@Chicken_Brutus Re:the sex scene It was quite nice at first until picture and sound computed in my brain and I have to admit havin a little giggle to myself, ditto Dr.Manhattans Sex scene.What a dude LOL. I also wish we had seen more of the Hollis story. Is it not in the Directors cut? I haven't seen that yet.
hollis's story (i'm assuming you mean his death?) is in the director's cut, though i've not yet seen it... i'm dying to, though.
That is indeed the scene I meant, just trying not to spoil anything for the folks who haven't read it yet. (If you are one of those, though, get out of this thread!) It was a powerful and perfectly handled scene in the book (the alternating panels of Hollis' glory days and his current misfortune were utterly painful to read through), and I think we kind of needed that in the film as the turning point for Dan's character.
I've not seen the director's cut either, mainly because I'm not sure if this is the "super awesome ultimate totally complete" version we were promised, or if that's coming later. Does anyone know if another, more complete version is on the horizon?
as for The Killing Joke, yes, it is excellent, but i would reccommend buying DC Universe: Stories of Alan Moore if you are a fan of his. it contains Killing Joke in its entirety, as well as Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? and numerous other fantastic Alan Moore comics. as far as Watchmen, it is my favorite book, period. the movie was of course not as good, as so much of the graphic novel is written and illustrated in such as way that it cannot be translated to film, such as when dan is trying to hack Veidt's computer:
Rorshach: "Need answers quickly. World on verge of apocalypse. Death and war already here. Other horsemen can't be far behind."
Computer: "Rameses... Password incomplete: Do you wish to add a rider?"
such subtle, almost shakespearean wordplay is lost when converting the comic to a movie. and that lack-of-squid ending was stupid. but yes, most excellent.
as for other comics, there are a myriad i could reccommend, depending on what your interests are. Kingdom Come, Marvels, Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Batman: Year One, Marvel's Secret War, Marvel's Civil war, and several others. and for other Alan Moore graphic novels, i've not yet read it (though i hope to get it soon), but i keep hearing From Hell is also great. it's about Jack the Ripper, and supposedly very historically accurate and emotionally moving. as Stan Lee would say, "Enjoy the wild, weird, wicked, wondrous, and and wonderworking world of comics, New-believer!"
there is another version coming, last i heard, but it is supposed to be different than the director's cut, not necessarily more complete. not sure exactly what that means, but.... here's the link for you to see for yourself.
@bro2dragons Thanks for all your imput. I shall check out all those eventually.As for my tastes well I like dark gritty stuff like Watchmen and Rogue Trooper but honestly I've only dipped my toe in the water as regards to this genre so I'm pretty open to any suggestions (unless they cost a fortune and are out of print! . I think I'm gonna get The Killing Joke and V for Vendetta first though
well, sounds like 2 solid choices, though, as i said you get ALOT more for your money by going with the DC Universe: Alan Moore collection. but anyway, good luck!
“I am a brother to dragons and a companion to owls." Job:30:29
As others have said to those interested, pretty much everything by Alan Moore is at least good, and much of it great to phenomenal. You know a writer has talent if he can make you genuinely enjoy and care about Swamp Thing.
And agreed with Vendetta on ... well, V for Vendetta. Movie wasn't bad, but there was some disappointment having been a fan of ther graphic novel long before the movie was made. But Weaving is such a great actor, and i can pretty much watch Natalie Portman do anything.
Watchmen -- i was amazed how well-done the movie turned out. Yes, some ommissions, and the changed ending, but still. I didn't mind the changed ending too much; it probably fit better from a filmmaking standpoint, and really the end result is essentially the same. Initially i was hesitant to see the movie, thinking it would suck, but very glad to be proven wrong.
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