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Mahe

21. Posted:

LzQuacker wrote:

And then there are fewer reasons to buy a Wii U ;)

Yeah, because it's selling so well right now...

Imagine a Wii U console package that had the Wiimote instead of the Gamepad. It would instantly look different, the people who haven't been interested in the current packaging on store shelves, featuring the Gamepad, might become interested to pick one up, because it features the familiar Wiimote that everybody has seen. It wouldn't hurt that dropping the Gamepad from the retail package and replacing it with a Wiimote would allow Nintendo to drop the price by around 50 by itself, maybe even 100. Add in the factor that they might be planning a price drop in any case, you could easily be looking at a Wii U priced 199 with a Wiimote. That would be a huge difference, and it would signal to people that this is a console that can play Wiimote games. Unfortunately, the current Wii U packaging may leave people confused by not featuring the Wiimote, so some people might not know they can play Wii U games like New SMB U and Trine 2 with Wiimotes.

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rockodoodle

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Good post. I think the Wii U is a good machine- but the next generation will be killer. by then the cost of memory will be so low- to a degree that's what hurt nintendo by releasing a year before Sony and MSFT. As you mention, probably multiple gamepads that might also have additional functionality.

It will be interesting to see if Pikmin helps sales. It has gotten good reviews by even mainstream media, so maybe the next round of games will quell some of the Wii U hate..

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I expect this generation for Nintendo to last just as long as the last. 6 Years. 2006 - 2012 was the Wii,
2012 - 2018 is the Wii U. Also, the 3DS will have 7 years just like the DS.
2004 - 2011 was the DS, 2011 - 2018 is the 3DS.

From the merging of handheld and home console devisions recently, this suggests that a hybrid console is in the works. A system that is a handheld device, but is also a controller for the next home console.

The main controller/handheld will have 3 screens. Looking at it, it looks like a small Wii U Gamepad, but the screen flips open and reveals 2 inner HD screens. The button layout doesn't flip open, just the screen. It's hard to explain.

The system, when on the go, can play future 4DS titles(I know it won't be called 4DS...) and these titles will allow play with one screen...or 2 screens. You choose!

When the system is in within 100 ft of a docking station(home console), you can automatically connect to it and use it as a controller.

The home console will use this handheld device as the main controller, but the device itself is the next gen handheld system. Like I mentioned....Nintendo already merged both divisions...it's going to happen.

Wii Remote Plus will still be around...it'll just be more compact, smaller, and named something else. Pro controller support is also available for local multiplayer without buying a whole new device. Digital purchases is a heavy focus, but Nintendo won't abandon physical retail games.

This system's lifespan will be about 10 years...before we see a highly upgraded version...and so forth.

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Mahe wrote:

LzQuacker wrote:

And then there are fewer reasons to buy a Wii U ;)

Yeah, because it's selling so well right now...

Imagine a Wii U console package that had the Wiimote instead of the Gamepad. It would instantly look different, the people who haven't been interested in the current packaging on store shelves, featuring the Gamepad, might become interested to pick one up, because it features the familiar Wiimote that everybody has seen. It wouldn't hurt that dropping the Gamepad from the retail package and replacing it with a Wiimote would allow Nintendo to drop the price by around 50 by itself, maybe even 100. Add in the factor that they might be planning a price drop in any case, you could easily be looking at a Wii U priced 199 with a Wiimote. That would be a huge difference, and it would signal to people that this is a console that can play Wiimote games. Unfortunately, the current Wii U packaging may leave people confused by not featuring the Wiimote, so some people might not know they can play Wii U games like New SMB U and Trine 2 with Wiimotes.

They could try this./.. but the question is.. how many people are over the Waggle.. also how many of the people that bought a Wii would buy a new Wii U just for improved graphics.. The Wii U is a important step forward because it adds to the legacy of the Wii.. and makes it better in a lot of ways.. (Grant you I don't know why they did not just ship the Eshop or whatever from the Wii to the Wii U with the virtual console in tow ) still with that being said.. maybe if they showed commercials.. of people playing the Wii U on the gamepad.. then playing on the Wii Mote... and finally playing with the Balance Board.. and maybe the steering wheel and pedals... all in one advertisement along with the picture of the system.. .. and show that the Wii U is a better version of the Wii.. they can sell it easier..

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demonta4 wrote:

So if nintendo diched wii u( not that i want them too) what would you want in a new console?
Or would you like this new console sold alongside wii u?
Or is the wii u doing just fine?

Well ditching the Wii U is a bad idea.. anyone who thinks this is a good idea.. after only one year or less.. is not someone worth listening too...

2. I am not sure... I did not expect a whole lot out of the Wii U(specs wise).. and got exactly what I expected(Basically the Wii U is this generations Dreamcast).. that is not a bad thing.. it's just knowing Nintendo as a company and their stance on certain things.. I guess what I would expect is for the Gamepad to be sold seperately.. and maybe the new system to come with a pro controller.. and a little more power... I doubt however that it would come close to competing with the power of the PS4 or XBOX One though.. so in the end it would not make a huge difference anyway right now..(Or if it did it would probably compare with the One.. seeing as to how it is the weaker of the systems.. ) (Oh and for the Love of God make a Account based system for online purchases)

3. The Wii U will do just fine.. as soon as the Big N unloads it library... that is sort of what happened in Japan.. Pikemen 3 came out with Luigi Expansion.. and Wii U became the Number one selling console for two weeks.. (Console excluding handhelds) because a lot of people are more than likely holding off on the Wii U for certain titles.. and once these come out.. the Wii U will begin it's push and will most likely move systems side by side.. with the 8th gen competition..

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skywake

25. Posted:

Mahe wrote:

Imagine a Wii U console package that had the Wiimote instead of the Gamepad. It would instantly look different, the people who haven't been interested in the current packaging on store shelves, featuring the Gamepad, might become interested to pick one up, because it features the familiar Wiimote that everybody has seen.

I'll just stop you right there. The problem with the Wii U's image in relation to the GamePad isn't so much that the GamePad idea is disliked amongst consumers. It's two entirely different things. The first one is that some people think that the Wii U is an accessory for the Wii and that the price is a lot of money for an accessory. Something that isn't helped with advertisements like this:
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The second image problem is different entirely. This group of people often hype ideas like the Wii U gamepad that aren't the Wii U GamePad. Like Vita's remote play, Nvidia Shield, Smart Glass and to some degree things like Chromecast and Oculus Rift. Tech that gives you a new screen and often a second screen that allows you to interact with the game differently. Their problem isn't the screen, their problem is the graphical power of the Wii U and the type of content Nintendo publishes.

Throwing away the GamePad would just make these people even less interested in the Wii U. It would make the Wii U an overclocked 360 with Nintendo games and nothing more than that. If you put WiiMotes in the box the people who think the Wii U was an accessory would probably start to think that the Wii U was actually a Wii redesign but that they decided to dump the new accessory from the package. So I don't see how this grand plan would solve anything and I think it would more likely just amplify the image problems.

The real problem, the one thing they can do to solve these issues is very simple. Software. Create good software and people will realise that those games aren't for the Wii. It will suddenly click that this isn't just a niche product. Create good software and a large chunk of the people complaining about the lack of power will forget about the lack of power. They will play the Smash Bros, Mario Karts and so on. They don't need a new console, they don't need to rework the contents of the box.... they might need a price drop.... but what they really need is software. Nothing more.

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Neoproteus

26. Posted:

ZackNormandin wrote:

I expect this generation for Nintendo to last just as long as the last. 6 Years. 2006 - 2012 was the Wii,
2012 - 2018 is the Wii U. Also, the 3DS will have 7 years just like the DS.
2004 - 2011 was the DS, 2011 - 2018 is the 3DS.

From the merging of handheld and home console devisions recently, this suggests that a hybrid console is in the works. A system that is a handheld device, but is also a controller for the next home console.

The main controller/handheld will have 3 screens. Looking at it, it looks like a small Wii U Gamepad, but the screen flips open and reveals 2 inner HD screens. The button layout doesn't flip open, just the screen. It's hard to explain.

The system, when on the go, can play future 4DS titles(I know it won't be called 4DS...) and these titles will allow play with one screen...or 2 screens. You choose!

When the system is in within 100 ft of a docking station(home console), you can automatically connect to it and use it as a controller.

The home console will use this handheld device as the main controller, but the device itself is the next gen handheld system. Like I mentioned....Nintendo already merged both divisions...it's going to happen.

Wii Remote Plus will still be around...it'll just be more compact, smaller, and named something else. Pro controller support is also available for local multiplayer without buying a whole new device. Digital purchases is a heavy focus, but Nintendo won't abandon physical retail games.

This system's lifespan will be about 10 years...before we see a highly upgraded version...and so forth.

No, you've got it all wrong. The WiiDS will have all the functions of the Wii U gamepad, plus a top screen in HD3D. You don't need two separate pieces of hardware, just to be able to hook it up to the TV and the charger for at-home use, rather than using the existing screens as a portable-only device. What's interesting here is that they might allow additional controllers to be synced to a portable system, whether it's using a television or not. While this would give us three screens while it's hooked up at home, I doubt that would be a compelling feature, so the top screen might be able to fold behind the device entirely to hide it out of the way when it's not in use, potentially mimicking the useless touchpad on a PSVita just to rub it in Sony's face... It will also feature primarily 2D games, with a much lesser focus on AAA 3D titles. NSMB, 2D Zelda, 2D Metroid, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Smash Bros, Pokemon, Fire Emblem, and Pinball are all to be expected. Very few games will actually fulfill the potential of the more powerful hardware, which remains to be seen if it will be worse or better than a PS4. Perhaps called the 2DS? Finally, the virtual console will feature all previously released games from past consoles that used the service, including NES, SNES, N64, Gameboy, GBC, GBA, with releases from DS, Gamecube, 3DS and Wii being converted as the system goes on. It will likely be the last system Nintendo ever makes. Not because it will fail, but because more powerful hardware will have to be sold at a significant loss, which is not profitable. That is of course, before VR arrives...

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skywake

27. Posted:

Neoproteus wrote:

ZackNormandin wrote:

I expect this generation for Nintendo to last just as long as the last. 6 Years. 2006 - 2012 was the Wii,
2012 - 2018 is the Wii U. Also, the 3DS will have 7 years just like the DS.
2004 - 2011 was the DS, 2011 - 2018 is the 3DS.

From the merging of handheld and home console devisions recently, this suggests that a hybrid console is in the works. A system that is a handheld device, but is also a controller for the next home console.[.....].

No, you've got it all wrong. The WiiDS will have all the functions of the Wii U gamepad, plus a top screen in HD3D. You don't need two separate pieces of hardware, just to be able to hook it up to the TV and the charger for at-home use, rather than using the existing screens as a portable-only device. [...]

You're both wrong. The Wii U IS the "hybrid" and the 3DS is capable of graphics once only possible on home consoles. All the merging of the teams says is that some games that started on the Wii U might end up on the 3DS and visa versa. Like Pikmin 3 which started as a 3DS game and only moved to the Wii U when they concluded that 1080p was a big deal for Pikmin. Or the fact that New SMB 2 and New SMB U were made in parallel with New SMB 2 being made by the newbies and New SMB U being made by the 'pro' team. Then there's Smash Bros which is being developed for both 3DS and Wii U at the same time. It also happened between the Wii and 3DS.... but didn't happen between Wii and DS

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MAB

28. Posted:

Wow! the ideas in this thread would be lucky to sell another 160,000 in five years ;)

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29. Posted:

Mahe wrote:

LzQuacker wrote:

And then there are fewer reasons to buy a Wii U ;)

Yeah, because it's selling so well right now...

Imagine a Wii U console package that had the Wiimote instead of the Gamepad. It would instantly look different, the people who haven't been interested in the current packaging on store shelves, featuring the Gamepad, might become interested to pick one up, because it features the familiar Wiimote that everybody has seen. It wouldn't hurt that dropping the Gamepad from the retail package and replacing it with a Wiimote would allow Nintendo to drop the price by around 50 by itself, maybe even 100. Add in the factor that they might be planning a price drop in any case, you could easily be looking at a Wii U priced 199 with a Wiimote. That would be a huge difference, and it would signal to people that this is a console that can play Wiimote games. Unfortunately, the current Wii U packaging may leave people confused by not featuring the Wiimote, so some people might not know they can play Wii U games like New SMB U and Trine 2 with Wiimotes.

There's a huge problem with your proposal. What's going to distinguish the Wii U from the Wii at this point. There was at least the Gamepad...but now there's no distinction for the average consumer anymore.

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rockodoodle

30. Posted:

Since so few games truly take advantage of the Gamepad, it could help boost sales- and I'd imagine that people would eventually want one anyway.

LzQuacker wrote:

Mahe wrote:

LzQuacker wrote:

And then there are fewer reasons to buy a Wii U ;)

Yeah, because it's selling so well right now...

Imagine a Wii U console package that had the Wiimote instead of the Gamepad. It would instantly look different, the people who haven't been interested in the current packaging on store shelves, featuring the Gamepad, might become interested to pick one up, because it features the familiar Wiimote that everybody has seen. It wouldn't hurt that dropping the Gamepad from the retail package and replacing it with a Wiimote would allow Nintendo to drop the price by around 50 by itself, maybe even 100. Add in the factor that they might be planning a price drop in any case, you could easily be looking at a Wii U priced 199 with a Wiimote. That would be a huge difference, and it would signal to people that this is a console that can play Wiimote games. Unfortunately, the current Wii U packaging may leave people confused by not featuring the Wiimote, so some people might not know they can play Wii U games like New SMB U and Trine 2 with Wiimotes.

There's a huge problem with your proposal. What's going to distinguish the Wii U from the Wii at this point. There was at least the Gamepad...but now there's no distinction for the average consumer anymore.

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atlantis01

31. Posted:

I do not think Nintendo is going to ditch the Wii U because the moment Smash Brothers and Mario Kart come out it is going to explode. There are lots of other good games coming out this year, which will help, but I don't think it will be until next year that it'd truly take off. I could be wrong though and it could happen earlier with the release of Sonic, 3D World, and DK Tropical Freeze.

If they do drop it I would be crushed because I really love it so much more than the Wii. I was a big supporter of the Wii but it was not always the best. It was annoyingly hard to sometimes just to get the little hand sensor to come onto the screen to select a game. And then there were games like Skyward Sword and Metroid Prime Corruption that required you to wave your hands around too much and it was just annoying and hard and stupid and it made my arms hurt and gameplay really, really difficult.

I love the gamepad and I do not understand why it gets so much flak. I love how I can just select my game with a touch of a finger and I love how it is a map and I can select objects on it and I love how I can use it for off-tv play.

If they did drop Wii U I would continue to support Nintendo but I would be very shocked and saddened because like I said it's a damn good machine and it has damn good games. It's hard a rough launch but things will improve and people are stupid to question Nintendo. They've been around for long enough to know what they're doing.

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