Granted it is still overpriced if you're just going by specs for money but definitely goes for more than $20 retail...
But that being said I don't know why all their collab watches don't have at minimum solar + multi band 6 (or bluetooth, but I prefer the atomic time feature).
They could have picked a better base model for this watch tbh but G-shocks are pretty great watches. The module in this one is pretty low on features for the price though. For only ~$70-80 more at Amazon prices you could get a Rangeman with way more features, or for ~$40 less you could get a GWM-5610 with solar charging and automatic time setting via the atomic clock in fort collins (or the european/japanese/chinese locations).
I'm not sure why but they mark up their collaboration watches quite a bit. I'd probably still be willing to pay it if it had more up to date features compared to other G Shocks though.
The people saying it's just some cheap chinese or happy meal watch are just...willfully ignorant lol. The base model of this watch is like $80 or so (retail, often goes for cheaper), which granted it's a lot more but maybe licensing fees contribute to it being expensive. Smartwatches aren't even comparable, it's for a different mindset entirely, like if you want a watch you don't have to ever think about vs one you have to recharge constantly and that brings the annoyances of your phone to your wrist. Also G-shocks are known to survive much rougher environments and they will hold up for years and years.
That being said I'm not sure why they didn't base it on the far superior GWM5610 model that has updated features, solar charging, and atomic timekeeping. They did for the Mother watch (which I got and probably shouldn't have cause it's barely any different but it's still a very good watch).
I'd get it if it had solar but it'll be a pass from me.
@KingMike Yeah, strategy games from that time can be really bad with time it takes for turns. Fire Emblem 4, while being really good, suffers from this kinda badly as well.
@Apportal If you like platformers, I'd recommend vice: project doom (on NES online)! It has some genre mixing in there as well. It aged pretty well in my opinion.
One thing I have wished they would add is a fast forward though. Famicom Wars is still fun enough but the turns take so long that it's a turn-off in itself...
@Apportal Well, it sounded a bit to me like them not doing so in the past involved the other games they've added, a lot of which have been not as popular but still good. Apologies if I misread you, but it's just a common sentiment about these particularly (especially NES online).
@Apportal This reminds me of when people were even upset the month they added Solomon's Key to NES Online (yes, I read several people saying that). It's a very good game but a lot of people just won't give it a chance, and it bums me out people just won't try them. A lot of the stuff they add that's not a super mainstream request is actually pretty good!
SCAT is actually a very good game (unfortunate title aside...)
I kinda wish they would port Adventures of Lolo 2 and 3 over as well, they are probably my favorite NES puzzle series and the first one is already up as far as I know. It teaches you one new mechanic at a time and it's just done really well overall. I always liked how it mixes action and puzzle solving.
@KingMike I definitely agree there, one of the reasons I would like some of these games to get ported over is simply that there is no legitimate way to play them that doesn't involve paying a third party that had no hand in making the game hundreds of dollars.
I've done it myself before, but I'm not gonna do that for every game that costs an arm and a leg out there.
And when Nintendo and some of these other companies refuse to acknowledge a lot of their back catalog exists and someone might want to play it, what can you do really? A lot of expensive games are games that got made after a newer console was out, so they got overlooked until later. A lot of those most people have never heard of and will never be exposed to, simply because companies just don't really care enough about preserving their catalogues. And they could easily be games most people would like if they tried them. Some of my favorite games now for old consoles are definitely games I hadn't heard of at the time and only heard of later on when looking for underrated stuff I hadn't tried.
@Stocksy Yeah the boundary is a bit wide age-wise there for whatever reason, I find it all a bit silly. My first game was Zelda I, I remember drawing a map of the game on dot matrix paper haha. I will stand being blamed for all the world's ills, but not for a lack of love for retro games
The SNES was basically on the scene by the time I started playing games seriously, but NES games were easy to scoop up at yard sales and the like, so I ended up playing a lot more of them. I never could beat Zelda II till I was in college, not to mention Ninja Gaiden...
I'm old enough to remember those terrible RF adapters too...god I hated those things. They actually made composite look good somehow.
@Stocksy I think you may be thinking of Gen Z there . I was born before the SNES was out and still considered a millennial lol. Grew up on NES, SNES, N64. NES still my favorite console aside from PC Engine but I greatly enjoyed my N64 (and it was mindblowing to see a game actually in 3D!).
@CoastersPaul I think maybe if they don't redo the graphics or translate it or something else that may be a bit high for most people at $25 per game. Maybe just me though. Some games I would definitely do that for just cause I'm crazy about em but most probably not.
Aside from stuff like Trials of Mana that I think they sense a clear demand for, they seem mostly content to just put some of their mobile ports on Switch, which some like but I've had bad issues with in the past on PC (I didn't get the Chrono Trigger one, but that one was what finally did it and made people super angry till they fixed it), for me mainly issues with stuff like them leaving in touch screen UI which looks kinda ugly/the way the font was just kinda default in FFIII I think it was.
But a lot of SE's better stuff on SNES is just untranslated (officially) so unless they take up another effort like that it'll just never get seen. Besides the obvious like FFV and Dragon Quest III/V/VI (which got other versions but SNES ones remain untranslated officially in English AFAIK), games like Live a Live and Front Mission: Gun Hazard spring to mind. Definitely highly recommend those two particularly though, they are amazing RPGs.
@Deltath I dunno if I'd say it has the greatest library but IMO it's definitely underrated by some people, small though it may be. There's a lot of stuff people overlooked that's really good on there. Nintendo rereleased some of it for the Wii like Sin and Punishment, but there's more good stuff on there than you would think. Mischief Makers is a favorite of mine that tends to get passed over a bit (not as much as some others, but it aged pretty damn well).
I could list about 50 pretty solid games for it that I enjoy playing. Maybe not as much as a console with games for days in its library like PS2 but enough to make it better than say the Gamecube for me.
And yeah a good few of them have camera issues, but I'd say again that more than you might think have a decent one or sidestep the issue!
On topic I guess these are two great additions, and it's good to see Nintendo isn't afraid of releasing JP games if theyre easily playable by westerners. The rate of new games is much slower than I'd like, but eh.
I mostly wanna see them release Gimmick on NES Online, since it's the best NES platformer IMO. Mainly just so people get exposed to it and now that Silius is on the console, which clearly shows they can release Sunsoft games and there should be no licensing issues. I own it, but more people need to play it, it's really good! Graphics and music better than Kirby but without any of the lag and better level design.
My hypothesis though is that their in-house emulator doesn't support 5B sound yet. No evidence for that claim, but wouldn't surprise me given the limitations of their NES Classic emu.
@Cosats You're rather silly if you think this is an apt comparison. Emulators ARE preserving the games Nintendo doesn't care about. Ever heard of the Satellaview? Huge library of games, a lot of them exclusive and lost to time. Guess how many Nintendo has re-released? 1, and not even in its original form. Emulators are the only practical way to play those now. There's a ton of games like this, and some hardware like the Famicom Disk System is eventually going to be impossible to play original games on...they were recorded on floppies which aren't the most solid of storage media. Some of my original FDS games are already iffy in terms of whether they'll read. Only a matter of time before they're all dead and only playable via emulation or roms (like the FDSStick method).
Emulation guarantees that the games will always be playable, because the files can be backed up, copied, carried on to later computer hardware and still run. They directly aid in games preservation.
Also, emulation is not strictly illegal, or else emulator websites would all be DMCA'd by now. It's legal to make your own copies of games you own and run them on emulators, and while you may scoff at that thinking no one actually does that, I in fact do. One major reason for this is that it preserves the save files on cartridges that use a battery that otherwise would be lost forever when the battery dies.
Nintendo barely cares about its back catalog of games that don't have major characters on them, emulators have picked up the slack nintendo has left behind in that regard.
Remember how good Wii virtual console was? How the Wii U was still good but not quite as good? How the Switch's library of retro games now is kinda mediocre compared to either? Nintendo is almost regressing in terms of the games they are preserving.
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Re: Casio G-Shock Launch A Limited Edition Super Mario Watch, And It's Gorgeous
@Azuris That's an F91W. https://www.casio.com/us/watches/casio/product.F-91W-1/
Base model of this watch is the module from the DW-5600.
https://www.casio.com/us/watches/gshock/product.DW-5600E-1V/
Granted it is still overpriced if you're just going by specs for money but definitely goes for more than $20 retail...
But that being said I don't know why all their collab watches don't have at minimum solar + multi band 6 (or bluetooth, but I prefer the atomic time feature).
Re: Casio G-Shock Launch A Limited Edition Super Mario Watch, And It's Gorgeous
@Luigi05 Yep, same one. They make pianos too.
They could have picked a better base model for this watch tbh but G-shocks are pretty great watches. The module in this one is pretty low on features for the price though. For only ~$70-80 more at Amazon prices you could get a Rangeman with way more features, or for ~$40 less you could get a GWM-5610 with solar charging and automatic time setting via the atomic clock in fort collins (or the european/japanese/chinese locations).
I'm not sure why but they mark up their collaboration watches quite a bit. I'd probably still be willing to pay it if it had more up to date features compared to other G Shocks though.
Re: Casio G-Shock Launch A Limited Edition Super Mario Watch, And It's Gorgeous
The people saying it's just some cheap chinese or happy meal watch are just...willfully ignorant lol. The base model of this watch is like $80 or so (retail, often goes for cheaper), which granted it's a lot more but maybe licensing fees contribute to it being expensive. Smartwatches aren't even comparable, it's for a different mindset entirely, like if you want a watch you don't have to ever think about vs one you have to recharge constantly and that brings the annoyances of your phone to your wrist. Also G-shocks are known to survive much rougher environments and they will hold up for years and years.
That being said I'm not sure why they didn't base it on the far superior GWM5610 model that has updated features, solar charging, and atomic timekeeping. They did for the Mother watch (which I got and probably shouldn't have cause it's barely any different but it's still a very good watch).
I'd get it if it had solar but it'll be a pass from me.
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES And NES Service With Four More Titles
@KingMike Yeah, strategy games from that time can be really bad with time it takes for turns. Fire Emblem 4, while being really good, suffers from this kinda badly as well.
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES And NES Service With Four More Titles
@Apportal If you like platformers, I'd recommend vice: project doom (on NES online)! It has some genre mixing in there as well. It aged pretty well in my opinion.
One thing I have wished they would add is a fast forward though. Famicom Wars is still fun enough but the turns take so long that it's a turn-off in itself...
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES And NES Service With Four More Titles
@Apportal Well, it sounded a bit to me like them not doing so in the past involved the other games they've added, a lot of which have been not as popular but still good. Apologies if I misread you, but it's just a common sentiment about these particularly (especially NES online).
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES And NES Service With Four More Titles
@Apportal This reminds me of when people were even upset the month they added Solomon's Key to NES Online (yes, I read several people saying that). It's a very good game but a lot of people just won't give it a chance, and it bums me out people just won't try them. A lot of the stuff they add that's not a super mainstream request is actually pretty good!
SCAT is actually a very good game (unfortunate title aside...)
I kinda wish they would port Adventures of Lolo 2 and 3 over as well, they are probably my favorite NES puzzle series and the first one is already up as far as I know. It teaches you one new mechanic at a time and it's just done really well overall. I always liked how it mixes action and puzzle solving.
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES And NES Service With Four More Titles
@KingMike I definitely agree there, one of the reasons I would like some of these games to get ported over is simply that there is no legitimate way to play them that doesn't involve paying a third party that had no hand in making the game hundreds of dollars.
I've done it myself before, but I'm not gonna do that for every game that costs an arm and a leg out there.
And when Nintendo and some of these other companies refuse to acknowledge a lot of their back catalog exists and someone might want to play it, what can you do really? A lot of expensive games are games that got made after a newer console was out, so they got overlooked until later. A lot of those most people have never heard of and will never be exposed to, simply because companies just don't really care enough about preserving their catalogues. And they could easily be games most people would like if they tried them. Some of my favorite games now for old consoles are definitely games I hadn't heard of at the time and only heard of later on when looking for underrated stuff I hadn't tried.
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES And NES Service With Four More Titles
@Stocksy Yeah the boundary is a bit wide age-wise there for whatever reason, I find it all a bit silly. My first game was Zelda I, I remember drawing a map of the game on dot matrix paper haha. I will stand being blamed for all the world's ills, but not for a lack of love for retro games
The SNES was basically on the scene by the time I started playing games seriously, but NES games were easy to scoop up at yard sales and the like, so I ended up playing a lot more of them. I never could beat Zelda II till I was in college, not to mention Ninja Gaiden...
I'm old enough to remember those terrible RF adapters too...god I hated those things. They actually made composite look good somehow.
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES And NES Service With Four More Titles
@Stocksy I think you may be thinking of Gen Z there . I was born before the SNES was out and still considered a millennial lol. Grew up on NES, SNES, N64. NES still my favorite console aside from PC Engine but I greatly enjoyed my N64 (and it was mindblowing to see a game actually in 3D!).
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES And NES Service With Four More Titles
@CoastersPaul I think maybe if they don't redo the graphics or translate it or something else that may be a bit high for most people at $25 per game. Maybe just me though. Some games I would definitely do that for just cause I'm crazy about em but most probably not.
Aside from stuff like Trials of Mana that I think they sense a clear demand for, they seem mostly content to just put some of their mobile ports on Switch, which some like but I've had bad issues with in the past on PC (I didn't get the Chrono Trigger one, but that one was what finally did it and made people super angry till they fixed it), for me mainly issues with stuff like them leaving in touch screen UI which looks kinda ugly/the way the font was just kinda default in FFIII I think it was.
But a lot of SE's better stuff on SNES is just untranslated (officially) so unless they take up another effort like that it'll just never get seen. Besides the obvious like FFV and Dragon Quest III/V/VI (which got other versions but SNES ones remain untranslated officially in English AFAIK), games like Live a Live and Front Mission: Gun Hazard spring to mind. Definitely highly recommend those two particularly though, they are amazing RPGs.
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES And NES Service With Four More Titles
@Deltath I dunno if I'd say it has the greatest library but IMO it's definitely underrated by some people, small though it may be. There's a lot of stuff people overlooked that's really good on there. Nintendo rereleased some of it for the Wii like Sin and Punishment, but there's more good stuff on there than you would think. Mischief Makers is a favorite of mine that tends to get passed over a bit (not as much as some others, but it aged pretty damn well).
I could list about 50 pretty solid games for it that I enjoy playing. Maybe not as much as a console with games for days in its library like PS2 but enough to make it better than say the Gamecube for me.
And yeah a good few of them have camera issues, but I'd say again that more than you might think have a decent one or sidestep the issue!
On topic I guess these are two great additions, and it's good to see Nintendo isn't afraid of releasing JP games if theyre easily playable by westerners. The rate of new games is much slower than I'd like, but eh.
I mostly wanna see them release Gimmick on NES Online, since it's the best NES platformer IMO. Mainly just so people get exposed to it and now that Silius is on the console, which clearly shows they can release Sunsoft games and there should be no licensing issues. I own it, but more people need to play it, it's really good! Graphics and music better than Kirby but without any of the lag and better level design.
My hypothesis though is that their in-house emulator doesn't support 5B sound yet. No evidence for that claim, but wouldn't surprise me given the limitations of their NES Classic emu.
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES And NES Service With Four More Titles
@Cosats You're rather silly if you think this is an apt comparison. Emulators ARE preserving the games Nintendo doesn't care about. Ever heard of the Satellaview? Huge library of games, a lot of them exclusive and lost to time. Guess how many Nintendo has re-released? 1, and not even in its original form. Emulators are the only practical way to play those now. There's a ton of games like this, and some hardware like the Famicom Disk System is eventually going to be impossible to play original games on...they were recorded on floppies which aren't the most solid of storage media. Some of my original FDS games are already iffy in terms of whether they'll read. Only a matter of time before they're all dead and only playable via emulation or roms (like the FDSStick method).
Emulation guarantees that the games will always be playable, because the files can be backed up, copied, carried on to later computer hardware and still run. They directly aid in games preservation.
Also, emulation is not strictly illegal, or else emulator websites would all be DMCA'd by now. It's legal to make your own copies of games you own and run them on emulators, and while you may scoff at that thinking no one actually does that, I in fact do. One major reason for this is that it preserves the save files on cartridges that use a battery that otherwise would be lost forever when the battery dies.
Nintendo barely cares about its back catalog of games that don't have major characters on them, emulators have picked up the slack nintendo has left behind in that regard.
Remember how good Wii virtual console was? How the Wii U was still good but not quite as good? How the Switch's library of retro games now is kinda mediocre compared to either? Nintendo is almost regressing in terms of the games they are preserving.