Topic: Why doesn’t Switch have achievements yet?

Yes but we can't really answer the question properly, since we aren't Nintendo .... You're about the only one that seems to want achievements on Switch, though

@NNGaming900 Well, if you don't see that, then it's going to be pretty hard to discuss it in any logical or relatively neutral/objective way, because you've already made your mind up that they're a great and perhaps even necessary addition.

The thing is, if a game is already complete and already HAS replay value all of its own accord, such as the examples that I mentioned, which are part of the CORE mechanics of a game, and as such not extra features added on, which is what achievements are, then you just don't NEED these extra bits tacked on.

They artificially prolong your game time, often with no real value other than improving your achievement score itself. It could therefore also be argued that if you would have to have these achievements in a game to keep you playing them, then either the developer of the game hasn't made a really good or enticing game, or you are simply too easily bored by the game itself, and need artificial hand-holding to make you feel like you're getting more value out of it, so in that way, it definitely isn't a natural evolution. It's basically just an app/tracker, that's bolted on for the score card hunters.

So, to answer your closing question: why not add achievements? Because the incentive to replay a game to get those 100 coins, if you wish to do so, is already incorporated in the game itself. Getting those already IS the achievement.

I don't need an extra achievement counter to tell me that I managed to get all the coins, because there's probably already a coin counter in the game itself. So, it's basically tracking what is already being tracked, and as such, it's an unnecessary extra. All you get is points for your "gamer card" aka the digital representation of your self-worth.

Ooh, look at how good I am: I got all the achievements in this game...

We older gamers just went for the highest scores and put our initials in the game. No gamer card needed whatsoever.

@BruceCM @ThanosReXXX Didn’t mean to offend or upset you guys or anything like that, I hope I didn’t come across as if the Switch NEEDED an extra addiction, because trust me the Switch is already PERFECT in every way and certainly doesn’t NEED achievement support or even party chat or any other addiction at all for that matter. I am truly sorry for the offence that I have caused here, with that being said I for one would still LOVE to earn achievements for catching them all in Pokemon or getting 100 first places. Achievements add some incentive towards getting 100% for a game or doing a crazy challenge you wouldn’t have done otherwise, maybe I lack the IMAGINATION to come up with a list of my own achievements in my head l, but for a lot of us things like achievements and party chat are the reasons why we get third party games on different platforms as we get more to do and more social elements that way. I’m sorry to be such an entitled YOUTH and want extra features to boost my ego and self worth xoxo

@ThanosReXXX I find that the ones that make such a big deal out of achievements is the younger generation and that's due to them needing validation for everything but that's cause they come from the everyone is a winner here's your trophy generation.

@NNGaming900 A game is 100% when you beat the story or every level not because you can blow up 50 cars in 5 minutes that has no bearing to the storyline.

I'm not offended, @NNGaming900.... Just nothing more to add to this

To answer the OP question:

The Switch doesn't have achievements be ause the worth of a game, it's completion, or your value for playing it is based on the game software itself, not the OS used to play it.

So far this thread is not disappointing.

@Tasuki Same issue. After garnering over 180k gamerscore on xbox's architecture, I can expertly attest that there's some junk cheevos that outweigh ones that reward creative play.

@NNGaming900 Don't worry, I'm not upset at all, but even though I own several generations of Xboxes besides all my Nintendo consoles, I personally simply don't feel that achievements add all that much, especially if you get them for "walk over here" or "tutorial completed", and there are thousands of examples of achievements that do just that.

As for the examples you named: if you can come up with those on your own, then you can also do them on your own in a game, without having to get extra gamer points for them. 100 percenting a game will already get you a better score anyways. And like @Tasuki said, there's just too much going on with achievements that doesn't have anything to do with the game or story of the game at all.

In the beginning, with my Xbox 360, I actually tried to get into the whole achievement hunting thing, but in the end, it became more of a frustration than something that I liked to do, so I simply stopped.

So, to come back to the original question of this thread: why doesn't the Switch have achievements yet?

Well, probably because Nintendo themselves also recognize this point that you don't need an extra points counter bolted on to make a game better or provide more longevity. That can just as easily be achieved by making the game itself better and/or more addictive, so you'll want to keep playing regardless.

@Tasuki Yup, pretty much that. A lot of them probably never played on systems that didn't have achievements or trophies, so to them, it's just always been part of the gaming environment, which to them makes Nintendo stand out as the offender.

@NNGaming900 I Understand Where You Are Coming From I See Alot Of People Saying That The Switch Doesn't Need Achievements Maybe Not But It Would Still Be Nice To At Least Have The Option For Those That Do Want Them.

@NNGaming900
I don't need achievement or trophies.
It's up to the player to complete the game until 100% or not.
Trophies don't give me anything (Invicibility in game, Unlimited money, Super modding, etc) so why should i care ?
It just looks like a notification after doing something.

@Tasuki @ThanosReXXX If working towards something to earn like achievements is seeking validation, then levelling up in an RPG must be looking for validation too, or getting a high score or getting 100%. You are working and grinding towards something, whether that’s earning achievements or levelling up ect. If you guys are much older and believe that achievements are for kiddies then why do you play and feel so strongly about a system which is very clearly aimed at a very young audience? Also @ThanosReXXX you before mentioned back in your day you were happy with a high score, was that seeking validation too? I didn’t realise you older generation guys felt that it’s such a taboo thing to did ask for something that has been on other platforms for well over a decade and is loved by many. What about party chat, do you guys think Nintendo shouldn’t add that either?

@Anti-Matter So if you don’t like a certain game does that mean a sequel should never be released?

I’d have to agree with most on Trophies/achievements. They are a good option but I don’t see it add much to the game.
Take super Mario odyssey.
Throw your hat 10000 times and you get stars or jump this many times, throw this throw that. Same with the arms and other games. Even getting 900 korok seeds is a achievement like no other and you get a poo korok seed to show off

Even on PlayStation street fighter 4, do 15000 shinku hadukens and you get a trophy. Win 5000 online games and you get a trophy.

@Areus I get the impression that quite a few just hate it when someone brings up something that Switch doesn’t yet have compared to other platforms which I find pretty amusing to say the least. If they did have achievement support then people who are interested can use it, those who really don’t care can just ignore it, there is no way that can be seen as a negative for anyone but fanboys will be fanboys lol

@Haruki_NLI But how is adding more challenges to those games a bad thing? They could even do something like adding new avatar pictures if you get all achievements for a certain game like they did on the Xbox 360

@NNGaming900 I wouldn’t say it’s a negative. It’s another option to have and options are good for some one

@1UP_MARIO By half of the offended responses here you’d think I’d just offended their ancestors or something 😂 If they added it then everyone is a winner, those who want it get it and those who don’t care for it don’t have to use it