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ThanosReXXX

@ReaderRagfish Okay, let me see what I can come up with.
I'll skip multi-player brawlers and fighting games, seeing as you've already got the best of those covered, although I do have to mention Project Justice, as another good contender in the fighting genre...

As for the rest of the categories: here we go, and in no particular order, so I guess you'll just have to check out some videos of these titles, if you'd like to know more about them.

Oh, and mind you: these are my OWN recommendations, so they aren't in any way based upon any online reviews, so don't expect all of them to get the highest grades in official ratings, but I enjoyed them nonetheless.

Racing/simulation: Metropolis Street Racer 1 & 2, Daytona USA, Sega Rally 2, Hydro Thunder, 4 Wheel Thunder, Tokyo Xtreme Racer 1 & 2, F355 Challenge, Sega GT, V-Rally 2 Championship Edition, Test Drive Le Mans, TrickStyle, Crazy Taxi 1 & 2, Looney Tunes Space Race, Wacky Races, Vanishing Point, Killer Loop, F-1 World Grand Prix, Monaco Grand Prix, Redline Racer, Sega Rally Championship, F1 Racing Championship, Flag to Flag Racing, TNN Motorsports Hardcore Heat, San Francisco Rush 2049, Speed Devils, Demolition Racer, Star Wars Episode I: Racer, Sno-Cross Championship Racing

RPG: Skies of Arcadia, Grandia II, Evolution 1 & 2, Time Stalkers, Armada, Dragonriders: Chronicles of Pern

Action RPG: Berserk, Shenmue 1 & 2, Silver, Record of Lodoss War, E.G.G. (Elemental Gimmick Gear)

Horror/survival: any of the Resident Evil games, Dino Crisis 1 & 2, Illbleed, Blue Stinger, D2

Life simulation: Lack of Love, Seventh Cross: Evolution, Seaman

Vertical/horizontal shooters: Ikaruga, Gunbird 1 & 2, Gigawing 1 & 2, Mars Matrix, Psyvariar 2, Bangai-O, Triggerheart Exelica, Border Down, Last Hope, Under Defeat

Multi-directional/3D shooters: Rez, Outtrigger, Heavy Metal Geomatrix, Charge 'n Blast, Silent Scope, Virtua Cop 2, House of the Dead 2, Cannon Spike, Quake III Arena, Zero Gunner 2, Alien Front Online

Action/adventure: Jet Set Radio, Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, Ecco the Dolphin, Slave Zero, Cyber Troopers: Virtual-On Oratorio Tangram, Omikron: The Nomad Soul, Maken X, Head Hunter, Spawn: in the Demon's Hand, Legacy Of Kain Soul Reaver 2, Urban Chaos

Rythm games: Samba de Amigo, Space Channel 5 1 & 2.

Platformers: Rayman 2, Super Magnetic Neo, Donald Duck Quack Attack.

Puzzle: Bust-a-Move 4, Puyo Puyo Fever, Wetrix, Bomberman Online

Flight sims/arcade flying games: Aerowings 1 & 2 (second game being the better one), Airforce Delta (aka Deadly Skies in Europe), Aero Dancing i, Iron Aces, Starlancer

Sports: Virtua Tennis 2, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2, Cool Boarders Burrrn!, NHL 2K, NFL Blitz 2000, NBA 2K2, Ready 2 Rumble Boxing, WWF Attitude, WWF Royal Rumble, ECW Hardcore Revolution, Sega Sports Jam, Extreme Sports, Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX, Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX, Sega WorldWide Soccer 2000 Euro Edition, Virtua Striker 2, Sega Bass Fishing, Sega Marine Fishing

And then there's the unreleased games I previously mentioned, which can be relatively easily found with a bit of Googling or torrent searching:

Propeller Arena
Millenium Racer: Y2K Fighters
Hellgate
Ballbreakers aka MoHo
Flintstones Viva Rock Vegas
PBA Bowling
Geist Force
Toejam and Earl 3
Half Life Gold
Half Life Blue Shift Expansion Pack
Max Steel Covert Missions

And as for top 20-something online lists, I personally like and can agree with these:
http://www.racketboy.com/retro/best-undiscovered-sega-dreamca...
https://www.denofgeek.com/games/sega-dreamcast/25026/the-top-...

Well, that oughta keep you busy for a while. If I remember any others, I'll give you a heads up...

EDIT:
Here's a pretty decent Dreamcast-related YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaBV1CKDjQmc-CKiMEFxsAA
They even do live streaming events to this day. Last night they did a Worms World Party live stream.

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ThanosReXXX

@BlueOcean Well, there was no need for any other examples, since the topic was Jet Set Radio. And no emulator I know could make a difference of more than half a Gigabyte, so if that would be due to a pack-in emulator, then that's one big-@ss program, for sure....

EDIT:
I did also link to the 360 version, in case you didn't notice

@Delibheel Mine's... well, mine's pretty clear, since I never change names. You're welcome to add me. And just FYI: even if you don't chat or play with other gamers in your list, there are games, such as the Forza Horizon series, that'll allow you to share points with people that are in your friends list. So, at no cost to me, you'll also get a percentage of points from me if I win races, and you can add another player to your team, and then you all get the goodies.

So, it's not sharing the money, because the actual player keeps the entire price, it's just that a percentage is doubled, and then divided between crew members. Once the connection is made, you'll also see the other's cars driving around in your game.

Don't know if there's any other games that work in that way, but there probably are.

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Eel

Interesting. I don’t really play that one game, but that’s an interesting system nonetheless. Sounds like a nice incentive to have friends that play it, kinda like playing together without playing together.

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ThanosReXXX

@DarthNocturnal Oh really? So they stopped doing that after Forza Horizon 3? That's a shame. It was a nice feature to share amongst friends.

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Dezzy

@NEStalgia

I don't think FF13 was the best selling. Every bit of information I can find says FF7 was the best selling, at around 10 million on PS1.
FF13 was close to 2nd though with around 8 million overall, which was about the same as FFX.
FF15 has since overtaken that to become the 2nd best selling in the series.
These are just the numbers for the initial releases though. Obviously everything's been released several times now.

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Zuljaras

Quick question. I am extremely interested in Backwards compatibility. I know many games run way better on the One than on 360. However I want to know if there is a difference with the One X than the One of One S?

Does the X give better performance than the other 2 models in terms of backwards compatibility? I know some games run worse on One than on the 360 because of reasons

So anyone care to share? Thanks in advance!

TuVictus

@Zuljaras You'll probably get a very long and detailed answer, but yeah, the One X is able to play a number of games at "enhanced" performance when compared to the One S/360 itself. There are lists online that give you a rundown of which games benefit from the X's power

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ThanosReXXX

@DarthNocturnal Well, that's some lousy trade-off then, seeing as online play was already there, so there's always been the ability to see other players online. The nice thing about Drivatars was of course the bonus credits and the option to race them, even if the gamers that the cars belonged to weren't online themselves.

@Zuljaras Besides the Xbox One X enhanced titles, there are actually many titles that run better on the X, simply due to the more powerful hardware. An example that I often mention of late, is original Xbox game Black. It is not specifically labeled as Xbox One X enhanced (correction: it actually IS), but while it runs at 4x the resolution on Xbox One S, it runs at 8x the resolution on Xbox One X.

And a lot of Xbox 360 games on Xbox One X are either running more stable in higher resolutions, or with additional effects, and also very nice: considerably faster loading times. Not all titles, mind you, but enough of them for you to notice the difference. And then there's a select list of true Xbox One X enhanced OG Xbox and Xbox 360 titles, which can be found here:
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/xbox-one/xbox-one-x-enhanced...

And here's a couple of good articles and videos on the subject in general:
https://www.usgamer.net/articles/xbox-one-x-enhanced-backward...
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-xbox-o...
https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-one-x-backward-compatibility

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ThanosReXXX

@ReaderRagfish Hahaha...
Well, I did say I know practically all of them, so all I had to do is grab my own list of games, and do some memory digging concerning the good or worthy titles. Back when I found out I had a first gen Dreamcast,
I simply downloaded and tried just about everything.

With the list I compiled for you, you've got most, if not all of the worthwhile titles listed and categorized.
Did take me quite a while, but I actually enjoyed making it, because it was a nice trip down memory lane...

EDIT:
And trust me, this is far from the entire list. The amount of games they've churned out for the system in the period of a little over two years that it was commercially available across all regions, is truly astounding...

If you want to use the list for future reference, you might wanna store or copy it, though, seeing as between me and other text wall creators, it might get buried underneath a ton of new pages in next to no time....

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Dezzy

Zuljaras wrote:

Does the X give better performance than the other 2 models in terms of backwards compatibility? I know some games run worse on One than on the 360 because of reasons

Yep. There are some games that have enhanced patches for the X, so you can get stuff like 4K resolutions.
The rest of the games will get a performance boost up that probably maxes the framerate out its highest possible allowed by the game.
So a game that's got a max 30fps lock will probably get 30fps constantly on the X, whereas many games will dip below 30fps on the base Xbone.

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Anti-Matter

@ThanosReXXX
I still confused about Backward Compatibility.
Why can Nintendo make their machines Full BC with their previous machine (Wii,
Wii U, GBA, NDS, 3DS) but Microsoft make their machines Partial BC, NOT full BC ?

Anti-Matter

ThanosReXXX

@Anti-Matter Nothing to be confused about: Nintendo's machines are LITERALLY backward compatible hardware-wise, while Microsoft uses emulators, simply because they moved to completely different hardware (they went from PowerPC to x86 technology), so the old games aren't natively compatible with the new hardware.

Nintendo simply put a so-called 'SoC' or System on a Chip in their hardware, so that software from previous systems actually CAN be run natively. The Wii for example, as you might now, has hardware support for the GameCube on the motherboard of the console.

But regardless of that all: Microsoft currently offers well over 500 titles on backward compatibility, so who cares that it isn't ALL titles, seeing as there's plenty to choose from already, and they're still adding new titles almost every month, so in the end, the list will easily be 750 or more titles.

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Anti-Matter

@ThanosReXXX
But, the 750 BC games are Not Dance Dance Revolution games (Ultramix 1 - 4 & Universe 1 - 3) / Kinect games / All Kids games.
I don't like ALL the BC on Xbox1 so far (Except FF XIII that a little bit interesting).

Anti-Matter

ThanosReXXX

@Anti-Matter Yeah... well, no offense, but that's mostly just your problem. I think it's pretty safe to say that most of us don't have a problem with that at all. Personally, I hate jumping around on a dance mat or swinging my arms around in Just Dance. In my opinion, that's just no game for a grown up man, nor is it for a person like me.

I can still enjoy a bit of Wii Sports/Wii Sports Resorts, or some other games where motion controls are implemented correctly, but no dance games for me. I'm 48, so I'm well past my jumping around days...

And to be fair: I already suspected it was about those games, but that wasn't your question. Microsoft is putting in a LOT of effort, where backward compatibility is concerned, and WAY more than the other two companies, but they still can't satisfy everyone, so people with extreme, odd, or specialist tastes will probably never find anything to their liking.

Most of the popular games are compatible, and even quite a few games that none of us, or at least only few of us, ever expected to be added to the backward compatibility list.

And Nintendo has now also moved on, seeing as the Switch can also only use emulation, so there's no backward compatibility on there either anymore, or at least not like it used to be, so in that respect, all consoles are now equal.

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ThanosReXXX

@DarthNocturnal True, that.

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NEStalgia

@Dezzy i think 13 was the best selling at launch. The long tail dropped of a cliff though which sank it below 7 by the end. 15.... No clue why that's winning....

@Zuljaras absolutely. I'm not the list guy, I'm the descriptions guy, so thanos and blue probably have more specifics for you, but generally, but here's the ms page for the 25 x1x enhanced 360/og games. Imo this list is incomplete. Mass effect 1 is clearly enhanced but i don't see it here. 1x enhanced games tend to have the pc version of the games rather than the og 360 version from what i can tell. It at least very similar to it.

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/backward-compatibility

NEStalgia

NEStalgia

Oops this whole extra page appeared after i last refreshed... Oh well, my reply is redundant.

@Anti-Matter yeah, like thanos said, basically those Nintendo systems either had additional hardware inside that was basically the cpu/gpu of the old system inside the machine, or the hardware was the same inside between generations, just a faster version in the newer machine. Same with Playstation, ps3 (at launch) literally had the guts of a ps2 inside it as well as the ps3 hardware.... But later they removed that extra hardware in New models to cut costs.

But this current generation saw ms and ps switch from the old architecture to PC architecture, and Nintendo changed from GameCube architecture they've used on gcn/wii/wiiu to ARM (mobile) architecture..... It's wholly incompatible with the old games.

It's not possible to run the old and new hardware inside..... Too different, too hot, too much power use. And you can't just run the old games on the new architecture. So to do bc, you have to use an emulator like Virtual Console, and possible rebuild parts of the game like a remaster. Thus x1 needs each game to be individually be emulated with help from the developers/publishers that in the assets. Ps3 is a weird propriety architecture that takes a lot of power to emulate, so ps4 couldn't emulate any ps3 games... Maybe ps5 will, maybe not. And switch needs to run on a battery, so emulating wiiu games, and maybe even gcn. It's out of the question.... Plus no disc drive, even if it could

NEStalgia

Dezzy

NEStalgia wrote:

15.... No clue why that's winning....

It reviewed fairly well, it's an open world game, it's action rather than turn-based, it looks very nice.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Haha, late to the party indeed. I already posted that list that you linked to as well.
And it's not so much the PC versions that are now released on the Xbox One X, but from what I understood it's just the core Xbox/Xbox 360 game, except with the higher resolution assets, which are either from the co-developed versions, or indeed from the PC version, so it's more like a hybrid, basically.

And then there's of course additional stuff added, such as HDR and so on, stuff that wasn't even available in PC versions of those games back then, so that's console-specific for the X.

@ReaderRagfish Forgot to mention this one:

Super Runabout, a game you might like, if you also like/enjoyed the Crazy Taxi games. Instead of just various cars for taxis, this game has all kinds of different vehicles, such as pick up trucks, police cars, muscle cars, and scooters, and has all kinds of different missions.

EDIT:
And contrary to Crazy Taxi, it also has actual damage models, that will affect your vehicle.

The guy playing it in the video is really bad at it, but it'll at least give you an idea of the gameplay and so on.

Oh, and if you like mindless 3D brawlers in the vein of Final Fight, then you might also want to give this one a go:

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ThanosReXXX

@ReaderRagfish Haha, yeah, nice and cheesy. Kinda made me think of the "voice acting" in House of the Dead, which is arguably even worse. I guess bad voice acting simply was a thing in horror-related games back then...

Phew... a top 5....

I specifically went out of my way NOT to make one of those, simply because I wouldn't be able to choose in some genres, and I honestly enjoyed all the games I mentioned, otherwise I wouldn't even have put them in the list.

I could of course have added videos or links to videos for each game, but I kinda figured my comment might inspire you to do so yourself.

Oh, well. Guess now I'm here, I might as well give it a go, and although I don't know if I'll get to a top 5 for each genre, I'll at least name the must-haves, in my opinion, of course.

For some genres that I mentioned as one group, such as racing sims and arcade racers, that will obviously mean that I'll split them up again, otherwise you'll miss too many good games...

So, let's go, then:
(disclaimer: I'll try to make top 5's whenever possible, but it might be 6 (or 7) sometimes, and I'll mention series with two games as one, since either of them will be good. And lastly, they will still be in no particular order, so you can consider all of them worthy of your attention)

Racing simulation:
Metropolis Street Racer 1 & 2
F355 Challenge
Tokyo Xtreme Racer 1 & 2
V-Rally 2 Championship Edition
Test Drive Le Mans

Arcade racers:
Daytona USA
Hydro Thunder
4 Wheel Thunder
TrickStyle
Crazy Taxi 1 & 2
Speed Devils
Vanishing Point

Cartoon racers:
Looney Tunes Space Race
Wacky Races

RPG:
Skies of Arcadia
Grandia II
Evolution 1 & 2
Time Stalkers
Armada
Dragonriders: Chronicles of Pern

Action RPG:
Berserk
Shenmue 1 & 2
Silver
Record of Lodoss War
E.G.G. (Elemental Gimmick Gear)

Horror/survival:
any of the Resident Evil games
Dino Crisis 1 & 2
Illbleed
Blue Stinger
D2

Life simulation:
Lack of Love
Seventh Cross: Evolution
Seaman

Vertical/horizontal shooters:
Ikaruga
Gunbird 1 & 2
Gigawing 1 & 2
Border Down
Last Hope
Under Defeat

Multi-directional shooters:
Heavy Metal Geomatrix
Charge 'n Blast
Zero Gunner 2

3D shooters:
Alien Front Online
Cannon Spike
Outtrigger
Rez
Quake III Arena
Silent Scope

Action adventure:
Jet Set Radio
Sonic Adventure 1 & 2
Ecco the Dolphin
Slave Zero
Headhunter
Legacy Of Kain: Soul Reaver 2
Urban Chaos

Rythm games:
Samba de Amigo
Space Channel 5 1 & 2

Platformers:
Rayman 2
Super Magnetic Neo
Donald Duck Quack Attack

Puzzle:
Bust-a-Move 4
Puyo Puyo Fever
Wetrix
Bomberman Online

Flight sims/arcade flying games:
Aerowings 1 & 2 (second game being the better one)
Airforce Delta (aka Deadly Skies in Europe)
Aero Dancing i
Iron Aces
Starlancer

Sports:
Virtua Tennis 2
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2
NFL Blitz 2000
NBA 2K2
Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX

Arcade Sports games:
Virtua Striker 2
Ready 2 Rumble Boxing
Sega Sports Jam
Extreme Sports
Sega Marine Fishing

And the unreleased games:
Propeller Arena
Hellgate
Ballbreakers aka MoHo
Flintstones Viva Rock Vegas
Toejam and Earl 3
Half Life Gold

Still, I do have to emphasize again, that the games I've now removed, are ALSO worth looking over.
And seeing as you can practically download all of them for free, the only effort you'll have to put in it, is check out the relevant video's, buy some empty cd's, download the games and burn them.

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