*Cohort said:
and are determined to push this idea that i really do care that much about digital sales, enough that I want to spend the next three days going back and forth like this... Sorry to disappoint you but I don't.*
ok lets see your comments before i said a word a single word to you since you claim not to care about digital sales:
*Cohort said:
Before everyone starts weighing in with their "expert analysis", please bear in mind:
"What should be noted of The Wonderful 101's 22nd place is that it won't include sales directly on the Wii U eShop, which did include a 30% off promotion for those that also purchased Pikmin 3 on the platform."*
*Cohort said:
His entire rant is based on half the story, digital sales are not included in the "all platform" chart, the eshop has a 30% offer if you bought pikmin and also bearing in mind that in general Nintendo's digital sales have been on the rise recently... this would suggest to me that MAYBE people might be more inclined to download the game?*
*Cohort said:
@GiftedGimp That doesn't include digital sales either does it?*
*Cohort said:
@GiftedGimp Exactly! That's what I was referring to, 14th is not bad at all and that's without digital sales as well..*
your right no need to continue this. you constantly contradicting yourself is getting old.
@Cohort
your just in denial dude. digital sales for either game wont be anywhere near big enough to hypothetically boost the numbers as you want to believe regardless of the promo. your overestimation of the base that actually owns a wii u that would actually buy both pikmin & w101in the first place & buy them both digital at that is laughable.
your arguing with everyone that points out the lacking sales, making excuses why the game is selling poorly & comments like these trolling people: Hi kirk..
Sure but like kirk, you've not played the full game either? Interesting...
I know I should let it go but it's incredibly annoying, it's right up there with people who form an opinion based purely from a headline without reading the full article .. You know what I mean?
you openly admitted you cant respect peoples opinions even after you were advised to just let it go. your trying too hard & looking horrible in the process
@thesilverbrick Sorry, but digital sales would really help the overall total, considering a $30 discount if this game was downloaded in addition to Pikmin 3. I'd strongly bet that many of the people anticipating both this game and Pikmin 3 went the download route to save $30 and their purchases aren't reflected in the overall total. So, no, @Cohort is not grasping at straws.
if you think the very small % of people that bought pikmin digital that actually take part of that promotion will even make a dent on the sales charts your grasping for straws right with him. lol!
i liked origins way better than any recent nintendo made 2d platformer, but it was on sale for $20 in less than a month of its release. ill wait for this one to drop.
@Rafie sorry i like to base my statement off of fact and when i state my opinion i make sure its clear thats what im doing. you should try that i was in college when this game came out and our student center had hd tv's. I had one in my apartment. so did most of my friends. so saying hdtv's were scarce is your opinion. but that doesnt matter. ive said what i had to say & you have your opinion. so thats that.
whooo your rage finally hits the surface there you go speaking for everyone. im sorry you couldnt afford a nice tv then, but most people i knew had hd tv's back then. so i just destroyed your blanket statement. the whole point is not to sway your or anyone else's opinion. you made a false statement & i proved it wrong. its as simple as that. you can be as sore as your want. you can stand by your opinion. Fact is the xbox version looks better than the GC version. thats it. Accept it & move on.
@Rafie
wow you must be desperate to resorted to the 'kid" fallback. lol! ill play along. So now your changing you tune to " it's public opion" here is your original post:
"Rafie said:
They should have really made this for the Wii U. Link would have been boss. The GameCube's version was the best looking version"
Hmmm thats strange. that looks like you were stating that as fact. lol! you just got called out on it dude face it. you cant backtrack to try to save your argument now. Also the xbox version running at 780p makes it the best looking no matter how hard your trying to fight it. Its was never about what setups people had. thats a pitifull attempt on your part to deflect the fact that crushed your whole argument. i called you out on which one was the best looking overall. You said it yourself opinion is just that... opinion. Facts are facts. If you choose to ignore facts thats on you, but your opinion is still wrong try harder bro.
@Rafie
yeah the GC was received the best because link was considered the best guest character (i agree) but thats the only reason. You sure you did some digging around? Maybe be you should'nt have wasted your time cherry picking user reviews, because here is igns' head to head:
The Xbox version was superior in the graphics department. Period its not debatable at all. User reviews dont mean anything they are opinion. The X box version running at 780p is fact. You should just face facts. Im bored with you now. move on...
@Kaine_Morrison
you didn't point out anything. not a single link to back up anything you said. you cant get your story straight. first you told aviator EB was release because of multiple petition's. Then you back tracked and claimed iwata made the move solely based on miiverse requests. yet you provided no proof that either is the reason it was actually released. YOUR WORD ISNT PROOF. lol! you need to get that through your head kid.
here is the iwata video. all he says is that after the announcement of EB in japan. he liked that passionate fans showed they wanted it in the west. he doesn't say that's the sole reason nintendo brought it over. it's pretty obvious they were going to release it regardless. nintendo like any other company cares about money first & foremost.
now post links to those 3 petition's you told aviator you took part in. ill wait.
you didnt prove that any petition was the reason EB came to VC. all you did was claimed "Iwata said that that was the only reason that the game was released on the VC was a miiverse petition" but didnt even provide a link to him saying that or for that matter a link to any of the multiple petitions you claimed you were a part of. do you even know the definition of proof? lol! keep digging yourself into a hole cheif.
So you defense is "if the company said so it s true". sigh.... you cant even properly defend your own claims. i easily pointed out the holes in your "proof" on MH3U. your also still avoiding proving your claim of lego city being a smash hit. because we both know you cant. your boring me now. move on.
seriously? that's your proof? this quote says it all.
" its package sales were generally soft"
they said it not me. the sad part thats in japan by far their largest market. that pretty much means it was a critical hit. not a commercial hit. if it were a hit sales wise capcom would have proudly provided numbers. your telling me you didn't find that a bit odd? lol! now since that claim is debunked ill wait for the "proof" on your claim that lego city was also a smash hit.
btw you might want to get something for your cough
i dont think that nintendo has lost its mojo just because the wii u is mediorce and looks like it will be for the foreseeable future. 3ds is on fire and its upcoming line up is very exciting.
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Re: Say Hello To The Nintendo 2DS - A 3DS without 3D
how quick before this outsells the wii u?
Re: The Wonderful 101 Struggles In Its First Week At Japanese Retail
@ScroogeMcLz
im sorry that angers you. dont blame me blame nintendo.
Re: The Wonderful 101 Struggles In Its First Week At Japanese Retail
@-KwB-
its not exactly doing well there either. lol!
Re: The Wonderful 101 Struggles In Its First Week At Japanese Retail
@brucelebnd
when has a console game ever sold more or even remotely close to equal digitally than its boxed counterpart? face it the game tanked.
.
Re: The Wonderful 101 Struggles In Its First Week At Japanese Retail
so it tanked... no suprise there.
Re: Video: Players Give Their Opinions On Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
Ill actually support this game & buy new day 1. Cant say the same for wwhd.
Re: The Wonderful 101 Misses the Top 20 in UK All-Format Charts
@Cohort
just to take a excerpt from your post
*Cohort said:
and are determined to push this idea that i really do care that much about digital sales, enough that I want to spend the next three days going back and forth like this... Sorry to disappoint you but I don't.*
ok lets see your comments before i said a word a single word to you since you claim not to care about digital sales:
*Cohort said:
Before everyone starts weighing in with their "expert analysis", please bear in mind:
"What should be noted of The Wonderful 101's 22nd place is that it won't include sales directly on the Wii U eShop, which did include a 30% off promotion for those that also purchased Pikmin 3 on the platform."*
*Cohort said:
His entire rant is based on half the story, digital sales are not included in the "all platform" chart, the eshop has a 30% offer if you bought pikmin and also bearing in mind that in general Nintendo's digital sales have been on the rise recently... this would suggest to me that MAYBE people might be more inclined to download the game?*
*Cohort said:
@GiftedGimp That doesn't include digital sales either does it?*
*Cohort said:
@GiftedGimp Exactly! That's what I was referring to, 14th is not bad at all and that's without digital sales as well..*
your right no need to continue this. you constantly contradicting yourself is getting old.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD Confirmed for 4th October in North America
@Cohort
I'd love to get the Zelda bundle but I'd have to buy all my eshop games again and I'm not doing another system transfer...
system transfer? please explain.
Re: The Wonderful 101 Misses the Top 20 in UK All-Format Charts
@Cohort
your just in denial dude. digital sales for either game wont be anywhere near big enough to hypothetically boost the numbers as you want to believe regardless of the promo. your overestimation of the base that actually owns a wii u that would actually buy both pikmin & w101in the first place & buy them both digital at that is laughable.
your arguing with everyone that points out the lacking sales, making excuses why the game is selling poorly & comments like these trolling people:
Hi kirk..
Sure but like kirk, you've not played the full game either? Interesting...
I know I should let it go but it's incredibly annoying, it's right up there with people who form an opinion based purely from a headline without reading the full article .. You know what I mean?
you openly admitted you cant respect peoples opinions even after you were advised to just let it go. your trying too hard & looking horrible in the process
Re: The Wonderful 101 Misses the Top 20 in UK All-Format Charts
@thesilverbrick
Sorry, but digital sales would really help the overall total, considering a $30 discount if this game was downloaded in addition to Pikmin 3. I'd strongly bet that many of the people anticipating both this game and Pikmin 3 went the download route to save $30 and their purchases aren't reflected in the overall total. So, no, @Cohort is not grasping at straws.
if you think the very small % of people that bought pikmin digital that actually take part of that promotion will even make a dent on the sales charts your grasping for straws right with him. lol!
Re: The Wonderful 101 Misses the Top 20 in UK All-Format Charts
@Cohort
Sure, that small amount people that bought Pikimin are not going to bother taking up the 30% eshop offer?
fixed that for ya. try harder.
Re: The Wonderful 101 Misses the Top 20 in UK All-Format Charts
@Cohort
as if digital sales would really help. lol! your grasping for straws.
Re: Splinter Cell Blacklist Wii U Version's Performance Put Under the Spotlight
@Tra_Venous
Apparently Digital Foundry is kinda biased
care to share your reasoning behind this. any examples?
Re: The Wonderful 101 Misses the Top 20 in UK All-Format Charts
@SCAR392
really dude? really? smh...
Re: Splinter Cell Blacklist Wii U Version's Performance Put Under the Spotlight
wow wii u is inferior version. confirmed. smh
Re: The Wonderful 101 Misses the Top 20 in UK All-Format Charts
@SanderEvers
so ninja gaiden 3 RE is first party too since nintendo published it right? i laugh at you as i play it on my PS3.
@Kirk
agreed any resonable person knew this game would bomb. ill personally buy it @ a $20 price point.
Re: Review: Rayman Legends (Wii U)
@SanderEvers
oh i see. i hate wii controls. playing RE4 in hd with a ps3 controller was better for me.
Re: Review: Rayman Legends (Wii U)
@SanderEvers
ps3/360 hd versions are the best
Re: Review: Rayman Legends (Wii U)
i liked origins way better than any recent nintendo made 2d platformer, but it was on sale for $20 in less than a month of its release. ill wait for this one to drop.
Re: Shadow of the Eternals Fails To Meet Funding Goal
lol! way to fail... twice.
Re: Weirdness: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is Beaten in Under 20 Minutes
lame
Re: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD Hero Mode Details Sail Into View
hero mode is lazy... im buying preowned
Re: Review: The Wonderful 101 (Wii U)
i cant wait for this to hit $20-30. that's when ill get it.
Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate HD Confirmed, But Not For Wii U
lol! wow. embarrassing
Re: Interview: Denis Dyack on Shadow of the Eternals, Community Engagement and Eternal Darkness
ill pass
Re: Zombie Title How to Survive Confirmed for the Wii U eShop, Without Online Multiplayer
lol! another one? smh
Re: Yakuza 1 & 2 HD Reportedly Sells Less Than 2000 Copies in Debut Week
another game bombs. smh
Re: GameStop Defends Xenoblade Chronicles Pricing, Plans More "Vintage Titles" Like Metroid Prime Trilogy
soooo much rage. this is great.
Re: GameStop Accused of Re-Printing Xenoblade Chronicles, Then Selling as "Used" For $90
rolf! awesome
Re: Soul Calibur II HD Online Not Announced For Wii U
@Rafie
sorry i like to base my statement off of fact and when i state my opinion i make sure its clear thats what im doing. you should try that i was in college when this game came out and our student center had hd tv's. I had one in my apartment. so did most of my friends. so saying hdtv's were scarce is your opinion. but that doesnt matter. ive said what i had to say & you have your opinion. so thats that.
Re: Soul Calibur II HD Online Not Announced For Wii U
whooo your rage finally hits the surface there you go speaking for everyone. im sorry you couldnt afford a nice tv then, but most people i knew had hd tv's back then. so i just destroyed your blanket statement. the whole point is not to sway your or anyone else's opinion. you made a false statement & i proved it wrong. its as simple as that. you can be as sore as your want. you can stand by your opinion. Fact is the xbox version looks better than the GC version. thats it. Accept it & move on.
Re: Soul Calibur II HD Online Not Announced For Wii U
@Rafie
wow you must be desperate to resorted to the 'kid" fallback. lol! ill play along. So now your changing you tune to " it's public opion" here is your original post:
"Rafie said:
They should have really made this for the Wii U. Link would have been boss. The GameCube's version was the best looking version"
Hmmm thats strange. that looks like you were stating that as fact. lol! you just got called out on it dude face it. you cant backtrack to try to save your argument now. Also the xbox version running at 780p makes it the best looking no matter how hard your trying to fight it. Its was never about what setups people had. thats a pitifull attempt on your part to deflect the fact that crushed your whole argument. i called you out on which one was the best looking overall. You said it yourself opinion is just that... opinion. Facts are facts. If you choose to ignore facts thats on you, but your opinion is still wrong try harder bro.
Re: Soul Calibur II HD Online Not Announced For Wii U
@Rafie
yeah the GC was received the best because link was considered the best guest character (i agree) but thats the only reason. You sure you did some digging around? Maybe be you should'nt have wasted your time cherry picking user reviews, because here is igns' head to head:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2003/08/26/soul-calibur-ii-head-to-head?page=4
The Xbox version was superior in the graphics department. Period its not debatable at all. User reviews dont mean anything they are opinion. The X box version running at 780p is fact. You should just face facts. Im bored with you now. move on...
Re: Soul Calibur II HD Online Not Announced For Wii U
@Rafie
it's not debatable. the xbox version was the only one to support 780p. you may want to get your eyes checked.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=338181
Re: Soul Calibur II HD Online Not Announced For Wii U
@Kaine_Morrison
you didn't point out anything. not a single link to back up anything you said. you cant get your story straight. first you told aviator EB was release because of multiple petition's. Then you back tracked and claimed iwata made the move solely based on miiverse requests. yet you provided no proof that either is the reason it was actually released. YOUR WORD ISNT PROOF. lol! you need to get that through your head kid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvlB1uE5-ZQ
here is the iwata video. all he says is that after the announcement of EB in japan. he liked that passionate fans showed they wanted it in the west. he doesn't say that's the sole reason nintendo brought it over. it's pretty obvious they were going to release it regardless. nintendo like any other company cares about money first & foremost.
now post links to those 3 petition's you told aviator you took part in. ill wait.
Re: Soul Calibur II HD Online Not Announced For Wii U
@3Daniel
wrong. SC2 on GC sold the most out of the gate, but the PS2 version surpassed it in the long run.
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/2116/soulcalibur-ii/
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/5713/soulcalibur-ii/
Re: Soul Calibur II HD Online Not Announced For Wii U
@Rafie
actually the xbox version was the best looking version.
Re: Soul Calibur II HD Online Not Announced For Wii U
@Kaine_Morrison
like i thought. you cant prove anything. you were just talking out of your hind parts. smh.
Re: Soul Calibur II HD Online Not Announced For Wii U
@Kaine_Morrison
you didnt prove that any petition was the reason EB came to VC. all you did was claimed "Iwata said that that was the only reason that the game was released on the VC was a miiverse petition" but didnt even provide a link to him saying that or for that matter a link to any of the multiple petitions you claimed you were a part of. do you even know the definition of proof? lol! keep digging yourself into a hole cheif.
Re: Soul Calibur II HD Online Not Announced For Wii U
@Kaine_Morrison
stop trying so hard. you can't prove it dude.
Re: Soapbox: Why We Should Expect More From The Legend Of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
i never thought id say this for a zelda game, but.... $20 or bust.
Re: Ubisoft CEO Admits ZombiU Sales Were Disappointing, No Plans For Sequel
@wombatkidd
So you defense is "if the company said so it s true". sigh.... you cant even properly defend your own claims. i easily pointed out the holes in your "proof" on MH3U. your also still avoiding proving your claim of lego city being a smash hit. because we both know you cant. your boring me now. move on.
Re: Ubisoft CEO Admits ZombiU Sales Were Disappointing, No Plans For Sequel
@wombatkidd
seriously? that's your proof? this quote says it all.
" its package sales were generally soft"
they said it not me. the sad part thats in japan by far their largest market. that pretty much means it was a critical hit. not a commercial hit. if it were a hit sales wise capcom would have proudly provided numbers. your telling me you didn't find that a bit odd? lol! now since that claim is debunked ill wait for the "proof" on your claim that lego city was also a smash hit.
btw you might want to get something for your cough
Re: Ubisoft CEO Admits ZombiU Sales Were Disappointing, No Plans For Sequel
@Subie98
amen brother. im with you on that. im not going to support a game just because of who made it.
Re: Ubisoft CEO Admits ZombiU Sales Were Disappointing, No Plans For Sequel
@wombatkidd
Monster Hunter (wii u version) & Lego city were smash hits? really? thats the first ive heard of that.
Re: Ubisoft CEO Admits ZombiU Sales Were Disappointing, No Plans For Sequel
bad game. bad sales. what do you expect. thank god i traded it in a week after launch & got $43 store credit for that stinker.
Re: Pachter: Nintendo Has Lost Its "Mojo"
@Banker-Style
correction. he upset's nintendo fanboys. the majority of nintendo gamers are not affected by his opinion.
Re: Pachter: Nintendo Has Lost Its "Mojo"
i dont think that nintendo has lost its mojo just because the wii u is mediorce and looks like it will be for the foreseeable future. 3ds is on fire and its upcoming line up is very exciting.
Re: Video: These Japanese Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Trailers Are a Sight to Behold
looks far better than every wii u game on the horizon. cant wait to get it.
Re: Wii U Version Of Beyond Good & Evil 2 Looking Unlikely
@Nintex
cant the same be said about nintendo games as of late? cookie cutter trash - minus a select few.