I think some people here are being a little overreactive. I was hoping for an VC release as well, but didn't you people see this coming? After the great holiday season (Late October-late December), didn't you people seriously not expect an no-VC week update?
I personally think this week is okay, but I'm not complaining about not having an VC week because we probably already have hundreads of solid games on the service.
@Dragoon: Factor 5 still exist, but there American branch is gone. Only the German one remains, so it's not like all there future projects have been canned. And who knows, maybe they will finally unlock the potential of the Wii even further.
"How does having some more of GoldenEye's maps in the XBLA version of Perfect Dark make GoldenEye less likely for Virtual Console?"
Yeah, this. The game was near impossible anyway and I wouldn't be surprise if Nintendo was ignoring this and left this game alone. Heck, I wouldn't be surprise if Nintendo did allow Diddy Kong Racing and Donkey Kong 64 to be released on the Xbox Live Arcade without there permission. After, they were made by Rare, right?
@Tony: I wouldn't say Rare hates Nintendo and the Virtual Console. If they did, then they would be constantly ***** out at them and we wouldn't even have gotten the Donkey Kong Country trilogy. They probably just don't care about Nintendo now.
Also, regardless of comments, it is possible to go as a Wii-only owner this generation (Current-gen consoles). Take KnuckleSonic8, Mastergraveheart, Link-Hero, and many other.
This was an very good article to read. I'll explain myself.
I started gaming regularly just before the new millenium so I am probably not the most knowledgable gamer. However, I do know quite a few things about gaming, especially with Nintendo 64, SNES, and the Nintendo Wii. Being an loyal supporter of Nintendo (Even to the point that I'm delaying an PS3 purchase to get an Nintendo 64 first), I have to say that I am quite satisfied with Nintendo of today, despite the thousands of hate comments that are spread all over the Internet. However, that doesn't mean I have no beefs with the company.
One of the biggest problems I have with Nintendo is the Virtual Console. So far, I have been extremely disappointed with the Nintendo 64 catelouge as it is my favorite video game system and I have almost officially given up hope that it'll actually mature like it's predecessors. Because of this, I will be saving up money for an Nintendo 64. However, other sections have been doing at least okay.
But the main thing we're talking about is quality control on the Wii. First off, we need to account for the Nintendo DS as well. Everyone is too focused on consoles and sometimes pretend to forget handhelds. It's like this. If you don't like the main course (Wii), try the side (DS). Prehaps you'll like the meal. You can also try the deserts as well (Older systems).
Something like that. On to my second point, the games on the Wii. To be brutally honest, I really cannot keep up with the amount of great games for the system. However, there are also tons of shovelware available as well and they actually sell, which is the problem. Why are shovelwares like the Game Party Series doing so well while great, original games like Excitebots: Trick Racing bomb so horribly? My answer to that is the almost total lack of adversiting. While a small part of it is Nintendo's fault, they shouldn't completely be blamed for it. When I mean "small part", I mean a failure to adversite some of there games. The rest is the responsibilty of third-party games, and they are failing that miserably. This should explain why some third-party companies are docking out on Nintendo (EA Sports, Ubisoft (Not confirmed), maybe Sega).
It's because of third-party laziness that is pulling the Wii down and ruining Nintendo's reputation with critics and gamers. That's the main reason.
However, this has happen before. The Atari 2600 obviously had this problem. While the Nintendo Entertainment System is hailed as the savior of the gaming industry, it had a flood of shovelware as bad if not worse then the Wii. The Playstation and Playstation 2 also had this problem. The only leading console that did not suffer from boatload of garbage is the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (The Sega Genesis arguably has more shovelware then the SNES).
However, this is possible to repeat again. Nintendo probably saw this coming so they might be trying to correct it next generation with the next Nintendo console. If the next console performs and SNES, we might see the best video game system since the SNES, providing if the console wins eight-gen. However, I also do predict an intense console war between Nintendo and Sony, just like fourth-gen with Nintendo and Sega. Only that there will be a lot more arguing, the Internet will be even more on the two consoles, better games, and possibly nastier campaign. Either way, I think both companies will put forth all efforts this generation.
But what about Microsoft? If the Playstation 3 successfully takes over the Xbox 360 in the 2nd place spot, we could see Microsoft dropping out of the console manufacturing business and focusing solely on PC gaming. EA Sports and/or Activision will take Microsoft spot.
But I'm getting off-topic here, so I'll end my post with this.
Do I think Nintendo needs to exercise more quality controls? I would say yes. However, I do have a feeling they're going to do it next-gen when they know they have the potential to perform an SNES-like quality or better.
Whoo Hoo! My 4th most wanted game is finally on the Virtual Console! Thanks Sega, now I need to get an Wii Point Card and download this AND Sonic The Hedgehog 3 to create the ultimate beast of a game.
I personally think this game is severely overrated, no offense. It's still a good game, but not what I call fantastic. Neverthless, happy 20th birthday to Super Mario Bros. 3!
I have an moderately high expectation for the Media Summit. I'm expecting more information on games we already know about (And finally some on Pikimin 3 and Golden Sun DS). We could also see a couple of new games announced there, according to the Media Summit of October, 2008.
@edhe: While I do think it's likely that we might see it on the VC, I don't think it's big enough to be reconfirmed to the public just yet. And beside, unconfirmed legal issues. However, I wouldn't rule this out yet since the Media Summit isn't as important as E3, but still, the chances of that happening is very slim.
@mastergraveheart: This isn't E3 2010, so I think you're expecting much beyond what Nintendo would ever offer outside of E3. The only games that have a slight possibility is an Earthbound on VC release, Kirby Wii annoucement, Startropic return, and a Star Fox Wii confirmation. Even then, these are really a strech.
The Virtual Console has been extrememly underepresented in general, especially by Nintendo. I'm also interested in all of these games, so I say yes to all of them.
@LegendofPasta99 and Raylax: The less we talk about the casino's levels in the Sonic games, the better. If Europeans gets overreactive enough, they'll sue Nintendo and Sega butts off for Sonic 2 and 3 casino's references on the Virtual Console and be force to pull them off the Virtual Console.
While there isn't anything really special in my opinion, it's not bad at all. You people are obviously complaining way too much. @SSB Fan 12: You just made a better comment then most people here today.
Guys, Deep Sliver is the publisher. The company that should have gone under is Sproing, because they are the develper. Should you change the article title?
Looks Like Capcom really wants this game to succeed. Question, does the Classic Controller Pro require another Wii Remote? If not, then I'm getting the bundle.
About time someone steps up and make an article on how to connect online and on an popular site. The more people that knows, the better. Nintendo needs to encourage online more.
@Shiryu: My Wii has been on standon for months and I haven't notice much of a problem on it. Prehaps it's because I got a Wii on April 22, 2007. I keep that on because I want to be able to get informed when I get an message.
@Stuffgamer1: Actually, there was a port planned for the Wii and Windows Vista to go along it, but they were scrapped. So it is an HD console exclusive, but it originally wasn't.
What an terrible update. Unless Nintendo is planning to do an WiiWare week and VC Week following, each with at least two games, I'm not really excited.
North Americans, don't be surprise if we don't get an Virtual Console game this upcoming Monday.
@cheapogamer4life: Actually it can get a lot worse. For all we know, they could cancel the Virtual Console.
Very, very interesting to hear. I have heard of most of those console and that they were an card company, but I've never looked up information in depth.
Normally, with a bad Virtual Console week like this, I would complain. However, after an great holiday season from November to December for the VC and the fact that we have an good WiiWare week today, I'll just pretend this week didn't exist. Complaining isn't really worth it this week.
Does Dynamac Action Slash rings a bell? Nintendo is supporting mature games from other companies, they just don't make them often. And remember, they helped you adversite in France. At least Capcom learned from there mistakes.
@Dazza: Well that's good to hear. But considering that the USK didn't rate this game, should someone in Germany check for it's availability in the Virtual Console? And why would violence be considered an licensing issues?
BTW, with the removal of licensed characters, I think Revenge of the Shinobi should have cost 700 Wii Points.
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Re: Nintendo Download: 22nd February 2010 (North America)
OMG! Oh Noez. No VC games! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!
I think some people here are being a little overreactive. I was hoping for an VC release as well, but didn't you people see this coming? After the great holiday season (Late October-late December), didn't you people seriously not expect an no-VC week update?
I personally think this week is okay, but I'm not complaining about not having an VC week because we probably already have hundreads of solid games on the service.
Re: Rogue Listing On Retailer Website
If the rumor is true, hope this is an good game.
@Dragoon: Factor 5 still exist, but there American branch is gone. Only the German one remains, so it's not like all there future projects have been canned. And who knows, maybe they will finally unlock the potential of the Wii even further.
Re: Upcoming Media Summit Promises Surprises, Hype
There are tons of possibilities. The question is, what will be reveil and will Nintendo deliever?
So it'll be on February 28th, 2010, right? Will there be live viewings? If so, I want to find a place.
Re: XBLA Perfect Dark Getting GoldenEye Maps and Weapons
"How does having some more of GoldenEye's maps in the XBLA version of Perfect Dark make GoldenEye less likely for Virtual Console?"
Yeah, this. The game was near impossible anyway and I wouldn't be surprise if Nintendo was ignoring this and left this game alone. Heck, I wouldn't be surprise if Nintendo did allow Diddy Kong Racing and Donkey Kong 64 to be released on the Xbox Live Arcade without there permission. After, they were made by Rare, right?
@Tony: I wouldn't say Rare hates Nintendo and the Virtual Console. If they did, then they would be constantly ***** out at them and we wouldn't even have gotten the Donkey Kong Country trilogy. They probably just don't care about Nintendo now.
Also, regardless of comments, it is possible to go as a Wii-only owner this generation (Current-gen consoles). Take KnuckleSonic8, Mastergraveheart, Link-Hero, and many other.
Re: Trackmania Building Speed
If that confirmed online play, then it's safe to say it's worth supporting.
Re: Talking Point: Does Nintendo Need to Exercise More Quality Control on the Wii?
This was an very good article to read. I'll explain myself.
I started gaming regularly just before the new millenium so I am probably not the most knowledgable gamer. However, I do know quite a few things about gaming, especially with Nintendo 64, SNES, and the Nintendo Wii. Being an loyal supporter of Nintendo (Even to the point that I'm delaying an PS3 purchase to get an Nintendo 64 first), I have to say that I am quite satisfied with Nintendo of today, despite the thousands of hate comments that are spread all over the Internet. However, that doesn't mean I have no beefs with the company.
One of the biggest problems I have with Nintendo is the Virtual Console. So far, I have been extremely disappointed with the Nintendo 64 catelouge as it is my favorite video game system and I have almost officially given up hope that it'll actually mature like it's predecessors. Because of this, I will be saving up money for an Nintendo 64. However, other sections have been doing at least okay.
But the main thing we're talking about is quality control on the Wii. First off, we need to account for the Nintendo DS as well. Everyone is too focused on consoles and sometimes pretend to forget handhelds. It's like this. If you don't like the main course (Wii), try the side (DS). Prehaps you'll like the meal. You can also try the deserts as well (Older systems).
Something like that. On to my second point, the games on the Wii. To be brutally honest, I really cannot keep up with the amount of great games for the system. However, there are also tons of shovelware available as well and they actually sell, which is the problem. Why are shovelwares like the Game Party Series doing so well while great, original games like Excitebots: Trick Racing bomb so horribly? My answer to that is the almost total lack of adversiting. While a small part of it is Nintendo's fault, they shouldn't completely be blamed for it. When I mean "small part", I mean a failure to adversite some of there games. The rest is the responsibilty of third-party games, and they are failing that miserably. This should explain why some third-party companies are docking out on Nintendo (EA Sports, Ubisoft (Not confirmed), maybe Sega).
It's because of third-party laziness that is pulling the Wii down and ruining Nintendo's reputation with critics and gamers. That's the main reason.
However, this has happen before. The Atari 2600 obviously had this problem. While the Nintendo Entertainment System is hailed as the savior of the gaming industry, it had a flood of shovelware as bad if not worse then the Wii. The Playstation and Playstation 2 also had this problem. The only leading console that did not suffer from boatload of garbage is the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (The Sega Genesis arguably has more shovelware then the SNES).
However, this is possible to repeat again. Nintendo probably saw this coming so they might be trying to correct it next generation with the next Nintendo console. If the next console performs and SNES, we might see the best video game system since the SNES, providing if the console wins eight-gen. However, I also do predict an intense console war between Nintendo and Sony, just like fourth-gen with Nintendo and Sega. Only that there will be a lot more arguing, the Internet will be even more on the two consoles, better games, and possibly nastier campaign. Either way, I think both companies will put forth all efforts this generation.
But what about Microsoft? If the Playstation 3 successfully takes over the Xbox 360 in the 2nd place spot, we could see Microsoft dropping out of the console manufacturing business and focusing solely on PC gaming. EA Sports and/or Activision will take Microsoft spot.
But I'm getting off-topic here, so I'll end my post with this.
Do I think Nintendo needs to exercise more quality controls? I would say yes. However, I do have a feeling they're going to do it next-gen when they know they have the potential to perform an SNES-like quality or better.
Re: Tetris Party Deluxe Dropping Into Wii and DS
Insant buy for me.
Re: Dimps Revealed As Sonic 4 Developer
Being responsible for the Sonic Unleashed design for the Wii and that the Wii version is the best one, this game is in great hands.
We'll see what The Sane Revelation thinks of this (Previously darknessthecurse, but his new Youtube account).
Re: DS2 Rumour Is Rumour No More
@nintenden: Good, the DSi needs time to grow. We might as well start speculating what's going to happen.
Re: DS2 Rumour Is Rumour No More
This better not come out in 2011. Please delay until at least until Fall, 2011.
Re: Sonic & Knuckles
So it's about time the game comes.
Re: Nintendo Download 15th February 2010 (North America)
Whoo Hoo! My 4th most wanted game is finally on the Virtual Console! Thanks Sega, now I need to get an Wii Point Card and download this AND Sonic The Hedgehog 3 to create the ultimate beast of a game.
Re: GTI Club Supermini Festa! Under Starter's Orders
A racing game with online play? And it's not downgraded from the HD version? I'm in.
Re: Super Mario Bros. 3 Turns Twenty
I personally think this game is severely overrated, no offense. It's still a good game, but not what I call fantastic. Neverthless, happy 20th birthday to Super Mario Bros. 3!
Re: Nintendo Download: 12th February 2010 (Europe)
If Sonic & Knuckles doesn't come to North America this Monday, Europe will finally have a game to brag about to us.
Re: Big Nintendo News Incoming
I have an moderately high expectation for the Media Summit. I'm expecting more information on games we already know about (And finally some on Pikimin 3 and Golden Sun DS). We could also see a couple of new games announced there, according to the Media Summit of October, 2008.
@edhe: While I do think it's likely that we might see it on the VC, I don't think it's big enough to be reconfirmed to the public just yet. And beside, unconfirmed legal issues. However, I wouldn't rule this out yet since the Media Summit isn't as important as E3, but still, the chances of that happening is very slim.
@mastergraveheart: This isn't E3 2010, so I think you're expecting much beyond what Nintendo would ever offer outside of E3. The only games that have a slight possibility is an Earthbound on VC release, Kirby Wii annoucement, Startropic return, and a Star Fox Wii confirmation. Even then, these are really a strech.
Re: Nintendo Wins Another Piracy Court Case
@MrWout: Prehaps they can put him in jail instead?
Re: Nintendo Wins Another Piracy Court Case
(Clap hands at success) Great job Nintendo, kill those pirates.
Re: Miyamoto Hints Towards Next Console
I'm really tired of the Wii HD rumor. It's not going to happen, Satoru Iwata said that himself.
@Yosher: That's what I say.
Re: Nintendo Download: 8th February 2010 (North America)
Great update, although I was not expecting Princess Tomato In Salad Kingdom so soon. Then again, it's impossible to predict the Virtual Console.
Nothing to complain about, although I'm only really interested in Blaster Master: Overdrive.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Arcade Games on Virtual Console?
The Virtual Console has been extrememly underepresented in general, especially by Nintendo. I'm also interested in all of these games, so I say yes to all of them.
Re: Sonic & Knuckles Coming to EU Virtual Console on 12th February
Here's to hoping to an February release in North America.
Re: Nintendo Download: 5th February 2010 (Europe)
Small, but it's still an solid update.
Re: Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 Coming to Wii
This is indeed great news. Glad to see it coming to WiiWare. I'll defindently be supporting this game.
Re: Pokémon Lose the Slots From Their Heart and Soul
@LegendofPasta99 and Raylax: The less we talk about the casino's levels in the Sonic games, the better. If Europeans gets overreactive enough, they'll sue Nintendo and Sega butts off for Sonic 2 and 3 casino's references on the Virtual Console and be force to pull them off the Virtual Console.
Re: Nintendo Download: 1st February 2010 (North America)
While there isn't anything really special in my opinion, it's not bad at all. You people are obviously complaining way too much.
@SSB Fan 12: You just made a better comment then most people here today.
Re: Speak Up, Monster Hunters
Capcom was on a mission to bring the best out of the series and they have succeeded. Wii Speak = buy. This will be an beast (BEAST) of a game.
@SoulSliver IV: Where did Capcom confirm the online was free here? That I'd like to know.
Re: Cursed Mountain Developer Closed
Guys, Deep Sliver is the publisher. The company that should have gone under is Sproing, because they are the develper. Should you change the article title?
Re: Japanese Virtual Console list - February 2010
This could be an okay month for the Virtual Console. Meanwhile, we focus on catch-ups. But there are a lot of interesting titles.
@Rapadash9: We had similar months in Japan, so I doubt we are nearing the end.
Re: Nintendo Chief Doesn't Care for the iPad
I also don't care for the IPad, I don't care for cell phones anyway.
And for 3D gaming (WIth glasses), how about Nintendo make an console that does 4D? That would be revolutionary!
But we all know Nintendo is working on an HD console, they said it that there next console would be HD.
Re: Review: Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars (Wii)
I would absolutely love to get my hand on this. This looks awesome. Too bad I have to wait until my birthday.
Re: Castlevania: Rondo of Blood ESRB Rated
@bendover83: Sorry about that mistake, I fixed it already.
Re: Monster Hunter and Classic Controller Pro Bundle Coming To North America
Looks Like Capcom really wants this game to succeed. Question, does the Classic Controller Pro require another Wii Remote? If not, then I'm getting the bundle.
Re: Castlevania: Rondo of Blood ESRB Rated
I wouldn't be surprise if this would be our 350th game in case we don't get an first-party title instead.
Re: Phoenix Wright May Still Appear in Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom
Hope DLC comes. More characters would rock. Of course I'm still getting the game regardless.
Re: Nintendo Download: 25th January 2010 (North America)
This is actually an decent update again.
Re: Guides: How to Get Your Wii Online
About time someone steps up and make an article on how to connect online and on an popular site. The more people that knows, the better. Nintendo needs to encourage online more.
@Shiryu: My Wii has been on standon for months and I haven't notice much of a problem on it. Prehaps it's because I got a Wii on April 22, 2007. I keep that on because I want to be able to get informed when I get an message.
Re: Project Needlemouse Stories Come and Go
@Stuffgamer1: Actually, there was a port planned for the Wii and Windows Vista to go along it, but they were scrapped. So it is an HD console exclusive, but it originally wasn't.
Re: Nintendo Download: 22nd January 2010 (Europe)
Disappointing update, that's for sure.
I'm actually starting to feel guilty here.
Re: Dementium II teaser trailer
Not kidding, that really scared me.
Re: Nintendo Download: 15 January 2010 (Europe)
What an terrible update. Unless Nintendo is planning to do an WiiWare week and VC Week following, each with at least two games, I'm not really excited.
North Americans, don't be surprise if we don't get an Virtual Console game this upcoming Monday.
@cheapogamer4life: Actually it can get a lot worse. For all we know, they could cancel the Virtual Console.
Re: Reggie: No New Console Successor Anytime Soon
Good to hear. I would be satisfied with the Wii until late 2012 anyway.
Re: Bit Museum Showcases Nintendo's Pre-Famicom Days
Very, very interesting to hear. I have heard of most of those console and that they were an card company, but I've never looked up information in depth.
Re: Near Five Year Development Cycle for Zelda Wii?
Damn. They were on this game before The Legend of Zelda: Twlight Princess was released? That is long.
Re: Nintendo Download: 11 January 2010 (North America)
Normally, with a bad Virtual Console week like this, I would complain. However, after an great holiday season from November to December for the VC and the fact that we have an good WiiWare week today, I'll just pretend this week didn't exist. Complaining isn't really worth it this week.
@Rapadash6: Exactly what I would say.
Re: EA Makes NBA Jam Wii Officially Official
I absolutely loved NBA Hangtime. Hopefully, EA Sports can replicate it's magic.
Re: Sega: Nintendo Should Support Mature Gamers
Does Dynamac Action Slash rings a bell? Nintendo is supporting mature games from other companies, they just don't make them often. And remember, they helped you adversite in France. At least Capcom learned from there mistakes.
Re: Capcom Reaffirms Wii Commitment
Nice to see that Capcom is not abandoning Wii support. Capcom is an great company and they deserve to be watched at.
Re: Nintendo No Longer Publishing Metroid Prime Trilogy in US
Looks like I'm screwed. After all, I basically always miss an good oppertunity for games.
Re: Review: Shadow Dancer: The Secret of Shinobi (Virtual Console / Sega Mega Drive)
@Dazza: Well that's good to hear. But considering that the USK didn't rate this game, should someone in Germany check for it's availability in the Virtual Console? And why would violence be considered an licensing issues?
BTW, with the removal of licensed characters, I think Revenge of the Shinobi should have cost 700 Wii Points.