The Abuse the WiiU has seen is REALLY unprecedented (to another extent the Vita too).
Far Cry 4 isn't going to be out on the WiiU, that will be the 2nd Farcry game to skip WiiU in it's life cycle. (WiiU launched in Nov 18th 2012, Farcry 3 Dec. 4th 2012. NA launches)
Assassin's Creed Unity AND Rouge will not be on WiiU. These games will mark the 4th time an Assassin's Creed Title has skipped the WiiU. The Others were Assassin's Creed Liberation HD and Freedom Cry.
Grand Theft Auto 5 will skip the WiiU a 2nd time. Even though Reggie has expressed interest in the GTA series to hit a Nintendo console, Rockstar has REFUSED to put the game on the system.
Bioshock Infinite skipped WiiU.
Crysis 3 was DENIED for the WiiU. (It was running and EA scrapped the project before we could actually see it in action.)
Tomb Raider skipped WiiU twice.
Batman Arkham Knight will not hit WiiU.
Even Download titles like Soul Calibur 2 HD a game many of us remember playing especially with Link on the Gamecube skipped WiiU.
Recently Resident Evil aka REmake HD was announced. WiiU version? Nope.
Are you starting to see the picture here? This isn't the same situation as Wii to Xbox 360 or PS3. There's a big difference here. WiiU has already proven that it can handle more than what ever the Xbox 360 and PS3 can handle, Yet Activision can't bother itself to support WiiU versions of Call of Duty let alone allow one of the Biggest Games of the Year "Destiny" to even BE on WiiU (Many even questioned if WiiU's Online infrastructure can handle that game. WiiU has freakin' DragonQuest X AN MMO).
This has to stop. It's freakin' awful that all these Systems are getting Games after Games and there's a system that's freakin' starved for Games and all we're getting here are some Old Downloadable Gameboy Advance games and a Dynasty Warrior Zelda. Now that's not me saying I don't want those games because heck Battle Network? Heck yeah! But it's sad to see that those are OUR biggest games. Those, versus, Destiny, Dark Souls 2, South Park Stick of Truth, Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2, Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes, Final Fantasy XIII Lightning Returns, Far cry 4, Tomb Raider, Grand Theft Auto 5, Resident Evil HD Remaster, Assassin's Creed Rouge....and I'm not even call out games for PS4 or Xbox One these are Games that are or already on PS3 and 360. These games should have been on WiiU as well.
Yet are we satisfied with what is being put out for the WiiU? Wasn't Iwata saying they won't stop until we are all Satisfied? I'm all happy about what's coming for the WiiU, I can't wait to play Splatoon, Super Smash Bros 4, Bayonetta or Even Xenoblade X, but that doesn't stop the Fact that The WiiU is getting tarnished left and right by the other systems in terms of SUPPORT. Cause at the Moment all the WiiU really is good for is nothing, but Nintendo Games, and that frankly is very sad to see. There is no community just fans. Fans of Nintendo. That's why you don't see a big outcry for these games on the system. If a Playstation System or an Xbox System were to be treated this exact same way, there would be a bigger outcry than there is for the WiiU, because it feels like I'm in Minority here.
But When will it end? When will 3rd Parties start to figure there is a market for them on the WiiU? When Will Capcom decide to put Ultra Street Fighter IV on WiiU? When will owners of the WiiU get to play the next Bioware game? When will be the Next time we see a Major 3rd Party game on a Nintendo System?
It feels like it'll never happen and that Nintendo consoles will just be like what Origin is on PC. Just a place to get your Nintendo games, but you have to have another System to get the full experience. Might as well call Nintendo Consoles a 3rd Party Peripheral to Sony or Microsoft's Systems.
1) People will buy a WiiU console -> Nintendo will release some killer app in a short lenght of time
2) People who own a WiiU will decide to buy some, objectively good, third parties instead of going crazy for the 10th 2D platform with plumbers or gorillas in it
Boring. We get it. Third party games skip the Wii U. I'm happy playing the Nintendo games yes, plus Shovel Knight and all these indies, and 2 Bayonettas and Devil's Third are not exactly Nintendo games either. That's the way it is. Accept it and move on... there are tons of games coming to Wii U not to mention the 3DS. It's good, it's fun, it works. If it doesn't work for you, play something else.
Boring. We get it. Third party games skip the Wii U. I'm happy playing the Nintendo games yes, plus Shovel Knight and all these indies, and 2 Bayonettas and Devil's Third are not exactly Nintendo games either. That's the way it is. Accept it and move on... there are tons of games coming to Wii U not to mention the 3DS. It's good, it's fun, it works. If it doesn't work for you, play something else.
I have Accepted and Moved on. It's called Steam.
But I guess you can say I haven't Moved because I feel like this should be an issue that needs to be discussed and talked about. It's strange to see old systems like the Xbox 360 and PS3 get more support than a Newer System with the same specs like the WiiU. I remember watching those E3 promos in 2011 and 2012 thinking this will be the Nintendo console that gets it right and 3rd Parties will be on board. Clearly I'm fool in thinking that and I should just sit back and enjoy the ride and accept whatever comes at me. "Tons of Games" so far what I've seen the 360 is getting more of those "Tons" than the WiiU. The Next Big Game we have is Hyrule Warriors...in September. You want to know what else comes in September? Destiny and that's on 360 and PS3.
That's fine, but I'm not interested in Destiny and I have no idea what Far Cry is etc. Sounds like you are more interested in other consoles. This console is interesting to people like me who don't want these games you mentioned in the first place. The only third party games that I wish came to Wii U are Batman and South Park.
Whenever nintedo decides to release nother console which 3rd parties "need more power" on.
Whenever 3rd parties decides to stop doing bs excuses on why they can't support the WiiU.
Whenever the WiiU pulls in call of duty sales..though by that time it could be too late.
Heh, there nothing wrong with buying other consoles to play games on. And by consoles I mean steam and a PC.
Boring. We get it. Third party games skip the Wii U. I'm happy playing the Nintendo games yes, plus Shovel Knight and all these indies, and 2 Bayonettas and Devil's Third are not exactly Nintendo games either. That's the way it is. Accept it and move on... there are tons of games coming to Wii U not to mention the 3DS. It's good, it's fun, it works. If it doesn't work for you, play something else.
I have Accepted and Moved on. It's called Steam.
But I guess you can say I haven't Moved because I feel like this should be an issue that needs to be discussed and talked about. It's strange to see old systems like the Xbox 360 and PS3 get more support than a Newer System with the same specs like the WiiU. I remember watching those E3 promos in 2011 and 2012 thinking this will be the Nintendo console that gets it right and 3rd Parties will be on board. Clearly I'm fool in thinking that and I should just sit back and enjoy the ride and accept whatever comes at me. "Tons of Games" so far what I've seen the 360 is getting more of those "Tons" than the WiiU. The Next Big Game we have is Hyrule Warriors...in September. You want to know what else comes in September? Destiny and that's on 360 and PS3.
....a Newer System with the same specs like the WiiU... that's a point in the problem.... too close to the last gen console, or at least that was the perception of many "potential" users at the launch time.... Nintendo choice was towards a new controller and not towards more raw power... plus the system architecture is trickier for porting than Xbox and PS3/4...
On the other points I agree, like you I believed this will be the console which unify Nintendo and third parties... but it seems (as the dumedum comment says) that the real problem here is that the userbase is completely splitted... the Nintendo fanbase (or at least majority of this) don't care about this other triple AAA products... (which will confirm my theory) and won't buy them in any case.... so, for someone like you and me, the only solution is to have the Nintendo + Other console (or PC)... and that partially sucks....
Seems to revive the PC vs Macintosh era... two totally unrelated userbase, with different aims and different softwares....
If you thought that Nintendo and Third Party would get along then you've been joking yourself. With all those promo's and old games that came at launch it was clear that this wasn't going to be different. Yes I'm sad that some games I'd kill for aren't playable for but I'm more than satisfied with my WiiU. Today is my birthday, I got DKC:TF while I still got lots of games to finish and I'll be buying the big release games these coming months, even Watch_Dogs. And I think we tried to support Third Party but as soon as everyone saw what was going on it stopped. I've got my fair share of Third Party games, but I'm rare in that.
This whole problem is as almost as old as the N64, it's so deeply rooted that you can't get rid off it. Not without complete restructures. I don't think it will ever end but don't you dare call Nintendo Consoles a 3rd Party Peripheral. That's making Nintendo Consoles smaller than they are/ deserve ro be.
Oh and everybody just hates Ubi after the stunt they pulled with Rayman Legends, something that really bit them in the donkey.
It will end when a majority of Wii U owners start actually buy third party games, companies go where the money is.
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with a user base of 7 millions (let's say), it would be easy for a good 3d party game to get at least 500k sells on the system, expecially with this usual software draught we are into, and that i guess will be acceptable to keep on on porting... if they cannot reach that number, it means to me that too many user simply don't care....
It will end when a majority of Wii U owners start actually buy third party games, companies go where the money is.
E-X-A-C-T-L-Y
with a user base of 7 millions (let's say), it would be easy for a good 3d party game to get at least 500k sells on the system, expecially with this usual software draught we are into, and that i guess will be acceptable to keep on on porting... if they cannot reach that number, it means to me that too many user simply don't care....
You forget one thing, sales expectation. These companies have shown to have sales expectations way above realistic sales numbers for the WiiU. When you expect 9 million sales with say a 6 million userbase you're nuts. They can't hold the WiiU ro the same standards as they have with PS360 and Xbone/Ps4
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This whole problem is as almost as old as the N64, it's so deeply rooted that you can't get rid off it. Not without complete restructures. I don't think it will ever end but don't you dare call Nintendo Consoles a 3rd Party Peripheral. That's making Nintendo Consoles smaller than they are/ deserve ro be.
Oh and everybody just hates Ubi after the stunt they pulled with Rayman Legends, something that really bit them in the ass.
U put in a very interesting point.... I believe that keep beating the hammer on the "Nintendo difference" for so many years, made Nintendo chocking themselves with their own hands on the long run... they kind of carved out a userbase which is just looking for that sort of game.... kind of an elitist movement if you pass my term. While this would have been work in a pre PS 1 era, nowadays, with big competition and big developing costs, is becoming a big hurting factor for the company.... and I agree also on the point that is almost irreversible....
It will end when a majority of Wii U owners start actually buy third party games, companies go where the money is.
E-X-A-C-T-L-Y
with a user base of 7 millions (let's say), it would be easy for a good 3d party game to get at least 500k sells on the system, expecially with this usual software draught we are into, and that i guess will be acceptable to keep on on porting... if they cannot reach that number, it means to me that too many user simply don't care....
You forget one thing, sales expectation. These companies have shown to have sales expectations way above realistic sales numbers for the WiiU. When you expect 9 million sales with say a 6 million userbase you're nuts. They can't hold the WiiU ro the same standards as they have with PS360 and Xbone/Ps4
Heh, doesn't help that some features are cut whle it's other console bretheren has everything.
It will end when a majority of Wii U owners start actually buy third party games, companies go where the money is.
E-X-A-C-T-L-Y
with a user base of 7 millions (let's say), it would be easy for a good 3d party game to get at least 500k sells on the system, expecially with this usual software draught we are into, and that i guess will be acceptable to keep on on porting... if they cannot reach that number, it means to me that too many user simply don't care....
You forget one thing, sales expectation. These companies have shown to have sales expectations way above realistic sales numbers for the WiiU. When you expect 9 million sales with say a 6 million userbase you're nuts. They can't hold the WiiU ro the same standards as they have with PS360 and Xbone/Ps4
Heh, doesn't help that some features are cut whle it's other console bretheren has everything.
that's mainly on the multiplayer side of many ports... on which I suspect there is also a Nintendo hand (remember the problem between EA and Nintendo about origin servers?)
@Akazury : I don't know what Promos you saw. I saw for WiiU's launch RELEVANT game titles for the WiiU everything EXCEPT Batman Arkham City (why did they think that was a good idea?) was released in 2012. Mass Effect 3, 2012, Darksiders 2, 2012, Ninja Gaiden 3, 2012 AND NINJA GAIDEN 3 WAS A "FIXED" VERSION! It was better than the other consoles. I expected a lot more honestly from WiiU 2 years later and it's a Next Generation Wii, except at this Point Wii had a LOT better 3rd Party support and that's saying a lot.
@arnoldlayne83 : and that's the number 1 thing I hate about this fanbase. It really IS split down the middle. You got those who WANT the 3rd Party games and you got those who DON'T want the 3rd Party games and I feel like it's killing Nintendo. If it wasn't for Nintendo's great IPs I wouldn't be here, nor would I be buying Nintendo systems day 1.
@dumedum : If I was interested in the other consoles I would get them. And I do have a PS3 and 360. And I did buy Final Fantasy XIII Lightning Returns, BlazBlue Chrono Phantasma, and Dark Souls 2 Collector's Edition for the PS3. I do it, because those were games Interested in. If they were on WiiU I would have bought WiiU versions, but they're not guess where I have to go? It's not like I have a choice. Just because I'm interested in those games doesn't mean I'm at all interested in the consoles. I didn't bonkers and head over heels to go get a PS4 at launch unlike the WiiU I did actually go to Gamestop early just to get my WiiU. Because that's how much I love Nintendo, so It's sad to see that my favorite console company is getting trashed like this and it makes feel like I shouldn't hold on any more I should just move on, like you said. But I'm not going anywhere. Not as long as Nintendo keeps making their awesome games I won't move. I just wish we had more than just Nintendo games.
It will end when a majority of Wii U owners start actually buy third party games, companies go where the money is.
E-X-A-C-T-L-Y
with a user base of 7 millions (let's say), it would be easy for a good 3d party game to get at least 500k sells on the system, expecially with this usual software draught we are into, and that i guess will be acceptable to keep on on porting... if they cannot reach that number, it means to me that too many user simply don't care....
You forget one thing, sales expectation. These companies have shown to have sales expectations way above realistic sales numbers for the WiiU. When you expect 9 million sales with say a 6 million userbase you're nuts. They can't hold the WiiU ro the same standards as they have with PS360 and Xbone/Ps4
Heh, doesn't help that some features are cut whle it's other console bretheren has everything.
that's mainly on the multiplayer side of many ports... on which I suspect there is also a Nintendo hand (remember the problem between EA and Nintendo about origin servers?)
It was 't about servers but about origin being the main way to operate the system/get games
Everything can change, but I'm never changing who I am
It will end when a majority of Wii U owners start actually buy third party games, companies go where the money is.
E-X-A-C-T-L-Y
with a user base of 7 millions (let's say), it would be easy for a good 3d party game to get at least 500k sells on the system, expecially with this usual software draught we are into, and that i guess will be acceptable to keep on on porting... if they cannot reach that number, it means to me that too many user simply don't care....
You forget one thing, sales expectation. These companies have shown to have sales expectations way above realistic sales numbers for the WiiU. When you expect 9 million sales with say a 6 million userbase you're nuts. They can't hold the WiiU ro the same standards as they have with PS360 and Xbone/Ps4
Heh, doesn't help that some features are cut whle it's other console bretheren has everything.
that's mainly on the multiplayer side of many ports... on which I suspect there is also a Nintendo hand (remember the problem between EA and Nintendo about origin servers?)
It was 't about servers but about origin being the main way to operate the system/get games
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