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81. Posted:

3Dash wrote:

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That I sad right there 20 hours it must be a good game to take 20 hours to download

Just sayin', 20 hours to download a game =/= a good game.

It took me 20 hours to download Kid Icarus Uprising. :D :P

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82. Posted:

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[...] I have a 100mbps connection, [...]

Woah, dude, where can I get that? :O

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83. Posted:

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Nintendo's servers are incredibly slow. I have a 100mbps connection, so download speeds should be much, much shorter than they are now. I waited two hours for the Sonic-demo to download, for example. Download speed is just one of the many things why I won't be buying any retail-games from the eShop.

I have a 7mb/s connection, and it took me 3 hours to download and install that full game. The Wii U only goes up to 8.88 mb/s. Someone said here PS3 tops out at 26, and PC 44 or something earlier in the post.

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84. Posted:

Void wrote:

Kuribo wrote:

[...] I have a 100mbps connection, [...]

Woah, dude, where can I get that? :O

We should also not that no services use the entirety of that 100mb/s, especially since PC only tops out at 44mb/s(maybe more depending on the PC?). Netflix uses 3.8mb/s to stream HD movies, so you could stream Netflix at full quality for 26 devices, considering they are all also HD. I think games use 2.5-4 mb/s to play online.
There's kind of no point to get a higher mb/s rate unless you're running a business with multiple devices all at once, it's the same price as another companies lower speed, or it's the only option available.
We also have to look at whether the streamed/downloaded files are compressed. I've heard some PS3 files are compressed, so a 30GB game can be fit into a 15GB folder. This can alter the quality, but ultimately get you the game twice as fast.
So again, mb speed isn't everything. If I can download a 6GB Sonic Racing game in the same amount of time as a 2-3GB demo of the same game faster than 100mb/s, at 7mb/s, I'm pretty sure we know the extra $60 for 93mb/s worth of speed might be a waste.

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So again, mb speed isn't everything. If I can download a 6GB Sonic Racing game in the same amount of time as a 2-3GB demo of the same game faster than 100mb/s, at 7mb/s, I'm pretty sure we know the extra $60 for 93mb/s worth of speed might be a waste.

You're not a computer technician, are you?

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86. Posted:

Bankai wrote:

So again, mb speed isn't everything. If I can download a 6GB Sonic Racing game in the same amount of time as a 2-3GB demo of the same game faster than 100mb/s, at 7mb/s, I'm pretty sure we know the extra $60 for 93mb/s worth of speed might be a waste.

You're not a computer technician, are you?

Are you? I just look at rates and whether they're applicable. You can't use 100 mb/s, even on a PC.

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87. Posted:

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Alright, lets just give up because it's too difficult.
I can get just as fast of download speeds from my Wii U as PS3. Go fix your internet if it's that important to you.

I'am sorry to add fuel to the fire but this is not actually possible, the speed is throttled on nintendo's end, (sony is too btw just not so much) check here http://speedof.me/ and see. For arguments sake heres mine:

PC 44.62mbps
PS3 23.4 mbps
Wii U 8.88 mbps :(

Who'se your provider? I'm getting 1 Mb/s on my computer...G-d knows what my consoles get...

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88. Posted:

CanisWolfred wrote:

mozie wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

Alright, lets just give up because it's too difficult.
I can get just as fast of download speeds from my Wii U as PS3. Go fix your internet if it's that important to you.

I'am sorry to add fuel to the fire but this is not actually possible, the speed is throttled on nintendo's end, (sony is too btw just not so much) check here http://speedof.me/ and see. For arguments sake heres mine:

PC 44.62mbps
PS3 23.4 mbps
Wii U 8.88 mbps :(

Who'se your provider? I'm getting 1 Mb/s on my computer...G-d knows what my consoles get...

I just tried the link and did the test. My Wii U downloads at 1.49mb/s. I can download 6GB in 3 hours.

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89. Posted:

Remember. These tests are just reference, which could mean nothing. Who knows how many people are testing their connection all at once right now, the compression of that file, etc. There's way too many variables that affect this test to call it accurate.

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90. Posted:

SCAR392 wrote:

Bankai wrote:

So again, mb speed isn't everything. If I can download a 6GB Sonic Racing game in the same amount of time as a 2-3GB demo of the same game faster than 100mb/s, at 7mb/s, I'm pretty sure we know the extra $60 for 93mb/s worth of speed might be a waste.

You're not a computer technician, are you?

Are you? I just look at rates and whether they're applicable. You can't use 100 mb/s, even on a PC.

You can certainly get faster than 7mb/s though. So if someone has a PS3, Xbox, iPad, PC or, well, anything other than a Nintendo console, they will be downloading faster than your 7mb/s with a 100mb/s.

So really you are still paying for far better service.

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91. Posted:

i never download games. never. this isnt one of the primary reasons why, but it supports why i don't so i'll go with it.

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I understand, but some those numbers can mean nothing sometimes. If I were to pay for 100mb/s, and I'll only ever stream Netflix, it would be a waste. You might as well ask everyone on your whole block to pay $2 each to share one Wi-fi hotspot. That's exagerating, but any speed over 40mb/s is an overkill kinda. Things you had to download for 10+ minutes years ago, can be streamed to you instantly. We technically can stream 4K, 3D, and other content with what we have already intenet speed wise, even though those devices aren't out yet. I think if they ever stream Netflix with 4K, 3D, and 7.1 surround sound, it will reach 70mb/s minumum speed to get the ideal quality, but we're not 5 years in the future, so it doesn't matter.

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93. Posted:

Moral of the story: download speeds can vary at times of the day :P

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94. Posted:

CanisWolfred wrote:

mozie wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

Alright, lets just give up because it's too difficult.
I can get just as fast of download speeds from my Wii U as PS3. Go fix your internet if it's that important to you.

I'am sorry to add fuel to the fire but this is not actually possible, the speed is throttled on nintendo's end, (sony is too btw just not so much) check here http://speedof.me/ and see. For arguments sake heres mine:

PC 44.62mbps
PS3 23.4 mbps
Wii U 8.88 mbps :(

Who'se your provider? I'm getting 1 Mb/s on my computer...G-d knows what my consoles get...

I feel for you man I really do :( I'am with eircom (In Ireland) and got a free upgrade from 25 to 50mbps (cost €60 including unlimited download) 150mbps is the max with them at the moment but the cost isint worth it tbh.

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95. Posted:

Sony have also recognised that Disc's arent going anywhere and the problems with dl speeds.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/02/23/ps4-sony-sees-a-disc-ba...

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96. Posted:

Stupid question probably answered here: Wii U does NOT include the possibility to download the games and continue playing or doing stuff o even turn on the Wii U and retake the download from where it was befeore? Cause if not, Nintendo has totally failed to make decent online store. Imagine downloading a game that uses ALL the capacity of the Wii U discs.

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Stupid question probably answered here: Wii U does NOT include the possibility to download the games and continue playing or doing stuff o even turn on the Wii U and retake the download from where it was befeore? Cause if not, Nintendo has totally failed to make decent online store. Imagine downloading a game that uses ALL the capacity of the Wii U discs.

You can download while the Wii U is on and running other apps/games. It will resume where it left off, too. How is it bad that all the content is there? That's personally why I didn't like downloading games on PS3, because they compress the data. Fitting 15GB worth of data into a 10GB folder is not ideal. Quality is better than getting the game faster IMO.

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98. Posted:

SCAR392 wrote:

BenjaminRosa wrote:

Stupid question probably answered here: Wii U does NOT include the possibility to download the games and continue playing or doing stuff o even turn on the Wii U and retake the download from where it was befeore? Cause if not, Nintendo has totally failed to make decent online store. Imagine downloading a game that uses ALL the capacity of the Wii U discs.

You can download while the Wii U is on and running other apps/games. It will resume where it left off, too. How is it bad that all the content is there? That's personally why I didn't like downloading games on PS3, because they compress the data. Fitting 15GB worth of data into a 10GB folder is not ideal. Quality is better than getting the game faster IMO.

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Chrono_Cross wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

BenjaminRosa wrote:

Stupid question probably answered here: Wii U does NOT include the possibility to download the games and continue playing or doing stuff o even turn on the Wii U and retake the download from where it was befeore? Cause if not, Nintendo has totally failed to make decent online store. Imagine downloading a game that uses ALL the capacity of the Wii U discs.

You can download while the Wii U is on and running other apps/games. It will resume where it left off, too. How is it bad that all the content is there? That's personally why I didn't like downloading games on PS3, because they compress the data. Fitting 15GB worth of data into a 10GB folder is not ideal. Quality is better than getting the game faster IMO.

I swear you have no idea what you're talking about ever.

Did you read the post I was responding to? First of all, he had no idea it was possible to download games while running other software. Second, he didn't know it left off where it was stopped when you turn off your console. Lastly, the only services to compare it to are XBox Live and PSN. PSN does compress files to download faster. I know that for a fact.
It's like saying a Dolby sound decoder that outputs 5.1 is just as good as PCM 5.1. It's just not. The only thing better than PCM 5.1 is Dolby sound decoders that output 7.1, but even in that case, the only benefit is quantity, but PCM 7.1 is better than Dolby 7.1.

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100. Posted:

SCAR392 wrote:

Chrono_Cross wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

BenjaminRosa wrote:

Stupid question probably answered here: Wii U does NOT include the possibility to download the games and continue playing or doing stuff o even turn on the Wii U and retake the download from where it was befeore? Cause if not, Nintendo has totally failed to make decent online store. Imagine downloading a game that uses ALL the capacity of the Wii U discs.

You can download while the Wii U is on and running other apps/games. It will resume where it left off, too. How is it bad that all the content is there? That's personally why I didn't like downloading games on PS3, because they compress the data. Fitting 15GB worth of data into a 10GB folder is not ideal. Quality is better than getting the game faster IMO.

I swear you have no idea what you're talking about ever.

Did you read the post I was responding to? First of all, he had no idea it was possible to download games while running other software. Second, he didn't know it left off where it was stopped when you turn off your console. Lastly, the only services to compare it to are XBox Live and PSN. PSN does compress files to download faster. I know that for a fact.
It's like saying a Dolby sound decoder that outputs 5.1 is just as good as PCM 5.1. It's just not. The only thing better than PCM 5.1 is Dolby sound decoders that output 7.1, but even in that case, the only benefit is quantity, but PCM 7.1 is better than Dolby 7.1.

If you download a game off the PSN it is exactly the same as if you bought it on a disc.

Exactly the same. There is no loss of quality. At all. Fact.

That's what Chrono was calling you on. And fair to do so, too. You really need to stop spreading utter nonsense before someone takes you seriously and believes one of your "thoughts" and you become responsible for spreading misinformation into the world.

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