Topic: The casual/hardcore annoyance

I never understood this casual and hardcore thing, especially with the Nintendo audience. Hardcore seems to be a really lazy way to mention the games you really want to play.

How about, if you'd want to debate things instead of saying "Nintendo's forgotten the hardcore", why can't you say "Nintendo's forgotten their legacy?" That would clearly reference how they don't focus on things like Virtual Console as well as their huge marketing of the "Wii" brand.

Instead of saying "I want a new core IP," why not say "I want Nintendo to create an IP that's a bit more epic in scope, something akin to the games they did in pass generations?"

C'mon people, if you want to be respected, show the industry what you REALLY mean instead of using casual/hardcore. That could mean anything and we suffer while publishers try to figure it out.

What does "IP" stand for?

@Dicesukeinuzuka Intellectual Property. Duh.
Oh, and this thread is so hardcore.

I am currently attempting to 100% Endless Ocean, and I'm having a whale of a time. Which bracket would that gaming activity fit into then? CasuCore! Hardual?! The stupid terms are doing my head in now. They should refer to the way in which we play games, not the game itself.

I don't own a 360 or a PS3, but I am most definitely a h-core gamer!

I always thought when people talk about 'core' gaming it was a learning disability - am I wrong on that?

Are not all 'core' gamers on ritalin or somesuch?

^^ See mrmicawber, that's where you're going wrong! ^^

Forum advice from Machu ahahahahahahahaaaaa

I see where you are going. I am just sick of hearing hardcore/casual myself. I have been gaming for 23 years since the age of 4. I have 6 consoles and a PC. I buy the games I want not because they are tailored for the core or casual crowd. i buy what I think I might have an interest in playing.

Core IP is not the same as hardcore games.

Do you consider games like Contra rebirth to be a hardcore game? I do,regrdless of the arguments.

@odd

You could say games like Contra are hardcore because they offer a hardcore challenge. But I encounter these "hardcore" that don't like to be challenged.

Like Machu mentioned. He can get 100% on EO. When I was growing up, how you played the game determined how hardcore you were, especially if you could play a game like Contra without losing any lives.

@click

Then couldn't you say a game like Wii Sports and Endless Ocean are new core IPs? Apparently that's not what gamers are asking for.

That is one of the main reason why formal Nintendo fans cannot stand anything that Nintendo does, all because Nintendo is trying to introduce a new audience.

Exactly..Sometimes i admit,I'm not even that good at a hardcore challenge. Depends on how well the controls are.