sad or mad all the time about everything.
@Tyranexx Well, I obviously don't have to tell you that there's still a world, or rather: an ocean of tastes and varieties of music in between heavy rock and pop, and outside of those. Personally, I'm one of those "good music is good music, period" kinda people, so I like ALL kinds of music, because each and every kind has its good or great songs, so my tastes range from classical music to reggae, from metal to pop from country to grunge, and probably anything in between, you name it.
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Pretty decent song list you got there. And perhaps you've already heard about them or even know them, but if you're interested in trying out some more metal/rock inspired flavors, I'd suggest giving Within Temptation (songs: Ice Queen, Angels, What Have You Done) and Nightwish (songs: Nemo, Élan, Sleeping Sun) a listen. They both make pretty decent video clips as well, in my opinion.
Within Temptation is an all-Dutch band, and they perform all over the world. Nightwish is a Finnish band, but they currently have a Dutch lead singer, and they too perform all over the world. The amount of records/cd's/albums these bands sell and the amounts of streams is insane, but you'll hardly ever hear them on mainstream media.
@NEStalgia And what exactly is wrong with Evanescence? Great music, great songs, great lyrics and a VERY talented lead singer, so perfectly fine by me.
@StableInvadeel There's a NEW Addam's Family movie?
Where the heck was the news for that?
@ThanosReXXX
" I like ALL kinds of music, because each and every kind has its good or great songs, so my tastes range from classical music to reggae, from metal to pop from country to grunge, and probably anything in between, you name it."
Really ?
But you don't like Eurodance songs like from E-ROTIC or Captain Jack or Me & My or 2 Unlimited... 😛
@bimmy-lee Haha. Yeah. I haven’t heard their music in probably over 10 years. I remember “Round Here” really capturing the feeling bored adolescents have growing up in a small town. The second album has songs with similar themes. Goo Goo Dolls also have a pretty depressing first record from what I remember.
Popular alternative bands in the early 90s were either influenced by the “jangle pop” of R.E.M. or the disheveled but “heart-on-your-sleeve” sound of Paul Westerberg and The Replacements. I’d just rather listen to either of these bands now.
Ah, I overlooked @bimmy-lee saying it's an animated movie. That's just not the same. In a flash I saw him mentioning Charlize Theron, and I probably experienced the same feeling as he did, going from high excitement to a kind of meh feeling. Might still be entertaining, but it'll never reach the same level as the two live action movies, so color me disappointed.
@Anti-Matter Oh, boy. I should have seen that coming. If and when you decide to respond to any of my comments, my friend, PLEASE do me the favor of ACTUALLY reading them and understanding what they say and DON'T take things out of context by ripping parts of sentences out of them, which might give them another meaning altogether.
I quote: "Personally, I'm one of those "good music is good music, period" kinda people, so I like ALL kinds of music, because each and every kind has its good or great songs"
That last bit is the important part. I don't like most of the Euro-trash songs you've posted, because I think they're silly and childish, with dumb, infantile sexual titles and lyrics. 2 Unlimited is fine, though. And they're Dutch, so I've known them for a long time already, and like @BruceCM, I also like Snap and some similar artists/groups, but most of the music of that particular kind is highly disposable and forgettable, in my opinion.
But like I originally said, ALL kinds of music has some good songs, so that's why I said that I like ALL kinds of music. And I have to emphasize that I said all KINDS of music, not ALL music, meaning that I more than likely will like a couple of songs, or multiple songs of any type of music that exists, but I most certainly don't like ALL songs of all types of music, because much like how each and every kind of music has its good or great songs, they also each have their bad or downright lousy songs.
Do you understand now? Fine, then we can give it a rest already...
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Japanese peoples really like EuroDance or Bubble gum songs. And there are some Eurobeat remixes from those songs, sounds very catchy, cheesy but enjoy to listen.
Like these songs. 😘
I really like those kind of songs, EuroDance or Bubble gum genre. 😀
Don't forget Odoru Pompokolin (English version) by Captain Jack. 😆
Yeah, I probably have some good memories associated with plenty of even bad Eurodance, @ThanosReXXX That tends to help make it more enjoyable.... I don't mind silly, dumb lyrics, sometimes, either
Not sure I immediately remember some of the ones Anti is talking about but he's welcome to like anything, anyway
@Tyranexx Nickelback? And you admit this, freely on the internet? You could have just stated strong opinions on Pokemon SnS instead. It would have been way less controversial......
Wow, hearing all those names takes me back. Though I still think of that as "the new stuff." I don't even know what's actually new. I'm pretty sure they stopped producing music in the US around 2005. I just switched to Asia and stopped paying attention after that.
@Anti-Matter The biggest turn-off of Eurodance, I swear, is the horrendous naming that makes the whole thing sound like a bunch of drunken high school kids are behind it, thinking their terrible sense of humor is actually genius. "Captain Jack"? Really? Someone was hitting way too much of the Captain Morgan's to realize how terrible that choice is.
That said I actually do like a fair bit of electronica....but electronica and "Eurodance" are not necessarily related...
@ThanosReXXX though it's hilarious to hear the resident flying Dutchman slam "Eurotrash"
BTW, I forgot to mention the other day that what we were talking about ages ago with "fresh food" is connected with the whole endless residential construction here, and you'd mentioned they keep building farms and factories, and that that's destroying nature too. While I do agree...that's the last thing I thought I'd hear anywhere in crowded Europe. NEW farms?!?!?! They haven't built a new farm in the US in 100 years. It's the inverse. Almost reinforces that windmill stereotype They build some factories mostly in the South, but pretty much nothing in the North. Farms....particularly talking about the East and Northeast overall, are a withering thing. The only ones there are the centuries old ones that still have someone able to hold onto them. But they long ago decided farms are not the most profitable use of land, high density is. They actively WANT them gone so they can get the land into the financial real estate investment system - the bank wants that land at any cost for maximized development. So they manipulate things by raising taxes higher and higher until the farms need to sell, and/or the big national builders come in and offer 2-3x the value of the land because it's peanuts for them, and they can make the cost back in 2 years of luxury rentals. And when they do, one of the 5 national construction companies is standing ready with a backhoe and a checkbook....it's instantly turned into the sprawling housing complexes, high rise apartments, or "mixed use" office/medical/residential/retail (which generally means restaurants and phone stores with a CVS.) The farming area was originally designed to grow the food for the major city within it. Now it's nearly all developed into more slightly-less dense city, with the few straggling farms guaranteed to go within the next decade or two (and be replaced with hundreds more luxury homes or office buildings for global corporations nobody's ever heard of, and I have no idea what any of them do. Probably finance and data harvesting.)
But the result is they've designated a good third of the country or so as nothing but dense residence/office, and no food growing (except for handfuls of hipster farms selling food for 2-3x normal costs for the kinds of vegan hipsters living in those lux high rises.) The thinking is all food can be grown in the big corporate farms of the midwest, and the rest (or majority) can be imported from S. America. So Chile is really your "local farms" here. If you're LUCKY you get fresher food shipped in freezers from Utah. The idea of food that wasn't frozen and didn't spend weeks in transit/trucks/warehouses is literally impossible. I daresay a BigMac has more nutrients than the wax polished "fresh produce" in the supermarkets. And it will never be possible once again, because once everything is high density housing, that's all that will be there until the end of time. And if some dark time ever happens that we can't import the majority of the food across the hemisphere.....the whole region really will be a zombie apocalypse IRL. There will literally be nothing left to eat except each other. It's a building model based around the idea that agriculture can be done in the third world, and the third world exists for supplying the superior people that work proper civilized office jobs. Managing real estate values....
It also occurred to me what these new hipster luxury blocks and "mixed use" centers are. It's a miniaturized version of Walt Disney's "corporate city" - like Epcot's original design, or Buena Vista. It's a simulation of an actual city, on a small scale, for an upper class, when you're really living on a corporate owned and curated sub-reality.
BTW, does Europe in general have the same issue with sprawling medical EVERYWHERE? Here, anywhere you look, if it's not housing or an office, it's another 180,000sq foot medical complex. Not a hospital. They don't build new hospitals. It's all just medical complexes....which is not a hospital. Or another lab. I have no idea who consumes all this medicine and why 20 years ago nobody seemed to?
@NotTelevision - Both “Round Here” and “Omaha” really nailed the rural, small town vibe. Those songs are the main reason I listened to that album. I grew up in a town with one four way stop. No traffic lights, no fast food, just a couple pubs and churches. The boredom led to hijinks.
@ThanosReXXX - I’ll always be excited for a new, non animated version of Morticia. She, and her B movie knockoff, Elvira Mistress of the Dark, were some of my early loves. And Cheetara from Thunder Cats, but we don’t need to get into that one. It’s pretty weird.
@NEStalgia - Dude, are you 100% sure you live in the US, or in our shared reality? If where I lived was even a fraction of what you describe, I would... move away.
@NEStalgia
Captain Jack songs are really catchy and awesome on Dance Dance Revolution games. Let's say In the Navy '99 (XXL disaster Remix), Captain Jack (Grandale Remix), Together Forever, Little Boy (Boy Oh Boy Mix), Drill Instructor, Centerfold. 😘
Oh, there are a lot of sexy babes on Captain Jack songs. 😆
Here are some Captain Jack songs.
@Anti-Matter What Japanese people like? But you're not Japanese now, are you? So, that makes no sense whatsoever. And besides: much like with Western/European music, there's SO many flavors in Japanese music too, so you're also generalizing. Not ALL Japanese people like EuroDance or Bubble gum music. And over the years, I've found some pretty amazing and beautiful songs and music in anime, for example, so there's something for everyone there as well.
As for the videos: well, as I've said multiple times before, it's perfectly fine that YOU like those songs and that you think that this kind of music is great or enjoyable, but that doesn't mean that WE have to. The world doesn't exist of people all liking the same stuff, and that's more than okay. Variety is the spice of life, my friend.
And you don't have to convince other people of your tastes either, or try to persuade them to like your music, because if they don't, like I do, then they probably never will, so just allow people to have their own tastes, but above all: keep enjoying what you like, as long as you don't try to push it onto others, which is never okay.
(edit: that's also why I almost never post videos of it. I give the names of the band and songs, so if people are curious, they can look it up for themselves, instead of me spamming the thread with possibly unwanted videos)
By the way: I've listened to all of the videos, to give them a fair chance, and I can honestly say that I don't like a single one. I can imagine they all fit perfectly with DDR games, but they're not very easy on the ears in my opinion, so nice to listen to: no. Nice to play DDR with: probably yes. Slow songs wouldn't be much good in a dance game, but I also like my slow and beautiful songs to listen to, every now and then. Again: it's all about variety. Different types of music for different moods and/or different times of the day.
@BruceCM Oh, I agree. But the key word here is sometimes, and in my case also only some songs. That's something he will probably never understand, because it seems to be the only genre he likes.
I still find that kind of music highly disposable. It's music's version of a snack bar or a burger & fries place:
it can most definitely be enjoyable, but it's simple, has little to no variety in flavors, and is highly disposable.
I like to get lost in my music. It needs to illicit emotions, hefty responses, and it needs to be able to carry you away when you need it to, or just allow you to dream away, so let's just say a five course meal with a lot of variety in tastes and textures, instead of the previously mentioned (and often re-heated) fast food...
That's why we also need beautiful, slow songs and ballads, instead of just pumping beats and high or up tempo music all the damn time. I wouldn't be able to feel any kind of intense emotion with Euro beat or dance, other than either being annoyed or "hyper, hyper!", like the songs would probably want you to. But you can't jump, scream and dance around all the time. Nor would I want to, at my age...
I like to be able to sit, relax and enjoy and fully experience my music, and also have it containing some intelligence in lyrics and build-up of instruments and vocals. Euro-trash and dance is and has none of that. That's just pure, mind-numbing stomping beats and pumping adrenaline for the people that enjoy it.
Funny thing about it all is that I simply (and only) wanted to respond to @Tyranexx and pop goes the weasel, and suddenly I'm once again in an unwanted discussion with Anti about why I don't like (most) Euro-dance trash...
@ThanosReXXX
I am Indonesian people, but raised by Japanese influence from video games, anime when i was teen (early 2000) and i grew up with European songs that really hits on Japan. You know, some Asian people are easily to like Japanese stuffs. 😏
If you don't know, Japan has DanceMania, a compilation Eurodance songs that selected by Toshiba EMI. There are some speedy remixes on those compilation (It called Dancemania Speed). At the same time, Japan have Super Eurobeat compilation by Avex Trax which the Eurobeat songs used by mostly on Racing games such as Initial D, Midnite Tune, etc.
Even Vengaboys (Dutch Eurodance band) song were really popular on Japan and there was a song called Kiss (When the Sun Don't Shine) with videoclip showing about Tokyo and Akihabara.
I didn't mean to force someone to like my preferences, i just want to share something you don't know yet. 😞
Oh, btw. Slow and beautiful songs on DDR ?
Check this out.
Sorry, didn't mean to force my preferences to you. 😣
Just want to share something here.
@NEStalgia Well, seeing as I'm not 100% pure Dutch, but actually a Dutchified Californian, it isn't as strange as it might seem at first glance. And besides that, I've got a broad and rather demanding taste for music, nothing which any of that disposable Euro-trash could ever hope to satisfy. Not exclusively, but preferably only cultured music for the cultured, learned people, my friend...
On the building new farms bit: I wasn't talking about over here. I was talking worldwide, and mostly about essential jungle areas being deforested because "we wants our lovely palm oil products"...
And no, we don't have the same problem with "sprawling medical everywhere". Well, at least not in the Netherlands. Obviously can't speak for other European countries. Of course, there's always been the specialized clinics and such, and plastic surgery agencies, but other than that, no such thing as you described.
@bimmy-lee Heh. Well I suppose it's somewhat reassuring that the whole country isn't my prison here. Slightly.
This is what happens when millions of New Yorkers decide to descend upon your area and convert the whole thing into New Long Island. IIRC they did the same to Texas and LA, now Denver, so it's not just an East coast problem. Long Island. One of the most expensive places in the US, where all the hedge fund managers live, and the whole thing looks like a giant crumbling ghetto while costing $600 per square foot!. Now I can live the magic!
But, yeah...just imagine...as far as the eye can see...nothing but upscale housing, endless yuppies, and office/medical buildings and little else other than the same exact strip shopping center with the same 10 chain restaurants/Starbucks (with of course the old normal suburban neighborhoods interspersed.) On roads that were already crowded. Always new construction wherever there was a tree...but never anything you can use. They did "fix the traffic" in the worst areas by converting the roads to 6 lane highways. But they didn't actually widen the roads...they can't...they just drew the lanes really narrow and removed the shoulders and medians entirely and called it better.
Activating rjejr mode (because it's New New York, and we all hate our existences...):
The fun new ones they're building that I told Thanos about last week, the high rise lux stuff, includes built-in yoga classes, fitness facility, a "lifestyle center" (WTF even is that??), dog daycare, a dog park...... It has a built in Amazon locker even though they actually live in the parking lot of the shopping center that has the few actual normal stores. But that's too inconvenient so they just buy from Amazon and have it delivered into their common room. Then they use the fitness center instead of just walking 200 steps to Gap. Which reminds me, the new thing opening everywhere? Dog treat bakeries. We have no human bakeries. Supermarket bakeries that charge $20 for a 6" cake that somehow never grows mold or gets stale even if you leave it on a table for 3 months is good enough for that. But there's half a dozen places to buy your prize winning toy poodle fresh out of the oven baked treats. They replaced the Paylesses and Radio Shacks that used to be there. So we still have convenient access to retail, you see.....
It's quite literally an invading foreign culture. Albeit, hipster culture. I'd rather it were invading Chinese. I can at least adapt to their culture better. Part of me considers that the Chinese are my new friends and allies and I may actually be an avid supporter of Beijing and it's expansion. I was tempted to move all my shopping to Ali Express. Just because. Support our future better rulers and all that. But then I realized the majority shareholders in all the land development companies causing the problem are probably Beijing.....
As for moving....that's also too expensive. Sure property values rise thanks to all the high end luxury, but then you have to meet the standards to even sell anything which generally means spending more luxury-refitting then you make selling it unless you already lived in a "modernized" lux place. They truly built a prison around everyone that was here first.
I knew it was getting worse over time in the area, but I thought I had another 20 years, and even then never imagined even in my worst nightmares (and you guys know I'm a perpetually pessimistic cynic) that it could get THIS bad ever, let alone this fast. Literally in 5-10 years, mostly in 5, years or so they converted the entire area from one way of life to another. And if you can't keep up with the Jonses (who are senior corporate vice presidents of global development for a major pharmaceutical company and their son is a law student at Stanford after being top of class at the local prep school.) you're completely effed. It's going to turn into LA. You can make 6 figures and still be below poverty.
Heck at one time I thought it was going to turn into Little Mexico, it seemed there was more Spanish than English around....and then suddenly, boom, they're all gone and it's only yuppies and hipsters everywhere. They're building a new Lamborghini dealership...so....yay?
I'll tell them what. They want to build a city? Fine. Start building subway tunnels and trolleys. EVERYWHERE. Connect everything by subway and light rail, and maybe I can almost learn to like their little Yuppietopia. But for now, we have the problems of rural where everything is far away, and the problems of dense urban crowding, congestion and soaring costs....worst of both worlds, unless you're one of the yuppies enjoying all the luxury....
But that's what happens when there's urban development but no urban planning, or better, corrupt politicians that will just zone anything for anyone who pays them. Many of which were/are transient carpet baggers using it as a stepping stone to move onto national office or higher level corporate careers.
"Oh, there are a lot of sexy babes on Captain Jack songs. 😆" @ThanosReXXX Wow.... @Anti-Matter is in it for the babes.... I don't know what planet I'm on....
But yeah, Japanese music isn't that similar to Eurodance stuff. And generally dance music in general like that isn't really designed around listening to it for it's own sake. It's designed for its rhythm and to tie together live activity....sort of like "video game music for real life activities"....not a fan of most "dance" specifically....but it's meant as a soundtrack to actual events, not really meant for listening just to listen to it, so it has a purpose if you're into the club thing...(or rhythm games...)
As for farms: Ahh, that makes more sense. Yeah, no doubt the tropics are being bulldozed for new farms to feed the endless offices here. And yeah, good to hear not everyone is in the whole medical industrial complex. It's so weird, though I somewhat suspect it's a mix of the wealthy area and the American obsession with youth and the thought that you can "buy immortality" through endless medical service consumption. Or at least that's my theory because I really can't fathom what people are doing with all these medical services.
@Anti-Matter My friend, I think we had better stop this conversation, because you keep mentioning stuff I don't like or have no desire for, and you keep posting videos of it, regardless of me not being interested. I don't WANT to know about this music, and I don't CARE about it either.
Why can't you just do what I do? Just post the names of the artists and their songs, instead of spamming the thread with entire video play lists? If people are interested or curious, they will more than likely go and look for videos or music of it by themselves. That's what I meant by not forcing things upon people.
On a side note: and as I expected, you misunderstood me AGAIN. You keep saying what Japanese people like, but that is false. Much like ANYWHERE in the world, there's a part of the people that like dance music, while other parts of the people in that country like rock, hip hop or even classical music. It's the same everywhere. There may be a slight preference of a certain type of music in certain countries, but you can never generalize and say that people of a certain country always like a certain kind of music.
Much like all of us here, they too all have different tastes and preferences.
Oh, and you also misunderstood my slow music comment. I did NOT mean slow music in DDR, but in general, as in ACTUAL, beautiful and slow songs. Not video game songs, playable on a dance mat...
I’ve got a soft spot for “Rhythm of the Night” by Corona. Early “hardcore” techno like N.Y. Style’s “James Brown is Dead” and “Dominator” by Human Resource are also awesome. 😁
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