Nintendo would never sell out and even if they did it would ONLY be if it was their only way to succeed. Also, if Nintendo were dying, any company would LOVE to grab them for the rights to all their games.
It doesn't have to be 'selling out'.
Companies exist as separate divisions of other companies all the time. I'm not sure why mostly everyone thinks Nintendo's HQ would be leveled and everything would change. A lot of times people don't even realize certain companies have been bought out.
It would more or less be a way more Apple and Nintendo to share their consumer base and improve upon each others product, something that fits right into Nintendo's strategy.
There isn't all this pride and stuff keeping this from happening, it's a bunch of legal stuff. Everyone has this perception of Nintendo being a very proud, traditional company. They're not, they're the same as every other business. Always looking for the next best way to make money.
Companies exist as separate divisions of other companies all the time. I'm not sure why mostly everyone thinks Nintendo's HQ would be leveled and everything would change. A lot of times people don't even realize certain companies have been bought out.
I'm well aware of the situation and by no means expected Nintendo HQ to be leveled just because Apple bought them. But like I said, I don't believe Nintendo would allow themselves to be bought unless they were going down. Hence the phrase "selling out."
It would more or less be a way more Apple and Nintendo to share their consumer base and improve upon each others product, something that fits right into Nintendo's strategy.
I don't see how that fits into Nintendo's strategy at all. Nintendo is in the business of making video game systems and video games. That is all. If Apple and Nintendo were to join together, then screw everything that Nintendo has worked on for their own systems as their games would be available for everything Apple makes. How would that benefit Nintendo at all? I just don't see it as something Nintendo would do. Do you know about the whole Nintendo / Sony thing?
There isn't all this pride and stuff keeping this from happening, it's a bunch of legal stuff. Everyone has this perception of Nintendo being a very proud, traditional company. They're not, they're the same as every other business. Always looking for the next best way to make money.
You really think that Nintendo doesn't have pride? Yes, they are a business and must act as such in order to survive. But doesn't the fact that the company is ran by a game developer and not a business man tell you anything?
I'm well aware of the situation and by no means expected Nintendo HQ to be leveled just because Apple bought them. But like I said, I don't believe Nintendo would allow themselves to be bought unless they were going down. Hence the phrase "selling out."
That's great
Fortunately I came into this knowing not everyone would share my belief
How would that benefit Nintendo at all? I just don't see it as something Nintendo would do.
Already explained this. As well as someone else.
And that's great that you don't. Again this is discussion largely based on conjecture, I don't expect everyone to reach a consensus. Neither do I care what everyone else thinks, it's not going to change my idea of this hypothetical outcome.
Do you know about the whole Nintendo / Sony thing?
I know everything my friend. It's a gift and a curse
And that has nothing to do with this. Apples and monkeys you have there.
You really think that Nintendo doesn't have pride? Yes, they are a business and must act as such in order to survive. But doesn't the fact that the company is ran by a game developer and not a business man tell you anything?
No that doesn't tell me anything, they enjoy money just the same
Again not something I care to convince anyone about. A lot of people have a nice grandfather-esque perception of Nintendo that I don't care to ruin. There's just a common theme that reoccurs throughout history: everyone has a price.
The only reason it's not "plausible" is Apple's traditional distaste for large acquisitions and gaming. Those were both as a consequence of Steve Jobs. He's gone now, and Tim Cook is more pragmatic. It's now plausible, if unlikely.
I'm well aware of the situation and by no means expected Nintendo HQ to be leveled just because Apple bought them. But like I said, I don't believe Nintendo would allow themselves to be bought unless they were going down. Hence the phrase "selling out."
Why do you believe that? Because you like Nintendo? Do you have Iwata's number on speed dial and inner knowledge of his mind?
Fans (Nintendo, Sony, Apple, Microsoft, Enron), often forget that a corporation's responsibilities lie to its shareholders. Or, in other words, the shareholders own the company. Acting in the best interests of those shareholders would be to sell the company to Apple. Apple can do far more to build shareholder value for a company like Nintendo than Nintendo can do itself.
What's holdring Nintendo off selling itself is likely the fear of reputational damage.
I don't see how that fits into Nintendo's strategy at all. Nintendo is in the business of making video game systems and video games. That is all. If Apple and Nintendo were to join together, then screw everything that Nintendo has worked on for their own systems as their games would be available for everything Apple makes. How would that benefit Nintendo at all? I just don't see it as something Nintendo would do. Do you know about the whole Nintendo / Sony thing?
Nintendo would still be making video game stuff under Apple? Likely Nintendo's R & D facilities would be put to work intergrating gaming-specific technology into Apple products (Bluetooth controller, for instance). The software teams would be making games for those platforms. Nothing, not a single thing, would actually change.
Every company Apple has acquired has continued to do exactly the same thing it was doing before. Apple acquires for the technology, not for the IP, so it doesn't tend to butcher up companies once bought.
You really think that Nintendo doesn't have pride? Yes, they are a business and must act as such in order to survive. But doesn't the fact that the company is ran by a game developer and not a business man tell you anything?
No. It doesn't tell you anything, other than that the CEO of the business should know a lot about the industry.
Furthermore, the CEO of a company isn't the most important person when it comes to M & A. Iwata answers to a board and shareholders. They're the ones that make these decisions.
Apple would love to see Ninty, probably their biggest gaming rival, suffering... They aren't going to go up and offer $40 billion to them. I do admit I'd love to see Nintendo get the strongest hardware, but as long as they continue to sell well, it won't matter because they aren't going anywhere soon. Besides, Apple would probably nerf their games quality to hell.
Fans (Nintendo, Sony, Apple, Microsoft, Enron), often forget that a corporation's responsibilities lie to its shareholders. Or, in other words, the shareholders own the company. Acting in the best interests of those shareholders would be to sell the company to Apple. Apple can do far more to build shareholder value for a company like Nintendo than Nintendo can do itself.
If Nintendo were that money hungry they would have given in to Sony. Instead, they took the fall and created a monster in the process all due to the fact that they didn't want someone else to have the rights to all their stuff.
Nintendo would still be making video game stuff under Apple? Likely Nintendo's R & D facilities would be put to work intergrating gaming-specific technology into Apple products (Bluetooth controller, for instance). The software teams would be making games for those platforms. Nothing, not a single thing, would actually change.
You're saying that Nintendo's games on Apple products would not change a thing? That is outright hilarious.
No. It doesn't tell you anything, other than that the CEO of the business should know a lot about the industry.
Well, it tells me that games and gamers mean more to him than they would a businessman. He would remain more loyal to the games and gamers whereas a business man would be more loyal to the money.
Furthermore, the CEO of a company isn't the most important person when it comes to M & A. Iwata answers to a board and shareholders. They're the ones that make these decisions.
That still doesn't change who Iwata is as a person, only what position he is in.
Apple would love to see Ninty, probably their biggest gaming rival, suffering... They aren't going to go up and offer $40 billion to them. I do admit I'd love to see Nintendo get the strongest hardware, but as long as they continue to sell well, it won't matter because they aren't going anywhere soon. Besides, Apple would probably nerf their games quality to hell.
What else does Apple do that isn't quality, exactly?
That's pretty much Apple's entire reputation, there - quality goods that a few billion people are willing to pay more for.
1.) Apple would love to see Ninty, probably their biggest gaming rival, suffering... 2.) They aren't going to go up and offer $40 billion to them. I do admit I'd love to see Nintendo get the strongest hardware, but 3.) as long as they continue to sell well, it won't matter because they aren't going anywhere soon. 4.) Besides, Apple would probably nerf their games quality to hell.
What evidence do you have for any of those assertions?
I don't think Apple is in a position to want anyone to suffer. They're doing just fine. They have plenty of money to purchase almost anything. Successful companies are purchased all the time. And there are arguably more high quality games on Apple platforms than on Nintendo's, why would you assume there to be a negative effect on Nintendo's quality?
As if Nintendo is just releasing a ton of high quality products all the time... lol
Furthermore, the CEO of a company isn't the most important person when it comes to M & A. Iwata answers to a board and shareholders. They're the ones that make these decisions.
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@Sony_70 What about Sony? Did you know that one point in time, when the Wii launched, Nintendo had more money that Sony? The company that OWNS playstation?
Yeah I don't think Apple really has a large rival..
If I recall correctly, Apple is worth somewhere in the ballpark of $550 billion and Nintendo is worth around $3 billion.
Yeah guys, there is no way Nintendo could benefit from a company that is over a hundred times more successful... lol
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But I bet they arnt greedy, and can also see the flaws of joining such a successful company.
IDK the flaws, but there are probably flaws and Nintendo probably sees them and is uninterested in getting involved with those said flaws
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