@JackEatsSparrows there'll be a die shrink for the soc to be more power efficient and a smaller switch would have a less power hungry screen. So no battwry life would not be a problem.
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I can't really agree with you:
A supossed Tegra X1 chip built with 10 nm technology would in fact generate less heat and consume less power, but:
-The difference would not be enough for allowing to reduce the size of the batery in a noticeable amount. Remember that there are several other components consuming power, for example the screens are always responsable fro a high percentage of portable devices power consumption. Nintendo could look for a less power hungry screen, OLED technology for example, but it would be more expensive.
-The fan is already quite small, the limiting factor here is that you need to leave free space for the air to move out of the device.
-And last but not least: as far as I know, Tegra X1 is currently only available on 20 nm technology. It is a SOC that already is some years old, and I wouldn't expect Nvidia to do again all the layout and screening process and spend all the money that would be needed for manufacturing the SOC under a new technology. Even if they do, the result would be a more expensive SOC, as 10 nm manufactuing process is more expensive than 20 nm.
So, although I agree with you on the idea that Nintendo is going to release a new version of the Switch, that will be handheld only, I don't think that the main factor regarding size reduction of the device will be the manufacturing technology of the SOC.
@JackEatsSparrows yes but still kinda bulky for one. Its beem successful but has not really caught on with kids. Plus 3ds is performing below projections as confirmed today. Nintendo had to slash thier 3ds forecast in half today. Its time for a proper replacement.
The Switch is actually built on 20 nm technology. The latest iPhone is on 7 nm. The latest iPhone to use 20 nm is the iPhone 6. In other words, there is a lot of room to make a smaller Switch. If they use a 10 nm process, then it would generate a significantly amount less heat, requiring a smaller fan. And the power consumption would be less, requiring a smaller battery. A Switch with the size and form factor of the PS Vita would probably be possible.
The only thing I would be concerned about is game compatibility if it doesn't have joycons.
Game copies sold between September 30th-December 31st:
Kirby Star Allies: .32 million (2.1 million →2.42 million)
Mario Tennis Aces: .37 million (2.16 million→2.53 million)
1 2 Switch: .22 million (2.64 million→2.86 million)
Super Mario Party: 5.30 million (0→5.30 million)
Splatoon 2: .80 million (7.47 million→ 8.27)
PLG: 10 million (0→10 million)
TLOZ: BOTW: 1.4 million (10.28 million →11.68 million)
Smash Ultimate: 12.08 million (0→12.08 million)
Super Mario Odyssey: 1.59 million (12.17 million→13.76 million)
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: 3.31 million (11.71 million→15.02 million)
@cambotero this is my thinking. If they want to significantly reduce cost for an handheld, it should use another chipset. Which probably won't make it hardware compatible.
Mobile is their entry point for young kids. Switch and Mobile are their two pillars.
Most likely scenario is that they release what's essentially their own version of an iPod Touch that will play microtransaction-free versions of their mobile titles. It will also have an app that plays GB/GBC games and that Game Boy grip that they patented will come with it. A Switch version of the GB/GBC app will launch later in the year for NSO subscribers.
They're not launching a completely new dedicated handheld.
I highly doubt Nintendo would release a handheld that isn't an actual handheld console. I see a 3DS successor or a Switch revision, but definitely not some Nintendo-app-only phone thing
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We had 2ds and 3ds. Most manufacturers in android release like 20 phones a year. We will be fine. Stop obssessing over it making sense with the name or not.
Sorry, but comparing the cell phone market to the video game market isn't very well suited.
We had 2ds come about because 3ds sales kept lagging and 3d functionality wasn't well utilized overall. there simply wasnt enough of a price/value over the existing DSi/Lite for consumers. Considering that the Switch continues to move units and software, what really would be the point of a smaller unit with less features?
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I can't really agree with you:
A supossed Tegra X1 chip built with 10 nm technology would in fact generate less heat and consume less power, but:
-The difference would not be enough for allowing to reduce the size of the batery in a noticeable amount. Remember that there are several other components consuming power, for example the screens are always responsable fro a high percentage of portable devices power consumption. Nintendo could look for a less power hungry screen, OLED technology for example, but it would be more expensive.
-The fan is already quite small, the limiting factor here is that you need to leave free space for the air to move out of the device.
-And last but not least: as far as I know, Tegra X1 is currently only available on 20 nm technology. It is a SOC that already is some years old, and I wouldn't expect Nvidia to do again all the layout and screening process and spend all the money that would be needed for manufacturing the SOC under a new technology. Even if they do, the result would be a more expensive SOC, as 10 nm manufactuing process is more expensive than 20 nm.
So, although I agree with you on the idea that Nintendo is going to release a new version of the Switch, that will be handheld only, I don't think that the main factor regarding size reduction of the device will be the manufacturing technology of the SOC.
1. Of course I also meant such a device would have a smaller screen, probably 5" like the PS Vita.
2. Nintendo is working closely with Nvidia now that the Switch is successful. You have to remember that the Tegra line of chips was a failure before the Switch. It was supposed to be used in higher performance tablets and set top boxes like the Shield, but it never took off. Now that the Nintendo Switch is successful, Nvidia will be very willing to either provide a shrunk down X1 chip for a Switch Slim, or a higher performing chip for a Switch Pro.
3. The 10 nm process if of course more expensive, but it also becomes cheaper with time. A reasonable time span might be that in late 2020 we will see either a Switch Slim or a Switch Pro. I'm guessing it will depend on what the competition is doing. If Sony release PS5 in 2020 Nintendo probably don't want to be left behind, and will release a next gen Switch Pro.
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