So it may just be another Gamecube. MK8 and SSB I don't have much faith in doing much, but I could be easily wrong- bias kind of playing into it, as I've never seen the point of such games.
I still don't have any next-gen console. Will get Wii U next year, PS4 the year after that. I'm waiting for Wii U to get Zelda and Metroid, and PS4 to get a stronger library. I honestly think Zelda and Metroid will never get old for me.
I thought 3D World would up sales, but with this news and the news that Knack of all games outsold it, things are looking grim for Wii U.
I still have yet to have any Next-Gen consoles, but definitely plan on getting both Wii U and a PS4. Wii U may not sell well, but at least I know a Zelda is coming, and hopefully a Metroid, both of which interest me more than if I have the most popular console.
Well, this conversation certainly took a turn for the worse.
COD:G is probably going to be just as horrible as the rest of the ports the Wii U has gotten. They're always half-baked from what I can tell, and usually released later than their Sony and Microsoft counterparts (which you'd think would mean better quality but of course not).
They need to step up their game for this Holiday if they are going to have any chance of trying to make any progress with sales of the Wii U.
Hoping for a 5-year console, so sales better skyrocket (please use absolute values instead of %'s, percentages are misleading) if they're aiming for that.
I wasn't really a fan of the motion controls of the Wii in the first place. If you want my opinion, Wii U looks more innovative (play games on the Wii U gamepad? Awesome). The Wii U has a great chance to win this Holiday season due to some pretty good gaming gems plus the recent price cut on hardware. Overall, I find Wii U more my kind of gameplay. PS4 and X1 won't just lay down though, Nintendo will have to get some great IPs out there this Holiday and into the first half of 2014.
A lot of doom and gloom talk about PS4 and X1 too. They're going to be in the same place as Wii U was at launch- not enough games. Sure ACIV, COD, and Battlefield will help a bit for some, but I foresee a huge jump in software sales starting with the new inFamous and continuing after that. Don't get me wrong, I love Nintendo, but when it comes to third party support, companies are reluctant to join in, especially when they can use the "it ain't next-gen" argument.
I believe the current price is great. $299.99 is the price-point I wanted the Deluxe Wii U at.
I think the other big problem is games. Third parties are hesitant to work with Nintendo for big games, which I don't understand at all. And major Nintendo IPs I care about are just now starting to be talked about (Zelda U and Metroid U - takemymoney.jpg)
2DS looks alright, but I've owned a 3DS since before any price cuts.
The Wii U now looks appetizing to me as a system. I'm not getting WWHD, no matter how many tweaks they make, it's still basically the same game.
The Virtual Console has tons of good games for it, but not exactly how I want to exclusively use a system until a new Zelda, Metroid, or Shinobi (please, I want a new Shinobi console game!)
As for the Wii U "last gen-old gen" argument, seeing as most of the engines are scalable, it's a moot point. But I consider Wii U new generation, just really light on how new they went spec-wise.
PS4 is $399 and already has a lot more interesting games for it listed.
Wii U has no new Zelda (coming out next year apparently) and no Metroid. Seriously, it peeves me off that we need 500 Mario's and Donkey Kong's.
I don't care too much about specs though that doesn't help the case for Nintendo. PS4 is going to be way more powerful (~4x) than PS3, while Wii U is barely (~1.5x) more powerful than a PS3.
Not to mention the lack of stable third-party support for Wii U which compounds it even more.
I still don't have a system seller for Wii U. I haven't loved a Mario game since the SNES days, I LOVE Wind Waker, but an HD version does not sell the game (which I've played to death) or the system.
I think the triple threat for me would be the following Wii U Titles: (a new) Shinobi, (a new) Metroid, (a new) Zelda. That would convince me to buy a Wii U earlier than I expected.
I really want a price drop at least by next year. I understand they're selling at a loss, but PS4 is going to really look appetizing to a lot of people this holiday due to price.
The system isn't even a year old and they're asking for a price drop? That totally destroys the point of putting the 349 dollar tag on it at all. They're already selling at a loss, a price cut in 2013 would be tough to pull off.
I didn't expect a huge performance boost over anything from another company, just over the Wii. It's more powerful than the current-gen Sony and Microsoft consoles, go figure, that's why Wii U is a NEXT generation system.
Rayword, I agree. What is the point of downloading a game onto two devices? This is extremely hurr durr, if the point of putting something on an EHD is because of lack of space, you shouldn't have to keep the game on the lack of space device.
That video made me bored to death. And the music was just annoying. It seems like they're trying to market to fans of the Wii, though I see some people think 3rd party games somehow makes this a strawman. The deal is, this is the message I got "Liked the motion controls of Wii? Get Wii U!" At least, that's what I got from it. An i hated the Wiimote, but I'm a loyal Nintendo fan and want some of the exclusives.
I think comparing the two generations (PS3/Xbox 360 and Wii U) is silly.
And I do think 300+ dollars for any system is expensive. I have other things to think about buying, however small an impact they may have on my pocketbook, they add up in the end- and adding 300 dollars to that figure is not what I want.
As for PS4/Xbox 720, yes, they'll be more powerful than the Wii U, and cost more, but we have to compare the numbers of 1.5x stronger to 3x stronger (I've heard higher, but let's just say 3x stronger). It's the same thing most of the other people are saying, we can get a 1.5x less strong last generation system for a better price- we never said it was comparing apples to apples, which is why I said it was silly.
I'm thinking it's hard to imagine what the Wii U will be capable of, though most analysts put it at 50% more powerful than the PS3/Xbox 360. Most of my concern is price. I got the 3DS seven months after it came out, I'm waiting a few years to get any new console, even if the graphics take a huge crap on PS3 and Wii; the first-party games are going to Wii U, while Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Prince of Persia, Devil May Cry, etc. are going to PS3/PS4. I'm hoping Wii U/PS4 come with digital download for every major title, I sincerely don't want any more room taken up by my games, I'd rather have an EHD that can be played from.
I highly, highly doubt this will come to be true. Nintendo put enormous amounts of effort into Wii U- I don't think they could do a Wii U 2 just 2-3 years down the road, they'd tax themselves way too much for probably little gain. They're betting on Wii U to sell well. Very well.
I'm an exponentially bigger fan of the Gamepad than the Wiimote, but that's not saying much considering the Wiimote was an atrocious mess- and the best thing is that you need to buy another controller to play any VC games. And finding the perfect place for the wireless receiver is always a great thing to have to put up with when you move rooms once or twice a year.
If the Gamepad is as big of a pain to control, I will become even more vicious against these wireless controls. I pray it doesn't come to that.
Looking at gameplay footage of Resident Evil 6, I wouldn't pick it up on any system- and even if I got it for free I have better games coming out/to replay.
The last major console Resident Evil I enjoyed thoroughly was Resident Evil 3... 4 I could stand, 5 I didn't play because of the same reasons I wouldn't play 6.
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Re: Retro Studios Talks Up Wii U And Has Been Working On A New Title Since November
Wouldn't be interested unless it was a Metroid game. Preferably not a Prime title, as I can only kill Dark Samus so many times.
An Other M-type gamestyle with significantly less story, less talking, and tons of tweaks and I'll buy it before I buy a Wii U!
Re: Nintendo Confirms Major Reductions In Sales and Financial Projections
So it may just be another Gamecube. MK8 and SSB I don't have much faith in doing much, but I could be easily wrong- bias kind of playing into it, as I've never seen the point of such games.
I still don't have any next-gen console. Will get Wii U next year, PS4 the year after that. I'm waiting for Wii U to get Zelda and Metroid, and PS4 to get a stronger library. I honestly think Zelda and Metroid will never get old for me.
Re: PS4 and Xbox One Surpass Wii U Lifetime Sales in the UK
I thought 3D World would up sales, but with this news and the news that Knack of all games outsold it, things are looking grim for Wii U.
I still have yet to have any Next-Gen consoles, but definitely plan on getting both Wii U and a PS4. Wii U may not sell well, but at least I know a Zelda is coming, and hopefully a Metroid, both of which interest me more than if I have the most popular console.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds Squeezes Into UK All-Format Top 10
Software-wise Nintendo will hold it's own. Console units sold is where PS4 will undoubtedly thrive on the 29th.
Re: Xbox One UK Sales Set to Pass Wii U's Lifetime to Date Figures
If Super Mario 3D World and the other games don't start selling Wii U's, especially with Black Friday around the corner, I don't know what will.
Re: Happy Birthday, Wii U - You're One Today
Happy 1 year Wii U! May your sales soar!
Re: Wii U Players Won't Be Able To Join A Clan In Call Of Duty: Ghosts
Well, this conversation certainly took a turn for the worse.
COD:G is probably going to be just as horrible as the rest of the ports the Wii U has gotten. They're always half-baked from what I can tell, and usually released later than their Sony and Microsoft counterparts (which you'd think would mean better quality but of course not).
Re: Nintendo Financial Reports Bring Minor Profit, 3DS Success and More Wii U Struggles
They need to step up their game for this Holiday if they are going to have any chance of trying to make any progress with sales of the Wii U.
Hoping for a 5-year console, so sales better skyrocket (please use absolute values instead of %'s, percentages are misleading) if they're aiming for that.
Re: Soapbox: The Wii Changed The Face of Gaming, Before The Console Industry Promptly Forgot Its Lessons
I wasn't really a fan of the motion controls of the Wii in the first place. If you want my opinion, Wii U looks more innovative (play games on the Wii U gamepad? Awesome). The Wii U has a great chance to win this Holiday season due to some pretty good gaming gems plus the recent price cut on hardware. Overall, I find Wii U more my kind of gameplay. PS4 and X1 won't just lay down though, Nintendo will have to get some great IPs out there this Holiday and into the first half of 2014.
A lot of doom and gloom talk about PS4 and X1 too. They're going to be in the same place as Wii U was at launch- not enough games. Sure ACIV, COD, and Battlefield will help a bit for some, but I foresee a huge jump in software sales starting with the new inFamous and continuing after that. Don't get me wrong, I love Nintendo, but when it comes to third party support, companies are reluctant to join in, especially when they can use the "it ain't next-gen" argument.
Re: Nintendo UK: Awareness Is The Real Issue With The Wii U, Not Price
I believe the current price is great. $299.99 is the price-point I wanted the Deluxe Wii U at.
I think the other big problem is games. Third parties are hesitant to work with Nintendo for big games, which I don't understand at all. And major Nintendo IPs I care about are just now starting to be talked about (Zelda U and Metroid U - takemymoney.jpg)
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Surprises Us All With the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut
2DS looks alright, but I've owned a 3DS since before any price cuts.
The Wii U now looks appetizing to me as a system. I'm not getting WWHD, no matter how many tweaks they make, it's still basically the same game.
The Virtual Console has tons of good games for it, but not exactly how I want to exclusively use a system until a new Zelda, Metroid, or Shinobi (please, I want a new Shinobi console game!)
As for the Wii U "last gen-old gen" argument, seeing as most of the engines are scalable, it's a moot point. But I consider Wii U new generation, just really light on how new they went spec-wise.
Re: Wii U Hardware Still Being Sold At A Loss
@element187
I've heard anywhere from "it's less powerful than PS3" to "it's 19x more powerful." Honestly I saw the "50% more powerful" figure used the most.
Re: Wii U Hardware Still Being Sold At A Loss
PS4 is $399 and already has a lot more interesting games for it listed.
Wii U has no new Zelda (coming out next year apparently) and no Metroid. Seriously, it peeves me off that we need 500 Mario's and Donkey Kong's.
I don't care too much about specs though that doesn't help the case for Nintendo. PS4 is going to be way more powerful (~4x) than PS3, while Wii U is barely (~1.5x) more powerful than a PS3.
Not to mention the lack of stable third-party support for Wii U which compounds it even more.
Re: Iwata: Getting The Attention Of Gamers Is Harder Than Ever
It's hard only because there are no games for it, and the fact that half the world hasn't seen a Wii U commercial that made any sense.
Re: Iwata Looking To Return To "Nintendo-Like Profits" This Financial Year
I still don't have a system seller for Wii U. I haven't loved a Mario game since the SNES days, I LOVE Wind Waker, but an HD version does not sell the game (which I've played to death) or the system.
I think the triple threat for me would be the following Wii U Titles: (a new) Shinobi, (a new) Metroid, (a new) Zelda. That would convince me to buy a Wii U earlier than I expected.
Re: Soapbox: Why We Should Expect More From The Legend Of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
While the game is tied for my favorite LoZ game with Skyward Sword and Majora's Mask, I won't be investing in a game just because "Ooo HD."
Re: Waiting For Wii U To Drop In Price? Not Going To Happen, Says Nintendo
I really want a price drop at least by next year. I understand they're selling at a loss, but PS4 is going to really look appetizing to a lot of people this holiday due to price.
Re: Interview: Michael Pachter On Wii U, 3DS And The Challenges Facing Nintendo This Generation
199 bucks for Wii U? So we're selling at a loss at 349.99, so the obvious solution is to... Be in a bigger deficit?
Re: Review: Mega Man 3 (3DS eShop / NES)
My second favorite classic Mega Man game, right after 9. The start screen music is so epic.
Re: Talking Point: The Pros and Cons of a Wii U Price War
The system isn't even a year old and they're asking for a price drop? That totally destroys the point of putting the 349 dollar tag on it at all. They're already selling at a loss, a price cut in 2013 would be tough to pull off.
Re: U.S. February Sales Figures Make Grim Reading for Wii U and Wider Industry
There isn't a single game I want on the system right now, so...
Get good quality Zelda and Metroid games on the system plus a price drop and I will buy it without thinking twice.
Re: Nintendo Europe Working On Fix For Wii U eShop 18+ Restriction
Considering I want to download my games when I get Wii U, this is good news.
Re: 18-Rated Content on Wii U eShop Only Accessible for Four Hours a Day
Third party sales will just be skyrocketed by this tactic. Come on guys, it makes total sense to do this. #sarcasm
Re: Mass Effect Trilogy Could Yet Come To Wii U
They are milking Nintendo for the third as long as possible, then they'll give them the Trilogy most likely.
Re: Wii U Has "Plenty Of Power" According To Team Ninja
I didn't expect a huge performance boost over anything from another company, just over the Wii. It's more powerful than the current-gen Sony and Microsoft consoles, go figure, that's why Wii U is a NEXT generation system.
Re: Wii U Software Storage on USB Devices Detailed
Rayword, I agree. What is the point of downloading a game onto two devices? This is extremely hurr durr, if the point of putting something on an EHD is because of lack of space, you shouldn't have to keep the game on the lack of space device.
Re: Watch: First US Wii U Advert Appears
That video made me bored to death. And the music was just annoying. It seems like they're trying to market to fans of the Wii, though I see some people think 3rd party games somehow makes this a strawman. The deal is, this is the message I got "Liked the motion controls of Wii? Get Wii U!" At least, that's what I got from it. An i hated the Wiimote, but I'm a loyal Nintendo fan and want some of the exclusives.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Wii U Will Be Sold At A Loss
@Alphalchimoru
Unsure if directed towards me. But I didn't get PS3 until 2010, so I don't see a strawman anywhere in my reply.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Wii U Will Be Sold At A Loss
I might as well put my $.02 in.
I think comparing the two generations (PS3/Xbox 360 and Wii U) is silly.
And I do think 300+ dollars for any system is expensive. I have other things to think about buying, however small an impact they may have on my pocketbook, they add up in the end- and adding 300 dollars to that figure is not what I want.
As for PS4/Xbox 720, yes, they'll be more powerful than the Wii U, and cost more, but we have to compare the numbers of 1.5x stronger to 3x stronger (I've heard higher, but let's just say 3x stronger). It's the same thing most of the other people are saying, we can get a 1.5x less strong last generation system for a better price- we never said it was comparing apples to apples, which is why I said it was silly.
Re: Nintendo Targets 5.5 Million Wii U Sales This Financial Year
I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen. Possible? Yes. Probable? No.
Re: Rayman Creator Says Wii U is "Surprisingly Powerful"
I'm thinking it's hard to imagine what the Wii U will be capable of, though most analysts put it at 50% more powerful than the PS3/Xbox 360. Most of my concern is price. I got the 3DS seven months after it came out, I'm waiting a few years to get any new console, even if the graphics take a huge crap on PS3 and Wii; the first-party games are going to Wii U, while Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Prince of Persia, Devil May Cry, etc. are going to PS3/PS4. I'm hoping Wii U/PS4 come with digital download for every major title, I sincerely don't want any more room taken up by my games, I'd rather have an EHD that can be played from.
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Depreciation is my friend.
Re: The Wii U Nintendo Network Will Connect to EA's Origin
There are worse things in this world.
Re: MCV: Wii U Is A Stopgap System, Real Successor Is Still To Come
I highly, highly doubt this will come to be true. Nintendo put enormous amounts of effort into Wii U- I don't think they could do a Wii U 2 just 2-3 years down the road, they'd tax themselves way too much for probably little gain. They're betting on Wii U to sell well. Very well.
Re: Wii U GamePad Wireless Range is "Fine Within The Same Space"
I'm an exponentially bigger fan of the Gamepad than the Wiimote, but that's not saying much considering the Wiimote was an atrocious mess- and the best thing is that you need to buy another controller to play any VC games. And finding the perfect place for the wireless receiver is always a great thing to have to put up with when you move rooms once or twice a year.
If the Gamepad is as big of a pain to control, I will become even more vicious against these wireless controls. I pray it doesn't come to that.
Re: Talking Point: Games That Need Wii U - Resident Evil 6
Looking at gameplay footage of Resident Evil 6, I wouldn't pick it up on any system- and even if I got it for free I have better games coming out/to replay.
The last major console Resident Evil I enjoyed thoroughly was Resident Evil 3... 4 I could stand, 5 I didn't play because of the same reasons I wouldn't play 6.