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CanisWolfred

SCAR392 wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

Except there was demand for the 360 version of Final Fantasy XIII. The PS3 was the lesser choice at the time, so a lot of FF fans switched to the 360, and enough of those people demanded it that they felt it was a worthwhile investment.

That makes zero sense. PS3 being the "lesser choice" shouldn't have effected SE's support, at all, and it technically didn't, because it still got FF13.

They were already developing it for the PS3, and if they shut down the PS3 version entirely, they would've lost fans. Now they've stratefied the fanbase. Damage has been done, and now they have to make ports to support their Xbox fans, which again shouldn't be a problem since the Xbox One and PS4 are similar enough to make porting easy.

The Wii U lacks both the fanbase and the tech to make a port of FFXV worthwhile.

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moomoo

Microsoft had a massive push for JRPGs early on, with the likes of Blue Dragon, Lost Oddysey, and Tales of Vesparia. That, combined with the 360 having way better sales at that time, justified the 360 version.

As for the argument as a whole, let's look at it this way. Square Enix has a bunch of economists and analysts who have went to college and have had years of experience have direct access to a myriad of data, including past sales numbers, money made, how much money ports/other versions of games cost, etc. If there is a way to make money without undergoing immense amounts of risk in Square Enix's area of expertise, they will jump on it. Yet they aren't.

I don't know about you, but I'm more willing to trust the reasoning behind people who have experience in this area than a bunch of armchair experts on a Nintendo forum.

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Dude, read the links I just posted. They prove that Wii U runs DX11 equivalents. How hard is this to understand, really?

It's like you guys can't even f***ing read...

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SCRAPPER392

moomoo wrote:

Microsoft had a massive push for JRPGs early on, with the likes of Blue Dragon, Lost Oddysey, and Tales of Vesparia. That, combined with the 360 having way better sales at that time, justified the 360 version.

As for the argument as a whole, let's look at it this way. Square Enix has a bunch of economists and analysts who have went to college and have had years of experience have direct access to a myriad of data, including past sales numbers, money made, how much money ports/other versions of games cost, etc. If there is a way to make money without undergoing immense amounts of risk in Square Enix's area of expertise, they will jump on it. Yet they aren't.

I don't know about you, but I'm more willing to trust the reasoning behind people who have experience in this area than a bunch of armchair experts on a Nintendo forum.

Thats the point, though. They haven't said s***, so quit assuming.

SE never said that the Wii U can't run FFXV. That was some bulls*** that some mofo made up to troll the internet, and tons of people believed it, making toms of people look like idiots in the process.

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moomoo

@SCAR392 The fact that SE hasn't announced a Wii U version probably means they don't feel like it's worth it. They've got their data and reasoning, so regardless of what is said in this thread, it doesn't change SE's decision.

So let's stop getting bent out of shape about it, all of us.

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SCRAPPER392

moomoo wrote:

@SCAR392 The fact that SE hasn't announced a Wii U version probably means they don't feel like it's worth it. They've got their data and reasoning, so regardless of what is said in this thread, it doesn't change SE's decision.

So let's stop getting bent out of shape about it, all of us.

You're saying that today, but it will be "about the specs", 2 or so replies from now, so I don't really give a damn

If it's not about money, it's about specs, if it's not about specs, if it's about demand, it's about money, if it's not about money, it's about... We've already been over this stuff. It's not up to us, whatever the reasons are or aren't, so screw it.

EDIT; I just don't want to hear some BS that I already know is false.

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Oragami

kkslider5552000 wrote:

Let's all make better threads.

Thank you I appreciate your support. (sarcasm)
But in all seriousness, I actually support your new thread, so everyone should visit "Demand The World Ends With U" (https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/wii-u/demand_the_world_ends_with_u#reply-10).

And I still don't know why people are negative on this forum.

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moomoo

Oragami wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

Let's all make better threads.

Thank you I appreciate your support. (sarcasm)
But in all seriousness, I actually support your new thread, so everyone should visit "Demand The World Ends With U" (https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/wii-u/demand_the_world_ends_with_u#reply-10).

And I still don't know why people are negative on this forum.

I think it's more about people being realists.

That, and not everyone is super pleased with their Wii U.

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Oragami

moomoo wrote:

Oragami wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

Let's all make better threads.

Thank you I appreciate your support. (sarcasm)
But in all seriousness, I actually support your new thread, so everyone should visit "Demand The World Ends With U" (https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/wii-u/demand_the_world_ends_with_u#reply-10).

And I still don't know why people are negative on this forum.

I think it's more about people being realists.

That, and not everyone is super pleased with their Wii U.

FFXV could very reasonably be brought to the Wii U. I've shown why in my previous posts. These "realists" just need to express their want for FFXV on Wii U and maybe it will come.

And I'm super satisfied with my Wii U. Like really, really satisfied.

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Jaz007

@Oragami What if these realists," don't really want to buy an inferior port when we are just planning to get on a system it's already announced for? We necessarily have that much of a desire for a Wii U version.

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Jaz007

Oragami

Jaz007 wrote:

@Oragami What if these realists," don't really want to buy an inferior port when we are just planning to get on a system it's already announced for? We necessarily have that much of a desire for a Wii U version.

You don't HAVE to buy the Wii U version. It's not like you can't buy the PS4/Xbox One version if the Wii U version is released.

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Jaz007

Oragami wrote:

Jaz007 wrote:

@Oragami What if these realists," don't really want to buy an inferior port when we are just planning to get on a system it's already announced for? We necessarily have that much of a desire for a Wii U version.

You don't HAVE to buy the Wii U version. It's not like you can't buy the PS4/Xbox One version if the Wii U version is released.

My point was, why would we ask SE to make a product that we have no intention of buying?

Jaz007

Oragami

Jaz007 wrote:

Oragami wrote:

Jaz007 wrote:

@Oragami What if these realists," don't really want to buy an inferior port when we are just planning to get on a system it's already announced for? We necessarily have that much of a desire for a Wii U version.

You don't HAVE to buy the Wii U version. It's not like you can't buy the PS4/Xbox One version if the Wii U version is released.

My point was, why would we ask SE to make a product that we have no intention of buying?

I don't think you represent everyone though.

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Regardless of whether or not he represents everyone, he has a point. Why ask for something if you're not going to buy it?

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Oragami

Aviator wrote:

Neither do you.

I never said I did. I represent the people who want FFXV on the Wii U.

Unca_Lz wrote:

Regardless of whether or not he represents everyone, he has a point. Why ask for something if you're not going to buy it?

He may not want it, but that doesn't mean nobody wants it.

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LzWinky

The thing is not enough people would want it. Most of Final Fantasy's fanbase will probably already own a PS4 in anticipation for FF games anyway

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Oragami

Unca_Lz wrote:

The thing is not enough people would want it. Most of Final Fantasy's fanbase will probably already own a PS4 in anticipation for FF games anyway

But the question is if there are enough FFXV, Action RPG, or JRPG fans who own Wii U's but not PS4's or Xbox One's. Considering the lack of Action RPG's and JRPG's on the Wii U, I can't imagine it wouldn't sell. Plus, there has to be some Final Fantasy fans that own a Wii U but not a PS4 or Xbox One. With those facts all together, the game almost has to sell.

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SCRAPPER392

@Jaz007
How would you know that it would be an inferior port? You don't. Again, with the not reading... DX11 level graphics are possible on Wii U. This already confirms that the game wouldn't be inferior, as long as they match it to Wii U's specs, which they already said they were doing for all the consoles they were putting it on.

The only games that won't be possible on Wii U, are games that utilize the PS4's extra features(aka: Sony IPs, exclusive games) Since this game is on Xbox One, those extra PS4 capabilities aren't going to be touched at all, so there's literally no way for Wii U to get an inferior port.

Does anyone here realize what DX11 even means?

EDIT: I can assure you that a Wii U port wouldn't be inferior. <read

EDIT: If you have no intentions of buying the game on Wii U, why even partake in this thread? The specs and such aren't an issue.

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