Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES And NES Service With Four More Titles

Mario's Super Picross is a great surprise, I'll definitely be playing that next week.

Yeah that and DKC2 are great gets

Who on here is ready

DKC2 is awesome!

The SNES online service lineup is now arguably better than the SNES Classic lineup.

@Antraxx777 and Mario

Oh great another game they will refuse to translate, SCAT indeed.

@RushDawg Agreed

Wow, Nintendo listened to their fans for once? I'm surprised.

....Meh. Even with a decent SNES game...I'm kinda just sick of the NSO stuff. Still would rather just hook up my SNES Classic and play the games that way anyways...

Yessss now we just need DKC3 and Earthbound and I’m in heaven

Well!! My my my lookie here!

Best of the original trilogy right there, can't wait to run through it again.

DKC2 is exciting. I still need to play the first game...

Will also check out Mario's Super Picross. Perhaps this brings hope for an international release of Kirby's Star Stacker?

@ianl579 Mario 64

@YoshiFlutterJump Yeah

Good stuff. DKC2 is a classic always worth replaying. Never played Super Picross, really enjoyed the GB one on 3DS VC. Nice update. 👍

Any chance we can keep these games after Nintendo takes down the Switch online service years from now?

@ianl579 I'll be right there with you, didn't even know the game existed.

Finally! Super Mario's Picross! What a pleasant surprise!

Forest Interlude intensifies

@Don I've been wondering that myself. I would hope when the Switch is done and over with that they'd just let us keep them.

@Gamer_Mario002 I'm ready. I might have to divert from my Mario marathon a bit to play DKC2.

I've already played DKC2 a million times. Do I really need to play it again?

YES, YES I DO! 😁

My favorite game for 25 years now.

I'm legit excited for Mario's Super Picross, haters be damned.

The best update yet!

Only took about 14 years but after skipping the American Virtual Consoles and being on the European and Japan VCs, Mario's Super Picross finally makes its US debut on a Nintendo download service.....

If they keep this up, then the NSO will redeem itself. I was already fine with it cause of lttp and breath of fire, but this will make it much more appealing. Now about those rumors for super Mario rpg...

Lmao scat. Who thought of that name?

Really enjoyed my recent play throughout of the original DKC. Look forward to playing the 2nd. All things considered... it’s not a bad month for the service.

People claiming that the window has closed (Sept.) for Nintendo to add another system, I don’t necessarily agree with. Late 2020 or early 2021 are possible windows of opportunity, given how unpredictable the company has been. Also they might want to add another incentive for newcomers to the system (people who got the Switch as a holiday gift) to jump in the service.

More Donkey Kong love!

@NotTelevision I don't think NL has reported on it yet, but I just read an article that said there's evidence in the coding of the Super Mario 3D All-Stars collection that the N64 games potential real-life spoiler if you're not into leaks Kirby 64, Mario Golf, Paper Mario, Mario Tennis, Perfect Dark, and Pokemon Snap were tested on the in-house emulator.

No guarantee, of course, but the possibility is there.

I wish they’d add a smooth filter option but without the scan lines.

@RushDawg close but I feel SNES online needs more / better RPGs

It’s only a matter of time before they start with the Game Boy and Game Boy Color games with a Game Boy shell for the Switch console itself to slot into.

Or A small handful of the Virtual Boy games with a special replica that the console would slot into alongside a wireless controller with both D-Pads in tact.

Or Game Boy Advance games with a controller built like a original GBA console (just without a functional screen)

Are we all really gonna pretend that we don’t notice that the game’s name is S.C.A.T. or........................

Donkey Kong Country 2 is my favorite SNES game. Still bums me out that it didn’t make the cut on the SNES Mini. But it’s here on Switch now. I like SCAT too... the game that is. 😬

How about some N64 and Gamecube games while you’re at it?

@Crockin I read your comment in Oogie Boogie’s voice.

Never played DKC2, so this was a pleasant surprise! I’m still salty and upset that SMT didn’t get on the US VC but oh well );

Still not the titles I'd ask for, but at least the seem to recall the service exists...

We might see GB, GBA and N64 before this decade ends...

Weeeee caaaant waaaaiiittt

@Lindhardt Greedy is not making popular titles available for free? I suppose I'm greedy for not throwing my money out the window.

“Are you as excited as we are about the return of Donkey Kong Country 2? Tell us down below.”

No, but I couldn’t be more interested in Mario Picross.

Hmm. Nice surprise.

F*** yes!

DKC2!!!!!!!!! Finally

Not sure why but i thouroghly enjoy dk2 way more than dk1. Im so happy for the news

Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy’s Kong Quest is a top three SNES game for me, it's a great addition to the service and I'll def be playing it on the 23rd.

DKC2 is one of the most underrated pure platformers of all time. It’s second only to Super Mario World for its era and I actually like it better than SMW. A huge step up from the original DKC in every way!

Definitely in for some picross

Almost sexual isn't it Smithers?

Wow, nice additions!!! Bravo Nintendo!

Between my SNES mini, the SNES selections on NS Online and the games I got on my Wii U back when, I've got pretty much every Super Nintendo game I like covered.

@RushDawg Not at all! If you have the classic, you can put any game you want on it, and you only pay for it once. Their online service is literal trash.

This and Chrono Trigger were literally the first games I put on my SNES Classic. Probably the greatest platformer ever made.

@AG_Awesome I made the same complaint, The CRT filter looks so good, unlike those ugly smooth filters PC emulators make, the scanlines on handheld mode makes it look so bad some games have to be played in pixel mode

Now I regret having emulated and played to death all these great SNES games 15 years ago when I was broke.

@AlienigenX Why? Emulation is essential for the preservation of gaming history.

DKC2!!! Yes! Yes! Yes!!!

...give us DKC3 and EarthBound too, please.

@Trajan because I could be enjoying them for the fist time on my switch the way they are supposed to run (also my emulator back in the day was pretty crappy and sounded awful, SNES was the hardest console from the 16 bit era to emulate properly)

Also... amazing avatar BTW

Oh wow! Mario's Super Picross was an awesome gem for the SFC! Honestly one of the few Japan-only games I modded to my SNES Classic. Would be my favorite addition to the service if Star Fox 2 wasn't on there tbh.

@Trajan "Emulation is essential for the preservation of gaming history" Is this the fairytale you say to yourself to justify illegal practices and theft? Can I have the key of your house so I can preserve it too if you don't mind?

So many Picross games on Switch! ❤️

I haven't played the SNES Picross game, but the Game Boy games are fantastic puzzle experiences, so I bet this is equally as good.

They need to add Chrono Trigger

While having DKC2 is pretty neat, I'm becoming increasingly baffled by their seeming reluctance to add more platforms, even under a 'premium' subscription option. You'd think by now we'd at least be getting N64 titles?

@Level_Up

If you’re an RPG fan, the SNES Classic is definitely better. SNES Online has better shmups, puzzle games, sports titles and arguably better action games.

@TG16_IS_BAE

Don’t be ridiculous. I was obviously comparing official lineups between the SNES Classic and SNES Online.

If you want to bring hacking into it, the SNES Classic isn’t anything special with its limited storage. Better off with a Rapsberry Pi.

@Cosats if you look at a picture of art on your phone is it theft?

Btw: you should look up what theft is.

Theft is the taking of another person's property or services without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it.

Copying data is not theft. I collect retro games, but I also have every Nintendo game ever made up until 2006 on my PC.

@AlienigenX “the way they are supposed to run”. You realize this is an emulator too right? I was emulating snes and n64 in 2003 on my viao that only had a 2.4ghz Pentium 4HT. SNES emulation was never very bad. 64 was a bit more tricky.

I know most people are clamoring for the N64, but it's aged horribly and the only game I can really revisit is Mario 64, which will be on my Switch in about two and a half days. Otherwise, the N64 was the mistake that set Nintendo back years. Cartridges are cool now, but not back then when CD technology was so cutting edge and cheaper.

Who the bloody hell is asking for Jaleco games?

@MeWario

I agree with DKC2 being amazing, I put it as the top SNES game. But underrated? I've never heard it called that. I've only ever heard good words about it

looks over at Game Pass Ultimate

I did NOT know there was a Mario Picross sequel. I'll return my True Nintendo Fan Card tomorrow... And my Wii Zapper... And my Circle Pad Pro...

I liked peace keepers although generic. I believe it was a multi tap game back then

@RushDawg I wouldn’t go that far. All it has worthwhile that the SNES lacks is DKC2. Until it gets FFVI and SMRPG, it still doesn’t stack up.

I can finally enjoy these announcements without having to secretly wish Super Mario Sunshine was the announcement. Haha

@kingbk I still like to play them. The platformers work, although most are Rare games and no longer apply (bar DK64).. Pokemon Snap is still fun. OOT and Majora’s Mask are great. Yoshi’s Story. Paper Mario, Diddy Kong Racing. I also still really enjoy the Mario sports games. And I still find Wave Race, F-Zero X, Lylat Wars, 1080 and Excitebike pretty solid.

The shooters have aged, and camera technology has come along.

And just like that...I have just s*@t my pants

Nice surprise. I hope picross is similar to the gameboy versions, that was A LOT of fun!

@Dringo I should clarify. I like the N64, but it just falls low on my list of Nintendo consoles I want to revisit. It's down there with the Wii for me. But different strokes.

@Cosats You're rather silly if you think this is an apt comparison. Emulators ARE preserving the games Nintendo doesn't care about. Ever heard of the Satellaview? Huge library of games, a lot of them exclusive and lost to time. Guess how many Nintendo has re-released? 1, and not even in its original form. Emulators are the only practical way to play those now. There's a ton of games like this, and some hardware like the Famicom Disk System is eventually going to be impossible to play original games on...they were recorded on floppies which aren't the most solid of storage media. Some of my original FDS games are already iffy in terms of whether they'll read. Only a matter of time before they're all dead and only playable via emulation or roms (like the FDSStick method).

Emulation guarantees that the games will always be playable, because the files can be backed up, copied, carried on to later computer hardware and still run. They directly aid in games preservation.

Also, emulation is not strictly illegal, or else emulator websites would all be DMCA'd by now. It's legal to make your own copies of games you own and run them on emulators, and while you may scoff at that thinking no one actually does that, I in fact do. One major reason for this is that it preserves the save files on cartridges that use a battery that otherwise would be lost forever when the battery dies.

Nintendo barely cares about its back catalog of games that don't have major characters on them, emulators have picked up the slack nintendo has left behind in that regard.

Remember how good Wii virtual console was? How the Wii U was still good but not quite as good? How the Switch's library of retro games now is kinda mediocre compared to either? Nintendo is almost regressing in terms of the games they are preserving.

@Apportal You say for once, but that smells a bit of trolling when the service just got Donkey Kong Country before that and already has many of the major classics on NES and SNES, like Super Mario World, Yoshi's Island, Super Metroid, A Link to the Past, etc.

@NotTelevision I think a Christmas holiday announcement of N64 titles being added would be a good way to bolster support without a lot of effort on their end. I'd dive into some Paper Mario immediately.

These titles look great. I'm especially looking forward to keeping my hands full with SCAT.

Please just give us street fighter II!!!!!

@ShadJV

It’s got more than just DKC2. It has a lot of great stuff not on the Classic like:

-Wild Guns
-Super Mario All-Stars
-Pop’n Twinbee
-Demon’s Crest
-Panel de Pon
-Pilotwings
-Puyo Puyo 2
-Super Tennis

There are literally entire genres that aren’t represented on the Classic.

@kingbk Nintendo 64 is Nintendo’s best console, especially if you want to play with friends. It has more really good games than any of Nintendo’s other consoles besides the SNES, and I find the games on 64 to be more fun.

Good ol' DKC2 and Mario Picross

@kingbk The N64 has definitely aged the worst, like many original PlayStation 3D titles. But the PlayStation had an ass whack of great 2D games, while the N64 did not. It was all that super chunky, horrible early 3D that looks worse today than even a lot of bad 2D.

That being said, a few games still look pretty good and are easier to revisit, like Paper Mario, Ogre Battle 64 and Kirby 64. Even a few more 3D focused titles, like Mario 64, Bomberman 64 and Diddy Kong Racing don't look bad. But many other classics are hard to go back to for me, even with all the fond memories.

@Trajan That definitely puts you in a pretty extreme minority. I've never known a person to argue that the N64 has the most good games compared to any other console. It almost feels like a prank. It had a small handful of great games, but definitely had the weakest library of any Nintendo system except maybe the Wii, which I feel like I'm unfairly biased against because I hate the Wii remote.

@RushDawg which is why I said “worthwhile”. None of those games come close to FFVI or SMRPG.

And honestly I don’t really count All Stars since it’s just a port of NES games (which are already available on the NES App and the NES Classic). It was redundant on the SNES App and, if we’re counting NES games, then of course the Switch has way more.

@Deltath I dunno if I'd say it has the greatest library but IMO it's definitely underrated by some people, small though it may be. There's a lot of stuff people overlooked that's really good on there. Nintendo rereleased some of it for the Wii like Sin and Punishment, but there's more good stuff on there than you would think. Mischief Makers is a favorite of mine that tends to get passed over a bit (not as much as some others, but it aged pretty damn well).

I could list about 50 pretty solid games for it that I enjoy playing. Maybe not as much as a console with games for days in its library like PS2 but enough to make it better than say the Gamecube for me.

And yeah a good few of them have camera issues, but I'd say again that more than you might think have a decent one or sidestep the issue!

On topic I guess these are two great additions, and it's good to see Nintendo isn't afraid of releasing JP games if theyre easily playable by westerners. The rate of new games is much slower than I'd like, but eh.

I mostly wanna see them release Gimmick on NES Online, since it's the best NES platformer IMO. Mainly just so people get exposed to it and now that Silius is on the console, which clearly shows they can release Sunsoft games and there should be no licensing issues. I own it, but more people need to play it, it's really good! Graphics and music better than Kirby but without any of the lag and better level design.

My hypothesis though is that their in-house emulator doesn't support 5B sound yet. No evidence for that claim, but wouldn't surprise me given the limitations of their NES Classic emu.

@Joeynator3000 that’s crazy Joey. You don’t get portability, rewinding is more difficult blah blah.

Everyone here knows (and those that don’t have the benefit of checking up posts of mine) that I’m a retro obsessive. I’ve not only got those SNES games on my modded SNES classic (with 32gb extra storage added via USB) but also on original carts.

Any who. It’s much better owning the SNES app than the classic for the online multiplayer, portable use, online save file backups.

I rarely ever read comments and post on this site as I find the demographic skews too young and too weird. I find the non-staff here grating. And posts like yours and big reminders why.

Other posts here too talking about how the “online service is now worth it” or “nearly worth it”. Christ’s sake. It’s what like £20 a year? I get it for my family. I know others go halves with partners so why not do that? It’s even less then like £15? I’m not sure on how much it costs any more. I just have it set to auto pay and I don’t look too closely at bills when they go out.

All I wish they’d add is Earthbound. I’ve never properly played it. Despite owning it on my
ahem 3DS, Wii U, SNES classic, nes classic hacked earlier (god those old hakchi days were bad. Super poor hack app).

Actually, I’ve always wanted to try scat...the nintendo game.

@nessisonett

You took the words right out of my mouth.

I totally get Square not putting up all their SNES titles up on NSO, but I feel like they've gotta be leaving a ton of money on the table by not just dropping the original versions of them on the eShop for, IDK, maybe as much as 25 bucks apiece? Maybe small quality of life additions or options to use the later translations if they wanted to be real fancy, but I'd definitely buy some of them anyway.

Putting Super Mario RPG on NSO alongside that would be a nice gesture. Unless they're saving it for a collection.

Anyway, DKC2 was about the last game I wanted - so much better than the first! - besides the Earthbounds. Hopefully they get to those so I can return to just wanting to play Square's back catalog.

Dkc2 was the best snes platformer for a lot of reasons. Rare deserve a chance to make another 2D platformer someday.

@Cosats they're not wrong tho, how else do people watch movies from the from the 1920's, or even music from decades ago? what if theres no way to buy them officially anymore, or have inflated prices on shopping websites? or if theyre fan translated like mother 3? do you wag your finger at those people too?

@Classic603 oh, it’s very well liked, I definitely know that. But it’s still underrated in that underrated means held in less esteem than it deserves. You’ll very rarely hear critics mention it in the same breath as A Link to the Past or Super Mario World and some outright write it off.

finally Nintendo! What a nice surprise

@CoastersPaul I think maybe if they don't redo the graphics or translate it or something else that may be a bit high for most people at $25 per game. Maybe just me though. Some games I would definitely do that for just cause I'm crazy about em but most probably not.

Aside from stuff like Trials of Mana that I think they sense a clear demand for, they seem mostly content to just put some of their mobile ports on Switch, which some like but I've had bad issues with in the past on PC (I didn't get the Chrono Trigger one, but that one was what finally did it and made people super angry till they fixed it), for me mainly issues with stuff like them leaving in touch screen UI which looks kinda ugly/the way the font was just kinda default in FFIII I think it was.

But a lot of SE's better stuff on SNES is just untranslated (officially) so unless they take up another effort like that it'll just never get seen. Besides the obvious like FFV and Dragon Quest III/V/VI (which got other versions but SNES ones remain untranslated officially in English AFAIK), games like Live a Live and Front Mission: Gun Hazard spring to mind. Definitely highly recommend those two particularly though, they are amazing RPGs.

Careful they might be emulated

DKC2 is a fantastic game and a great choice to add to the service, I'll be giving S.C.A.T. a go as well

@MeWario

That'd be horrible to hear someone write off DKC2. The soundtrack alone is amazing, and it beats out all other NES, SNES and N64 games for me

Here's hoping for some GB / GBA games being revealed on their own apps on September 25th for the 3 year NSO date

People that say “the n64 has aged terribly” grind my gears.... You can say that about any console when looking at certain aspects. The n64 has so many classics that still play better than a lot of modern titles. It had a deep library and some brilliant 3rd party titles along with the always brilliant Nintendo in house titles.

I can understand many young millenials saying the games have aged but they like fornite and loot boxes.

Diddy Kong racing, goldeneye, Rogue Squadron, beetle adventure racing, wave race, perfect dark, wwf no mercy these games still hold up and still good examples of how games should be made

@Stocksy I think you may be thinking of Gen Z there . I was born before the SNES was out and still considered a millennial lol. Grew up on NES, SNES, N64. NES still my favorite console aside from PC Engine but I greatly enjoyed my N64 (and it was mindblowing to see a game actually in 3D!).

Well, this is definitely getting better.

Next update: Gameboy and Gameboy Advance.

Mario's Super Picross had already been released in Europe on ALL THREE of Nintendo's previous digital storefronts. (Wii, Wii U and New 3DS) What was the holdup that it couldn't appear in North America on ANY of them?
I mean, it was just as easy to import a complete physical copy at nearly the same price then so it wasn't a huge loss, but seriously WHY...?!

That's actually incredible, I just finished DK Country yesterday, and it was my first DK game ever.

DKC 2! Wa-hoo! Yoshi’s Island, Super Mario World and Donkey Kong Country are, in all honesty, the only games I’ve played to completion via the online service... DKC2 will be the next! I’m very excited to play Mario Picross too

So pleased about dkc2 🥰

@Miyako ha. I grew up on those and I’m a gen X. I’m not sure with some of the boundaries. Z are too young to know better

I blame millennials but you get a pass to a proper gen. also it’s not “all millennials” and It was tongue in cheek. The N64 rocks. Ha

@AxeltheBuizel i was just thinkings same bit of a stinker of a game really lol

@Stocksy I still enjoy playing my N64, its only real issue is the framerates of some games. Mario 64 and Ocarina still play better then half the games I've played this generation.

Okay, everyone and anyone that still says that the Nintendo online service is garbage can go bite me, they're adding of my favorite games of all time!!!

@TimboSlice That will never happen because of Ultra Street Fighter 2 and Street Fighter 30th Collection!

SCAT? Really? Oh the nineties!

@Stocksy Yeah the boundary is a bit wide age-wise there for whatever reason, I find it all a bit silly. My first game was Zelda I, I remember drawing a map of the game on dot matrix paper haha. I will stand being blamed for all the world's ills, but not for a lack of love for retro games

The SNES was basically on the scene by the time I started playing games seriously, but NES games were easy to scoop up at yard sales and the like, so I ended up playing a lot more of them. I never could beat Zelda II till I was in college, not to mention Ninja Gaiden...

I'm old enough to remember those terrible RF adapters too...god I hated those things. They actually made composite look good somehow.

@Miyako Not to mention the costs of obtaining certain games.
I've used emulation to test out games and over time bought real copies of most of the games I enjoyed playing.

But is it really fair to be asked to pay $200+, all of it going to a reseller with no copyright ownership of the game, for some individual games?

And that is even ignoring that before about the mid 2000s, Japanese sellers often didn't list on ebay, so you didn't have as easy access to buy even some dirt-common games that weren't like Final Fantasy or Dragon Ball, let alone uncommon or rare games, when games were still even priced according to their value of actually playing them. Values weren't dictated by what some crazy rich guy wants to pay anything just to stick it on his shelf. Not unless it was something like Stadium Events or Nintendo World Championships, which honestly were more historical artificants than something you'd want to actually play much anyways. (I mean, I guess I could see NWC being fun for A FEW matches with a couple buds.)

Great! I'm glad they finally seem to be updating the service more frequently. And I love when they add some games I didn't even know about, so I can discover them.

@KingMike I definitely agree there, one of the reasons I would like some of these games to get ported over is simply that there is no legitimate way to play them that doesn't involve paying a third party that had no hand in making the game hundreds of dollars.

I've done it myself before, but I'm not gonna do that for every game that costs an arm and a leg out there.

And when Nintendo and some of these other companies refuse to acknowledge a lot of their back catalog exists and someone might want to play it, what can you do really? A lot of expensive games are games that got made after a newer console was out, so they got overlooked until later. A lot of those most people have never heard of and will never be exposed to, simply because companies just don't really care enough about preserving their catalogues. And they could easily be games most people would like if they tried them. Some of my favorite games now for old consoles are definitely games I hadn't heard of at the time and only heard of later on when looking for underrated stuff I hadn't tried.

@Classic603 Haha, it is horrible. Don’t ever listen to Retronauts talk about Donkey Kong! Man, the soundtrack is so special. The music to Arctic Abyss (I think that’s what it’s called) makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.

Great stuff - and I still believe a 3rd system will be added soon - defo by the end of the year.

Even with everyone rightfully talking about how good the Wii VC was... I don't care, I can play DKC2 on my switch now, and that is AMAZING. I have lots of ways to play lots of games...

Also excited to try a Picross game!

@kingbk I do have strong nostalgia for it. More so than any other machine. And I find the games still really playable.

I recently bought Beetle Adventure Racing. It really holds up.

Now just add Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI and it'll become perfect 👌

Finally Nintendo!!! Thanks for that baby!!!

Oh yes DKC2, that’s it I’m officially happy again 😄

@kingbk as a collector there is so much more to the n64 than just Mario 64. The visuals aren’t great but if you use s-video out and an upscale it looks pretty respectable almost emulation standard graphically I’d say.

Not fair, Nintendo. I've been eager for a new full run of DKC2, and you guys finally put it on the virtual SNES just three days before I can finally wrap Super Mario Sunshine in a "Welcome home!!" embrace?? Sensory overload!

I wonder if the latest Switch update would allow me to use "scat" in my nickname?

September marks 1 yr for SNES online!
And 2yr for Nes online!
Will we get N64 online as part of the direct?

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees! Finally DCK2! The best 2d platformer of all times.

We have nothing for ages and then they release these at the same time as Mario 3D All-stars? Why not release these games during the long summer drought instead of dumping it all at once? It really frustrates me that Nintendo still can't get this right after the months of nothing we'd get on the Wii U when a few VC releases would have helped massively.

Always wanted to try SCAT.....glad it's coming out....... hopefully it doesn't stink too much...

I want Gemfire(Royal blood)

This is a pretty solid selection! Very happy to have the 2nd DKC game!

Finally DKC2 at 60hz on a home Nintendo console in the UK. Rejoice!

@Lord

N64 will launch after March next year once 3D all stars has been removed from the eshop. Just hope we don't have to wait til September 2021.

Me: c'mon Nintendo, give us N64!

Also me: Oh! Dk country 2, noooice!

I was hoping for another platform at the 2 year NSO anniversary. N64 and GameCube are unlikely due to 3D All Stars (they can't launch those platforms without the Mario games, and they're not going to give them away free at the same time as trying to charge £50 for them), but maybe GB/GBC/GBA. Surely they wouldn't be too difficult to get on the Switch?

@SmartNickname Go for the second one. DK2 is way better than the first one.

I'll give Super Picross a spin.

I do love Picross but there’s not much this September to stop people’s annual subscriptions lapsing.

I was hoping for Gameboy games, or Earthbound, FFVI and Chrono Trigger. Something bigger.

@JoeDiddley
If you're doing the annual subscription only for the NES and SNES libraries, sure. Then they aren't offering much. I'm an Online family subscriber, but I don't even have the apps installed. ^^

I'll have to install the SNES app again to try out Picross. :v

Now all I need is DKC 3 before the next console arrives and they start over with the NES games again.

@Pod there is Mario 35 too I suppose. I don’t play online much but I will be renewing my subscription regardless.

I like having the NES and SNES games there but I don’t play retro games as much these days. They’re mainly for my kids ‘history of Mario’ lessons 😊

I’ve decided to play through A Link To The Past soonish so I’m making use of it.

Can't wait to get to 102% yet again in my favorite platformer of all time.

Super Picross is very fun and DKC2 is one of the finest 2D platformers ever made. Not bad.

On top of releasing Super Mario All-Stars, this is a great month for the SNES app.

More Picross is always good!

Alright that's nice but Earthbound, Terranigma and Chrono Trigger when?
Also pretty sure Mario Kart isn't on there yet either

@ShadJV

Not counting All-Stars isn’t really fair.

And as I said before, if RPGs are your thing, then the SNES Classic definitely has the better lineup.

If you’re not big on RPGs though, it really does become debatable. Demon’s Crest and Wild Guns are two of the best action games on the SNES. You’re definitely not giving them enough credit. Panel de Pon is another game you’re totally underrating. It’s the best puzzle game on SNES; arguably a Top 10 SNES game.

I have mario pi ross on wii virtual console (on my european wii(u)), so hasn’t been released like that in the us? Selection is really nice now... it is that i hacked my snes mini, other wise it would be gathering even more dust now..

DKC2 is my favourite SNES game and one of my favourite games ever. Really glad to see it up there. Other games look great too but am not sure about The Peace Keepers, those sound effects make me laugh.

I'm used to these updates being available the moment they're announced. Now I have to wait a whole weeeeeek? Boooooo!

I JUST completed the original one for the first time on NSO yesterday, so excellent timing. May have to wait a while to actually getting around to playing it though with all those Marios acoming.

I am so happy for DKC2. Now we need DKC3, Returns HD and finally a new Donkey Kong Country game for Switch!

Yay Picross!!!! Legit excited, not enough Picross.

@RushDawg Too messy to set up, plus it depends on what you plan to emulate. Even still, the shoddy online service is trash

How I miss Capcom amd Konami games on the NES service. Bionic Commando, Mega Man, Ducktales, Rescue Rangers, Contra, Castlevania, etc.
I know some of those I can buy separately (I've already dod with Mega man collection) but some classics are missed.

@Axlroselm no doubt I'll try it in the future

I currently don't have Nintendo Switch Online. None of my games really require it. I've been waiting for the N64 games to start my membership.

I wonder if Nintendo would bring over the other Japan exclusive Picross games. There was one on Satellaview and 8 mins on Nintendo's multi cart NP service.

I would really like it if we got donkey kong country 3

DKC2 is great and all, but what im really waiting is more nes top classics. Still waiting for the remaining DD, castlevania and Ninja gaiden games. Wouldnt mind tiny toons, duck tales, tmnt trilogy too!

@YoshiFlutterJump SUPER Star Stacker, that is. But man, this is exciting stuff! Gonna get my hopes up for DKC3 to complete the trilogy.

@Apportal you're joking, right?

Yaaay I'm glad they added DKC2. It's only a matter of time before the trifecta is complete

@Deltath there’s a reason people my age hold the 64 in such high regards. It might not appeal to zoomers , but the 64 has the best multiplayer and quick pick up games.

Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Blast Corps, Goldeneye, Diddy kong racing, Banjo Kazooie, Ocerina of Time, F-Zero X, BattleTanx 1 and 2, Perfect Dark, Banjo Tooie, Excitebike 64, Pokémon Stadium, Jet Force Gemini, DK64, Mario Party (any, until 6 they were all good), Majoras mask, Tony Hawk 1 and 2, Rainbow Six, Star Fox 64, Resident Evil 2, Wipeout 64, Ridge Racer 64, Wave Race 64, Yoshis Story, Killer instinct gold, Conkers bad fur day, The World is Not Enough, Rogue Squadron, and more I can’t think of off the top of my head.

Hell I will say the N64 has more games I actually would want to play than any other console.

@Mynameishello backing up saves on your computer is even better. Portability is overrated, but phones can emulate too. I see no raison d’etre for the snes app, but that’s just me.

When playing The Peace Keepers, I recommend switching from music to ambiance in the sound settings. There seems to be only one song in the entire game and it gets old fast.

@Trajan I don't know how old you are, but I suspect we're either close to the same age or I'm older. I just know how not to view games through nostalgia glasses and many 64 games just don't hold up because of the era of 3D they're from. Personally, I don't think even half of the games on your list could be considered good, let alone great. And almost none of them hold up today.

A shame Game Boy Picross 2 wasn't released internationally on 3DS. (like the original hardware, 1 was international, 2 was Japanese-exclusive)

My first time playing both Game Boy Picross games was on my two different region 3DSes.
I recall I enjoyed 2 better (though the one major change I immediately recall was super-sized puzzles, broken into multi-part levels).

@Deltath I still play my 64 regularly. Beat SF64 last night when I was bored. It still looks good on a crt or plasma tv. I’m 30.

All of those games I really like. Meanwhile I struggle to name 5 switch games I like.

@Apportal hmmm ok. Well, what I love about Nintendo is they don't follow trends and pretty much do whatever they want. Because of this, they have made TONS of fun, creative and unique games. Whether or not those games were made with fans in mind, I'm grateful for all of them and happy that Nintendo exists

Lol now that I think of it, Paper Mario is one series that I wish would get some better entries... The last few games strayed too far from its RPG roots. Ok, so if you ran Nintendo, what games would you have them make?

@Apportal This reminds me of when people were even upset the month they added Solomon's Key to NES Online (yes, I read several people saying that). It's a very good game but a lot of people just won't give it a chance, and it bums me out people just won't try them. A lot of the stuff they add that's not a super mainstream request is actually pretty good!

SCAT is actually a very good game (unfortunate title aside...)

I kinda wish they would port Adventures of Lolo 2 and 3 over as well, they are probably my favorite NES puzzle series and the first one is already up as far as I know. It teaches you one new mechanic at a time and it's just done really well overall. I always liked how it mixes action and puzzle solving.

@Trajan I guess it just comes down to preference. I'm 35 and I have a lot of trouble going back to my 64. Maybe it's because it wasn't my first console. I owned a Master System, NES, Atari 2600, SNES and a PlayStation before the N64 and I regularly played Genesis, Sega CD and Turbografx with friends. Going back to all of those systems (except Atari) is more enjoyable to me than N64. I still love Mario 64, Bomberman 64 (not even really a great game, but still fun), some of the Mario Party games, the Banjo games.. but much beyond that and I'd rather just play something else. From my perspective, a lot of those games have either better sequels (Mario Kart, personally Double Dash!! is my favorite, Rainbow Six, Resident Evil, etc) or remasters/remakes/ports that I'd rather play. And now with the 3D All*Stars set I don't see myself booting up Mario 64 again on the 64. Also, the portability of the Switch is so much better for my lifestyle now. It's hard with a family to get solo time in front of the TV (or at least I'm not willing to do so when my family is watching/playing/etc) and I'm busy/away a lot. That and I have dozens of games I absolutely love on Switch, which comes down to personal preference.

I will say this. It doesn't hold up for me today this way, but.. the N64 was the number one party system back when it was new. Countless four player nights of Mario Kart, Mario Party, GoldenEye, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Perfect Dark, Diddy Kong Racing, Smash, Clay Fighter, Wave Race and tons more. Even that ***** mode in DK 64. So I do have a lot of fond memories of it and if I could judge it based solely on how much I enjoyed it at the time versus how good I find most of them today, I would say it was my favorite multiplayer system. Though the Switch would be a close second and it's better for me in many other ways, especially as an RPG fan and considering what I actually want to play today.

@Deltath Yeah the portability of the switch really does nothing for me. I stopped liking handhelds when I was 10 or 11.

I do play mostly RPGs anymore, and yes Xenogears (Xeno is my favorite series) was on PS1, even then I still prefer the 64. I actually replayed Xenogears just last month.

I do agree that double dash is the best Mario kart.

My first console was an Atari 800XL, then NES, then game boy, and then finally 64. I didn’t get a SNES until I already had a 64, but I played it all the time at friends and families houses.

Like I said, no other console has as many games that I enjoy outside of 64. If it had a Xenogears and MGS port it would be even better, but it is what it is.

@Trajan I hated handhelds most of my life because they felt like really inferior gaming experiences and I'd rather just play on a TV. But as I've gotten older, I've seen the appeal of getting to play rather than not getting to play. I stopped having the free time to sit in front of the TV for hours on end when I finished high school.

But yeah, games are what you enjoy. If you like those the most, more power to you.

@Apportal Well, it sounded a bit to me like them not doing so in the past involved the other games they've added, a lot of which have been not as popular but still good. Apologies if I misread you, but it's just a common sentiment about these particularly (especially NES online).

@Apportal If you like platformers, I'd recommend vice: project doom (on NES online)! It has some genre mixing in there as well. It aged pretty well in my opinion.

One thing I have wished they would add is a fast forward though. Famicom Wars is still fun enough but the turns take so long that it's a turn-off in itself...

@MeWario

Bayou Boogie, Disco Train, Sticker Brush Symphony, Lockjaws Saga, the map theme, Forest Interlude, DKC2 has so many good songs

4 more titles? Oh my, whoupty doo Nintendo. I've been playing them on emulators way before the Switch online store and virtual console titles were a thing.

Are the characters in S.C.A.T. still unauthorized likenesses of Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sigourney Weaver, or did they remove the names in the Wii VC release? (I think they were left out of the PAL version, Action in New York)

@Miyako One turn-based strategy game I'd have like to play on the Famicom is Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water, but that has the slowest AI I've seen.
Also, that even for the first stage you'd probably have to replay it to grind out most of the player characters. The only character at the start who seems to have enough stats to do anything is the titular Nadia, and it's a gamble because you lose the moment she dies.

Wish they would add Zombies ate my neighbors for SNES and Contra for NES

@KingMike Yeah, strategy games from that time can be really bad with time it takes for turns. Fire Emblem 4, while being really good, suffers from this kinda badly as well.

yeah, now only dkc 3 is missing - but with 1 & 2 - i may have a reason to finally install the snes app ... never cared about the snes, but i've had one back in the days just for dkc 1,2 & 3 ;D for the other games i've only used my mega drive hahaha

@Don I sincerely doubt that’s going to happen they intentionally are moving away with eShop rereleases and towards the account model like Xbox live.

When they have a new console (which is probably not next year) you’ll just download the SNES app

Wake me up when EarthBound is added to SNES online...

Yes and Mother 3 too. But will that happen anytime soon....
no

I would like to play Guantlet 1-3 (Nes), please.

DKC2 is one my all time favorite SNES games, The Peace Keepers is a highly underrated beat-em-up with multiple paths, and SCAT is a pretty innovative (for its time) shooter. All nice picks. I don't know anything about Super Picross, but given how much time my wife spends playing various Picross games on her Switch Lite, she'll love it.

glad to see donkey kong country 2 finally arriving on switch. mario's super pircross is also a pleasant surprise

I know this is probably asking a lot, but all I really want on the snes thing is battletoads and double dragons, Saturday night slam master (definitely a shot in the dark though), and Turtles in time.

@jbreez00 you sir, have fine taste.

There is much more better NES/SNES games than these ones.

Hooray! Hooray!

Well, FINALLY. Now we need a new Donkey Kong Country game for Switch.

@DoktorTotenKopf Nah, we can't be bothered. thanks for playing though.

@RushDawg Not if you hack the SNES Mini.

I now have a nearly 200 games on my SNES Mini, a collection of the very best games from the following systems: SNES, Genesis/Mega Drive, PC Engine, Neo Geo, Arcade, Master System, NES, Game Boy, Game Boy Color and Game Boy Advance. I also bought a couple of controller extension cords and added a hack that lets me return to the main menu via holding Select plus down on the d-pad for half a second, which basically eliminates any of the minor issues it had by default and really rounds things off.

And there's just something special about playing the games with a genuine SNES wired controller chilling back on my couch in front of my TV like I originally did back in the day, and with no extraneous GUI crap on the screen stopping me from seeing them basically as purely as they can be seen on a modern display.

The SNES Mini is pretty much now my favourite console ever, being a nigh-on perfect little SNES console first and foremost, that also runs all my favourite '90s games from other systems too.

I absolutely love my SNES Mini.

Why do they keep forgetting about Mario Kart and Earthbound

@jbreez00
Battletoads is simply an awesome game as well as Double Dragon. Two early classics that still hold up. I spent many nights playing Battletoads and laughing my head off playing multplayer.

I'm happy to see DKC2 and Picross make it!

Much needed.
They should do Gameboy advance and also N64 and Gameboy and really go for it with the library for paying members.
And strike while the irons hot and the Switch is in full swing.

@Joriss Heh, why thank you.

@Zidentia I belueve there's already at pesst one douboe dragon game on the switch I hope yhey get around to adding Doubpe dragon 3, but when I say battletoads and double dragon I specifically mean the crossover game they had. It was pretty over the top, but one of my favorite beat em ups as a kid.

@Deliesh
I don’t think Perfect Dark will get released on the Switch. The other N64 games you mentioned have a chance.

Anyone notice that Peacekeepers has no BGM? Maybe it’s just me. Was it always like that?

Woah, WOAH there Nintendo, slow down! You keep going at that rate, and you're going to run out of games before the end of the switch's lifespan! Leave a little for next time!

@Joeynator3000 if you have the snes controller and the switch hooked up to the tv what’s the difference

@YANDMAN why did you tag me? I’m not part of this thread.

Yay! Now I want a new Donkey Kong Country game!

@MadmanMike One of MANY changes Jaleco made to the game during localization from the Japanese version was turning the music into ambient background noise, probably in some effort to give the game more "edge" or something. Definitely a dumb change on their part.

Also, it's hilarious how Rival Turf (the first Rushing Beat game in the same series as Peace Keepers and Brawl Brothers) got totally passed over for SNES Online upload. Even they know it's just a weak, weak game.

I'm pretty hyped about this update, DKC2 is one of my favourite games of all time. I'm also a huge Fire Emblem fan, I already played through the first couple chapters of Book 1. I don't understand a word of Japanese, but I learned how to navigate the menu easily enough and used a couple screenshots of the translation patch to know which stats are which.

@DoktorTotenKopf huh????/ Tag you in what??

@DoktorTotenKopf I answered your question, you posted at the top of the page, that's what happens. it's not a tag, it's an answer.

@Skyman19 Chrono Trigger is definitely something they need to add to NSO, especially when it wasn't released on Wii U virtual console or the SNES mini.

@jbreez00
Ah, still a good game.

@MadmanMike @Sabrewing The missing music is a really weird decision, but you can turn it back on in the options menu.

@wazlon More likely Squenix would sell it on its own. They haven't supported the NSO at all, instead reselling Collection of Mana, Romancing SaGa 2 & 3, the upcoming Game Boy SaGa collection...

I can't wait to play with scat.

@AlexanderDaniels I didn't see it when I went on the other day
Am I blind

@MadmanMike You have to enable music in the options menu; it's set to background sound effects by default. It's really stupid. EDIT: I see a couple people already brought this up. I'm too slow.

The Japanese version is way better- for one thing it has more music and it's a lot more invigorating than the small handful in the U.S. version. A shame that version couldn't have gone on the service instead.

@KingMike Wouldn’t the hold-up be that Nintendo was, and still is, too frugal to localize and translate the game to English? Had they’ve done that, sales would have been guaranteed in NAmin the Virtual Console.

That being said, I continue to think they’re being ridiculous bringing in games that nobody understands to play unless you know Japanese.

No. I'm never excited for Nintendo's crummy rental service. I prefer to own my games and this and DKC3 should have been on the SNES Classic. Fortunately I have them both on the U.

@MeWario What? Its one of the most popular games of all time and always makes Best 100 SNES Games lists.

@Magrane Can't recall which game I was mentioning.
Was it Mario's Super Picross for SNES? Zero reason for them to release it on PAL Wii/WiiU/N3DS VC and not North America.

Picross 2 GB? About equal to MSP in terms of playability.
Although I do recall joking on Miiverse that, one puzzle that was a dude was sitting on a toilet, might have been one (ultra-sensitive) NoA would've replaced if they released it back in the day.
Maybe these days Nintendo wouldn't be as bothered about something not-so-squeaky-clean.

@KingMike yeah it was Mario’s Super Picross. So there are actual English language versions of this game? If so, why wouldn’t they release that version instead?

Thanks for that additional info!

@Magrane It's probably just the Japanese version, I assume.
One of those games they figured was playable enough without translation (the tutorial would be the big thing, if you don't know how to play Picross already).