I simply cannot see the logic or validity in such a timeline, there are TWO timelines, plain and simple, NOT three, and until miyamoto says otherwise that's what I'm standing by
good for you? the rest of us would like to continue discussing the possibility that this could be legit, though — if you would be so kind as to grant us your permission, of course.
... with that out of the way, i've noticed some people piping up with 'b-b-but Link could fail in every game' — yes! he absolutely could! No one's denying that he could fail in every single LoZ game given the seemingly-impossible odds he faces; it's just that they've only really explored him failing in OoT so far. I wouldn't mind seeing some of those other failures explored as well, haha. :3
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Nintendo just had to make it even more confusing...
I bet no one here considered the "Link fails in Ocarina of Time" bit.
Because it's bullcrap, lol, that's why it was never considered, not only is it wrong, it logistically makes no SENSE
BAM!! Does it make sense now?
No, it never made logical sense, if there was a separate timeline for every possible game over, then the timeline would be even more of a convoluted mess.
Second, there is no logical way for there to be OoT WITHOUT Link, I'm pretty sure there's only two endings to that game, A: Ganondorf is sealed in the past, and B: Ganondorf is sealed in the present, there is no 'fail' end to the story, it does NOT fit with ALttP, (as four swords adventure better explains the imprisoning war than OoT), I simply cannot see the logic or validity in such a timeline, there are TWO timelines, plain and simple, NOT three, and until miyamoto says otherwise that's what I'm standing by
Its more of a Hypothetical Timeline. Due to the curse (or blessing) There cannot be link with out evil. So Everything Up intill the Final Battle of OTT still happens. Link Awakens the Sages and Ganondorf becomes Ganon. Instead Link is killed by Gannon and fails. This causes the Knights of Hyrule and the Sages to seal Ganon away. This becomes know as the imprisoning wars.
What Leads Credence to this was that Retro pitched a Shiek Game that took place in the OOT timeframe. The way Zelda gets kidnapped the game wouln't have made sense in any other context but Link failing and shiek/Zelda having too step in.
The Only somewhat plot detail is what happens to the Master Sword and how it gets too the Lost woods.
the shiek game that was proposed is not a valid point for a canon timeline discussion, besides, it's more likely to take place in the 7 year gap if it ever would be made. And as I already said, there is no possible game ending (aside from game over, which is in every single freaking game, and can't be considered anymore canon in OoT than in WW or TP) where Link is killed, the imprisoning war is better explained by Four Swords adventure than any theory of 'failure', as does my own theory of the timeline better explain the Master Sword ending up in the woods (as it's there after Link of TP puts it back after the events of that game, where he found it.), then simply staying there til after the events of FSA and the second Ganon shows up
Nintendo just had to make it even more confusing...
I bet no one here considered the "Link fails in Ocarina of Time" bit.
Because it's bullcrap, lol, that's why it was never considered, not only is it wrong, it logistically makes no SENSE
BAM!! Does it make sense now?
No, it never made logical sense, if there was a separate timeline for every possible game over, then the timeline would be even more of a convoluted mess.
Second, there is no logical way for there to be OoT WITHOUT Link, I'm pretty sure there's only two endings to that game, A: Ganondorf is sealed in the past, and B: Ganondorf is sealed in the present, there is no 'fail' end to the story, it does NOT fit with ALttP, (as four swords adventure better explains the imprisoning war than OoT), I simply cannot see the logic or validity in such a timeline, there are TWO timelines, plain and simple, NOT three, and until miyamoto says otherwise that's what I'm standing by
Its more of a Hypothetical Timeline. Due to the curse (or blessing) There cannot be link with out evil. So Everything Up intill the Final Battle of OTT still happens. Link Awakens the Sages and Ganondorf becomes Ganon. Instead Link is killed by Gannon and fails. This causes the Knights of Hyrule and the Sages to seal Ganon away. This becomes know as the imprisoning wars.
What Leads Credence to this was that Retro pitched a Shiek Game that took place in the OOT timeframe. The way Zelda gets kidnapped the game wouln't have made sense in any other context but Link failing and shiek/Zelda having too step in.
The Only somewhat plot detail is what happens to the Master Sword and how it gets too the Lost woods.
the shiek game that was proposed is not a valid point for a canon timeline discussion, besides, it's more likely to take place in the 7 year gap if it ever would be made. And as I already said, there is no possible game ending (aside from game over, which is in every single freaking game, and can't be considered anymore canon in OoT than in WW or TP) where Link is killed, the imprisoning war is better explained by Four Swords adventure than any theory of 'failure', as does my own theory of the timeline better explain the Master Sword ending up in the woods (as it's there after Link of TP puts it back after the events of that game, where he found it.), then simply staying there til after the events of FSA and the second Ganon shows up
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Nintendo just had to make it even more confusing...
I bet no one here considered the "Link fails in Ocarina of Time" bit.
Because it's bullcrap, lol, that's why it was never considered, not only is it wrong, it logistically makes no SENSE
BAM!! Does it make sense now?
No, it never made logical sense, if there was a separate timeline for every possible game over, then the timeline would be even more of a convoluted mess.
Second, there is no logical way for there to be OoT WITHOUT Link, I'm pretty sure there's only two endings to that game, A: Ganondorf is sealed in the past, and B: Ganondorf is sealed in the present, there is no 'fail' end to the story, it does NOT fit with ALttP, (as four swords adventure better explains the imprisoning war than OoT), I simply cannot see the logic or validity in such a timeline, there are TWO timelines, plain and simple, NOT three, and until miyamoto says otherwise that's what I'm standing by
Its more of a Hypothetical Timeline. Due to the curse (or blessing) There cannot be link with out evil. So Everything Up intill the Final Battle of OTT still happens. Link Awakens the Sages and Ganondorf becomes Ganon. Instead Link is killed by Gannon and fails. This causes the Knights of Hyrule and the Sages to seal Ganon away. This becomes know as the imprisoning wars.
What Leads Credence to this was that Retro pitched a Shiek Game that took place in the OOT timeframe. The way Zelda gets kidnapped the game wouln't have made sense in any other context but Link failing and shiek/Zelda having too step in.
The Only somewhat plot detail is what happens to the Master Sword and how it gets too the Lost woods.
the shiek game that was proposed is not a valid point for a canon timeline discussion, besides, it's more likely to take place in the 7 year gap if it ever would be made. And as I already said, there is no possible game ending (aside from game over, which is in every single freaking game, and can't be considered anymore canon in OoT than in WW or TP) where Link is killed, the imprisoning war is better explained by Four Swords adventure than any theory of 'failure', as does my own theory of the timeline better explain the Master Sword ending up in the woods (as it's there after Link of TP puts it back after the events of that game, where he found it.), then simply staying there til after the events of FSA and the second Ganon shows up
The 7 year gap makes no sense. What type of game ends with the Main character being captured and incased in a crystal prision. Nintendo doesn't want that that bad PR.
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Nintendo just had to make it even more confusing...
I bet no one here considered the "Link fails in Ocarina of Time" bit.
Because it's bullcrap, lol, that's why it was never considered, not only is it wrong, it logistically makes no SENSE
BAM!! Does it make sense now?
No, it never made logical sense, if there was a separate timeline for every possible game over, then the timeline would be even more of a convoluted mess.
Second, there is no logical way for there to be OoT WITHOUT Link, I'm pretty sure there's only two endings to that game, A: Ganondorf is sealed in the past, and B: Ganondorf is sealed in the present, there is no 'fail' end to the story, it does NOT fit with ALttP, (as four swords adventure better explains the imprisoning war than OoT), I simply cannot see the logic or validity in such a timeline, there are TWO timelines, plain and simple, NOT three, and until miyamoto says otherwise that's what I'm standing by
Its more of a Hypothetical Timeline. Due to the curse (or blessing) There cannot be link with out evil. So Everything Up intill the Final Battle of OTT still happens. Link Awakens the Sages and Ganondorf becomes Ganon. Instead Link is killed by Gannon and fails. This causes the Knights of Hyrule and the Sages to seal Ganon away. This becomes know as the imprisoning wars.
What Leads Credence to this was that Retro pitched a Shiek Game that took place in the OOT timeframe. The way Zelda gets kidnapped the game wouln't have made sense in any other context but Link failing and shiek/Zelda having too step in.
The Only somewhat plot detail is what happens to the Master Sword and how it gets too the Lost woods.
the shiek game that was proposed is not a valid point for a canon timeline discussion, besides, it's more likely to take place in the 7 year gap if it ever would be made. And as I already said, there is no possible game ending (aside from game over, which is in every single freaking game, and can't be considered anymore canon in OoT than in WW or TP) where Link is killed, the imprisoning war is better explained by Four Swords adventure than any theory of 'failure', as does my own theory of the timeline better explain the Master Sword ending up in the woods (as it's there after Link of TP puts it back after the events of that game, where he found it.), then simply staying there til after the events of FSA and the second Ganon shows up
The 7 year gap makes no sense. What type of game ends with the Main character being captured and encased in a crystal prison. Nintendo doesn't want that that bad PR.
it could end WELL before that, say, ending where Sheik first approaches Link in the Temple of Time, or say, have the whole game take place 3 years into that gap
I simply cannot see the logic or validity in such a timeline, there are TWO timelines, plain and simple, NOT three, and until miyamoto says otherwise that's what I'm standing by
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Twilight Princess' Link would never fail because nothing would ever give him a challenge. >___>
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Branch 1: Link is defeated by Ganon in OoT. Branch 2: Link comes back from the future in OoT and tells Zelda what’s going to happen, she sends him away. Branch 3: There is no longer a hero in the future of OoT since Link was sent back.
After Link dies in Ocarina of Time, Ganon obtains the entire Triforce. The Seven Sages seal away Ganon and the whole Triforce as a last resort, but villains with their eyes on the Triforce make for the Sacred Realm, which eventually turns into the Dark World and is filled with evil power. The Seven Sages then try to seal away the Sacred Realm itself, but end up fighting with monsters. This is the Imprisoning War of A Link to the Past.
This is the only explanation I've seen that makes at least a little sense.
Off-topic: So that's what OoT's Game Over screen looks like.
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Four Swords and Four Swords Adventures should be placed to the side next to Minish Cap, since they're more like side-stories. Either that, or have them both take place directly after Minish Cap, but before A Link to the Past. FSA explains how Ganon got his trident, thus becoming permanently sealed in his beast form.
I know it was originally going to be that but you remember Miyamoto had the story changed due to it being complex. So I guess it still stands true that it is no longer the Imprisoning War.
Btw what I posted was from the translation of the book so it's now confirmed.
This is the only explanation I've seen that makes at least a little sense.
Off-topic: So that's what OoT's Game Over screen looks like.
Four Swords and Four Swords Adventures should be placed to the side next to Minish Cap, since they're more like side-stories. Either that, or have them both take place directly after Minish Cap, but before A Link to the Past. FSA explains how Ganon got his trident, thus becoming permanently sealed in his beast form.
FS and FSA are different links than the Minish Cap. don't let art stye fool you
If you will take Minish Cap to be the the Skyward Sword of the Four Sword.
funny how Fujibayashi's two biggest games have been Origin stories along the same rift.
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