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NEStalgia

@Cobalt 's posts are making sense. I really need more coffee.............

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NintendoByNature

@ReaderRagfish I think that's what's happening. The mini consoles were holding back classic content on the switch. At the very minimum, I think we'll at least start to get snes games now. Maybe not n64 right since I still think they'll do a n64 classic.

Edit: I misread your comment. I think we will be getting more minis in the future. But I'm hoping with dropping support of snes classic that means we get those games on switch

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Octane

I don't think the number of people willing to double dip is that big to warrant a delayed release. There are also plenty of people who will have forgotten about a game when it does release on their platform of choice. Remember Rise of the Tomb Raider?

Let's not forget that the Switch is fundamentally a different machine. Engines need to be ported if it doesn't run on something standard like UE or Unity. And big file sizes don't work on Switch either, so it requires a lot more compression as well. Why do you think that ports like Dark Souls Remastered were outsourced instead of developed by the same studio? PC, PS4 and Xbox are very close, so that's essentially making one version that covers those three platforms, and a separate version for the Switch. Don't get me wrong, the Switch is doing well, but when the choice is between focusing on Switch or other three, I think the latter three platforms will get priority.

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HobbitGamer

@subpopz Yeah, I’m hoping that somewhere in a meeting somebody broached the thought that if these platforms are supported more through NSO instead of a standalone product, it would give added value to NSO. They’re not exactly growing a Switch consumer base by continuing the mini product line. Obviously there’s nothing preventing Switch owners from buying them, but consumer money spent on an SNES could be spent on a software title and a year of NSO if they went that route.
I think the NES and SNES minis were just a stopgap to maintain brand recognition in a hardware sense, and a relatively safe bet on a product with low investment and higher than average return (for hardware).

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gcunit

This minis were very effective at raising Nintendo's profile and kudos in preparation for NSO. They've done their job for now but it's time for them to make way for NSO.

Nintendo doesn't want to shoot its whole load of legacy content in one go. Teasing it out helps maintain interest/publicity in the NSO service. Spunk the whole lot of in one go and then where can they go?

If NSO fails to get the takeup Nintendo is looking for then maybe the minis will return from time to time. But expect it to be limited each time, for hype purposes.

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NEStalgia

@HobbitGamer @gcunit Yeah, remember when they did the NES mini the effectively had no console for sale. They acknowledged the WiiU was sunset, dropped it from all promotional advertising, and while 3DS was still a great seller it was clearly past it's zenith. They needed hardware for that holiday to keep excitement up, and that was it.

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LetsGoSwitch

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Link-Hero

It would be really upsetting if Nintendo only sticks with NES titles throughout the Switch's life. I'm sorry people who are nostalgic for that system, but besides a small decent amount of titles, a lot of games for it have aged poorly. Switch's online service will only be worth it if they include the SNES.

I'm sure Nintendo will add in the SNES eventually, but it just probably won't happen for at least another year or two. It would be a poor business decision if they didn't.

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EvilLucario

I just wonder how the indie success would have turned out if Nintendo just unleashed their entire catalog into the Switch Day 1. It probably wouldn't have driven this much indie games on the eShop. So something had to give I suppose.

I would love to play Super Metroid on my Switch eventually, though.

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gcunit

My guess is SNES games will come when the service hits 12 months... and coincidentally increases in price by a few quid.

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ReaderRagfish

We still don't know what games will be added in January. Coincidence? Maybe.

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PikPi

Honestly, with how they handle alot of the NSO stuff, it wouldn't surprise me if the only reason they're so vague is literally just because they have no clue at the moment either.

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NEStalgia

@EvilLucario I said yesterday that I think defending the indies is half of the reason. I'm not sure that's a good thing. And it makes me actively resent the success of indies if I can't play actual classic games I want to play just to make it easier for indies to sell their dozens of late to the party clones of it.

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EvilLucario

@NEStalgia Yeah, it's a bit of a catch-22 though. If you don't release these games, you won't appeal to your long-time or new fans who want to dig into your catalog... but you also appeal to indies who find a gold mine to make their own games to put on there. If you do release these games en masse, you stuff out most indie support while also catering to the fans, while you may not get as much money from just flat-out releasing them compared to drip-feeding (although I'm not sure drip-feeding works with a subscription).

It's a tough situation imo. Going on selfish reasons I would love to be able to instantly play my SNES games wherever I want, but then I think about indies and how much support they give and I'm here feeling a bit conflicted again.

Idk. We'll see how it all turns out in the next few years.

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Grumblevolcano

@ReaderRagfish Probably that they'll announce the next few months of NES games in a Direct. Whether late December or early January, one has to be coming soon.

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kkslider5552000

To be fair, the NES games are an addition most people don't care about and literally everything else about Nintendo Switch Online should be the focus instead. (not that they can't do both but if you have to choose...)

But in news about games from actually this century, apparently Gris blew up huh? It is literally the top trend of Twitter right now, so it clearly grabbed everyone's attention.

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ReaderRagfish

@kkslider5552000 Gris looks like just another one of those games I'll ignore while everyone else praises it. Those kinds of games have just never appealed to me.

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NEStalgia

@EvilLucario To a degree you're right, but the catch is this: If the new games are only making money because the old games people want more aren't made available, not only does that mean the new games only succeed as a temporary filler for the actual content people want to buy, and are probably inferior if so, but it also creates a market of restricting content to intentionally create an artificial market for newer, but inferior products to succeed. That's a bad precedent.

Imagine if Gone With the Wind and The Godfather were restricted from sale in the current market to ensure more people watch Wonderwoman and Bumblebee?

Are the indies really deserving of that success if they can't sell well when they are competing against 25 year old games? That might be more a testament to how a lot of indies are getting a free pass for relatively mediocre quality simply because they remind people of other games they like more but can't get. It might be a great weeding out to see which indies actually sell on their own based on a good game rather than "well, it's close enough to Super Contra, I guess."

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@kkslider5552000 Which would be fine if they weren't officially making statements that say SNES Mini will be discontinued, please buy NSO that doesn't have SNES games to play these classics.....

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Grumblevolcano

@NEStalgia Nah, Nintendo games vs. indie games is no different from when you hear about people who say music died after the 90s. Doesn't matter how good the indie games is, they'll generally ignore it if they have the choice. Take away that choice and maybe they'll open up.

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