That's just sad. While avoiding any rants about sex and media in the US, an UNEXPOSED BREAST does not equal worse then games like Call of Duty 3 and Goldeneye 007 with visible blood spatter.

hah, let's not forget what happened last time in that violent video games topic. You're right a few posts ago, I was trying to discuss games which were deep in terms of gameplay or in story content. Shadow of the Colossus, for example, is a mature game. Not the killing giant monsters bit, but the story, the atmosphere of loneliness, the motivations behind the characters, they're all things which are definitely going to resonate more with mature gamers than with younger ones.

You can't blame em, on account of the media's obsession with it, it's nice to see a company that still maintains a non gory reputation. :3

Really? aww cool I bought an M game on my own before I turned 18 and now I have 2 rare cases on games, T rated DOAD and Resident Evil Revlitions

Ah yes, another word that has been b******ized over the years. A mature game is supposed to be something that would only appeal to those of a mature mind. Something whose elements are used in a carefully-thought-out manner, which those with less experience would not get. Take death for example: Lots of blood and gore all over the place is something a child would be able to comprehend. A psychological insight into the experience of death, or coming to grips with loss, are both better examples of how to deal with death in a mature manner - something a young child probably could never comprehend.

A perfect example of a Mature game is the original Valkyrie Profile. Here was a game that dealt with the last moments of various individuals just before their deaths. That should be extremely moving if done correctly. Now, personally I felt it was a pretentious piece of trash, but I haven't played it since I was 15, so I'm still thinking of it with my 15 year old mind, when I simply didn't get it. All I remember about it was that it took forever to get to the gameplay sections, which sucked anyways. And I had to sit through long cutscenes with characters I didn't care about because, f***, why should I care about anyone? Obviously I just missed the point, and if I played it again, I'd probably enjoy it a lot more, not only because I'm 20 now, but also because twice now I have come close to death itself.

In conclusion, the average definition of maturity in gaming is wrong, that the true definition requires that the elements be handled with the kind of care only an experienced mind can give, and that it shouldn't be made to appeal to those who lack maturity.

I desperately need to stop thinking now...ouch...

In all honesty bewbz shouldn't make a game M. The area below the waist, yes. Gore is the real contender here.

... I was just going by the esrb, lol.

@caniswolfred
That was deep , omg, I agree entirely to that, exept I don't know what that game is, that's amazing.
Though the only game I think about the same way in terms of like the whole appreciate it thing and how you appreciate it through personal experiences is probably persona 3 fes, I haven't beaten it but I've seen a playthrough of it ( I own it though).
Also when I post on this thread ill probably mention persona 3 fes, so you can expect that. :3

A game usually gets the mature tag if it involves themes better suited for a mature audience, who have a better understanding of the situations depicted in these games.

I actually think Persona 3 mishandles a few of its elements, but is otherwise very mature, yes. I look forward to seeing what you write.

I was going to make a sarcastic reply... But I like moomoo's response better, so I'll just second that.

The rating was only changed to M in Australia, @HarmoKnight. It's still T in the U.S.

@caniswolfred
I'm not actually good with the whole "being deep" thing so really what I write is likely going to be me raving about what I like about the game and if it isnt that then it's going to be a rant about first person shooters. but i guess I could try something better.

sex, drugs, language, blood, gore, rock 'n roll, this:

This is like four years ago all over again.

Moobs.

When I was 12, we were playing Goldeneye on the Nintendo 64. Kids these days are so unspoiled

Totally mature because kids would not be able to comprehend singing poop

I love the great mighty poo! It is the best thing ever!!

It is hard to say. The idea of being a soldier, something that should be mature, has been glorified to young children in the form of, as an example, G.I. Joe cartoons and action figures. Same can be said about the role of being a murderer, Ghostface, for Halloween which too glorifies fear and horror to the masses for nearly all of October. Mature games will likely always, at the surface, be appealing to younger audiences, but will have elements that they would not understand without more maturity. A game I thought of while reading through responses is Dementium II. On the surface, it is a survival horror game with plenty of blood and gruesome scenes. These are concepts that the younger audience is likely to enjoy due to what has been glorified to them. Getting deeper though, there's material only a more mature individual would understand, such as William being messed up in the head and having possible hallucinations of letters from himself, a saner self. The rating system to me only seems to fit with the material of these games beyond their surface. Gore doesn't get the M, the reason behind the gore gets the M.