@TheAwesomeBowser my right shoulder button is broken, my left stick has a wonder, my right joycon, has trouble syncing up now and this is all after sending it in to get fixed. I could blame my nephews but they haven’t played it that much: it’s the quality of the make. As for its stellar games; Mario odyssey and breath of the Wild string you along with gameplay promoting instant gratification over delayed gratification which in my mind makes them dull baby games made for babies, or the parent of the baby who has limited time. As for the rest of its stellar games. They’re either known quantities(Mario kart 8, bayonetta, captain toad, etc) or barebones sequels(Splatoon 2, kirby, Mario tennis)
For the first half of this year, the only notable release is yoshi which only Appeals to the kirby sort of demographic. You have to wait till summer for games to come out.
@ThanosReXXX I have a fairly good recollection of how well the average RPG sells. They sell enough to keep the developers and publishers in business, that’s about it.
Rune factory 4, 0.7 million, Octopath 1.08 (I believe), Bravely default 1.14, bravely second, half that. Etrian odyssey 1.5 million (as of 2016) combined sales of series. Xenoblade 2, 1.5 million give or take, Odin sphere, and I am setsuna, couldn’t find sales figures so.....yeah. Fire Emblem awakening, 2-2.5 million, fates is in that ball park too. Shin Megami Tensei series in all its many iterations: around 8 million. Persona 5: 2.2 million. This is all a rough estimate mind you. Point is prospering and lingering are not the same. You can dispute the metrics of success if want but those are the numbers as I could find them.
If I wanted to be churlish, I might suggest that the fan base Venn diagram for these series is very tight. Also I’ll confirm your suspicion. I do in fact utterly hate JRPG style games; Earthbound, Fire Emblem and Xenoblade X notwithstanding. Do the same boring UI laden battle thing 10,000 times and every now and then the hoky story progresses maybe the scenery changes, or perhaps a number gets bigger. Haven’t played them all, don’t want to.
I didn’t hate this direct, unlike every 2018 presentation; thus I assumed every other vocal Nintendo fan would think its the most amazing thing ever.
The direct was a flood of Double A efforts, book ended by two actual Nintendo 1st party announcements.
Moreover unless you can tolerate Yoshi’s plodding movement and baby easy difficulty(I am awful at video games by the way). You have to wait till summer for the new offerings, though 2019 looks altogether good thus far.
If you’re one the 2-3 million(my meagre estimate) folks that like Eastern style games, the direct was amazing. if you’re everyone else that like Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games or like western style games. You get old or inferior yet portable versions of games, Mario maker, Yoshi and Zelda.
Moving beyond the direct, my main gripe with Nintendo is that though handheld and console development has consolidated under the switch, I’ve yet to see it have an impact on their productivity. There are so many teams and studios that are seemingly doing nothing. Their overall output should be far better.
You can have the last word if you desire friend, though I’d prefer if your tell me I’m outright wrong rather than remind that I exist in the confines of my own opinion.
P.S to your P.S
I’ve had no qualms with your conduct and was implying nothing.
@Mrtoad true, all games are done on a budget, even so, there are certain games “done on a budget.”
Consider the phrase “we’re on a budget”; the explicit notion is that you need to be careful with your money, but there also exists within the statement, an implicit that there is no money.
Apply example to my comment above and there should be no confusion.
@ThanosReXXX if a game is niche, then it’s budget is adjusted accordingly. RPG factory or whatever they’re called (Square Enix owned) makes niche games, hence cheaply made, one of if not platinums best selling developed games, Nier automata was also made on a budget. I’ll assume the rest of their games are probably as well.
But this is all semantics.
My point is my middling opinion of this direct isn’t just my opinion. Otherwise the international audience would buy JRPGs and other eastern games. A few examples aside (Final Fantasy, Dragon quest in japan, monster Hunter world) they don’t
@sakkenijs thank u, I feel I’m taking crazy pills, man is the original far more charming looking. The intro of this trailer vs the actual game is one of the most jarring moments since whenever
@Balta666 I think I’m being quite reasonable. Either your patronizing me in the manner of a mother or your acknowledging that genuine disagreement is good sport.
@sanderev if u didn’t play them originally, then perhaps they lack the power of resonance.
Link’s awakening is an amazing game and the pure essence of Zelda(didn’t touch it till I was 21 mind you) but man that art style looks like [removed], but also it looks cute and fascinating , I can almost guarantee that DX will remain the definitive.
I’ll watch the trailer again, and withhold my full judgement
@ThanosReXXX I won’t quibble about it being “solid”. All the same however, many of these titles shown are niche and eastern, that new platinum won’t break 2 million(Octopath didn’t), fire Emblem is likely the only Japanese style game that will achieve greater success internationally. As for all those ports, I’d hazard that 95% of the people talking on this here website have the means to play them(at a heavy discount) as for the rest of the switch audience: same vibe.
That new Zelda...I’ll watch the trailer again but oh boy, wow!!!
@sanderev super Mario maker 2 is cool, and not a port, fire Emblem looks interesting (comparatively). Arch chain(?) looks like they put effort into it. Tetris Royale also cool. I had every single emotional reaction to link’s awakening, glad, mad, sad....plad? Jury’s out on that one. Otherwise a lot of late arrivals and Japanese double AA games. I’m less disappointed than I imagined, but ehhh
@FragRed I’m actually in good spirits, despite having to wait till June for something worth playing. Double AA JRPGs, and late ports(readily available for cheaper prices to near all on this board) are the essence of mediocrity. Some people have standards that go above mediocrity.
Regardless of that an 8(ish) year development time on Metroid prime is silly, it should be a reinvention at that point, not a retread of 1(which is a wonderful game)
Although I take umbrage with you calling the switch a wii u port machine, that’s just patently false. Here’s proof:
Donkey Kong TF Super Deluxe Mario is U Captain Toad Mk 8 DX Pokken DX Hyrule Warriors
Let’s not forget the 3rd parties new games
Skyrim Wolfenstein 2 Doom Monster Hunter Generations ultimate Mega man legacy 1 and 2 Resident Evil revelations Okami Ray man legends Child of light L.A Noire LEGO city Undercover
All new games, and then there’s indies, the most creative of all.
Shovel knight Fast RMX Xeodrifter Mutant Mudds Velocity 2X World of Goo Runbow Stick it to the man Steam world dig Etc.
All new games, there was the occasional port such as Smash ultimate but that’s okay.
You owe all the developers who made these new games an apology
@Lemmy_the_Koopa maybe that’s true; one can hope. Even so, games are overdue at this point, so I don’t believe my tone should be ecstatic or grateful when these do arrive.
I don’t disagree with Nintendo’s decision to scrap what they had, I’m irked by the mishandling of development time.
@Wak_mbpt buying new consoles to play old games.....great. I have a job where I can, on average play 3 hours of switch a day at said job and yet somehow I don’t regard the switch’s portability as reason enough to retread old ground.
@Lemmy_the_Koopa going on 6 years since pikmin 3, 5 years since retro’s last offering, 6 years since the last 2D Mario, (going on 4 since super Mario maker), 3 years since next levels last offering(federation force), 6 years since animal crossing, 4 1/2 years since the last Mario kart with no new announcement. Going on 3 years since the last paper Mario(which was kinda rushed and middling). I’m probably forgetting others. Something is out of sync is my point.
@DayOfLavos it’s a really good thing that Nintendo wasted development resources and has nothing to show for it? Moreover one of their best studios is now preoccupied with the mess meaning they might be dormant for another 3-4 years on top of their already five year quiet period. It appears once again that Nintendo has issues regarding consistency in their release calendars
Wow I sure hope there’s a real direct, cus that was pretty so so. I think it’s time for another shovel knight caliber indie. It sounds like Celeste was that, and I suppose hollow wad pretty cool, but it’s time for some real bangers
@Abes3 I don’t really concern myself with scores all that much anymore. What bothers me about reviews is that your initial impression rarely holds up and therefore I believe reviewers should be suspicious of themselves and thus in my perfect world, the same reviewer should revisit their reviews a year or so after, and it should all be in writing.
As someone super lenient on the aforementioned breath of the Wild, my views have changed for the worse in the last couple years. It’s a great game but I regard it as more shallow enjoyment than its predecessors. Dido for Mario Odyssey compared to the others.
@Quarth that’s probably because Nintendo life reviews smaller games that other sites don’t review: games of more dubious quality. To my mind at least, they review hohum Nintendo releases with too much leniency. Smash ultimate for instance is not a 10/10. Review scores aside, I consider their reviews to be inoffensive but hardly riveting or deep cutting.
@Mrtoad I was speaking in nomenclature sunshine. Besides this also applies to independents some of whom will port a game five times before releasing a new one. Understandable but not inspiring.
@Incarta some of these games are new to some people hater, jk bro jk. These days I no longer respect or have sympathy for game developers. I’d hazard to say they’re lazy and need to be replaced.
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Re: Video: The State Of Nintendo Switch Two Years After Its Release
@Darknyht that’s my experience
Re: Video: The State Of Nintendo Switch Two Years After Its Release
@TheAwesomeBowser my right shoulder button is broken, my left stick has a wonder, my right joycon, has trouble syncing up now and this is all after sending it in to get fixed. I could blame my nephews but they haven’t played it that much: it’s the quality of the make.
As for its stellar games; Mario odyssey and breath of the Wild string you along with gameplay promoting instant gratification over delayed gratification which in my mind makes them dull baby games made for babies, or the parent of the baby who has limited time.
As for the rest of its stellar games. They’re either known quantities(Mario kart 8, bayonetta, captain toad, etc) or barebones sequels(Splatoon 2, kirby, Mario tennis)
For the first half of this year, the only notable release is yoshi which only Appeals to the kirby sort of demographic. You have to wait till summer for games to come out.
I’d swap my switch for a Wii u
Re: Video: The State Of Nintendo Switch Two Years After Its Release
I borderline hate my switch
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@Octane it’s like Christian school all over again
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@Octane is [removed] too colourful a word for a Nintendo site, anything else I’ve said is perfectly reasonable.
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@Octane what language? Or is it the contents therein?
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@ThanosReXXX I have a fairly good recollection of how well the average RPG sells. They sell enough to keep the developers and publishers in business, that’s about it.
Rune factory 4, 0.7 million, Octopath 1.08 (I believe), Bravely default 1.14, bravely second, half that. Etrian odyssey 1.5 million (as of 2016) combined sales of series. Xenoblade 2, 1.5 million give or take, Odin sphere, and I am setsuna, couldn’t find sales figures so.....yeah. Fire Emblem awakening, 2-2.5 million, fates is in that ball park too. Shin Megami Tensei series in all its many iterations: around 8 million. Persona 5: 2.2 million. This is all a rough estimate mind you. Point is prospering and lingering are not the same. You can dispute the metrics of success if want but those are the numbers as I could find them.
If I wanted to be churlish, I might suggest that the fan base Venn diagram for these series is very tight. Also I’ll confirm your suspicion. I do in fact utterly hate JRPG style games; Earthbound, Fire Emblem and Xenoblade X notwithstanding. Do the same boring UI laden battle thing 10,000 times and every now and then the hoky story progresses maybe the scenery changes, or perhaps a number gets bigger. Haven’t played them all, don’t want to.
I didn’t hate this direct, unlike every 2018 presentation; thus I assumed every other vocal Nintendo fan would think its the most amazing thing ever.
The direct was a flood of Double A efforts, book ended by two actual Nintendo 1st party announcements.
Moreover unless you can tolerate Yoshi’s plodding movement and baby easy difficulty(I am awful at video games by the way). You have to wait till summer for the new offerings, though 2019 looks altogether good thus far.
If you’re one the 2-3 million(my meagre estimate) folks that like Eastern style games, the direct was amazing. if you’re everyone else that like Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games or like western style games. You get old or inferior yet portable versions of games, Mario maker, Yoshi and Zelda.
Moving beyond the direct, my main gripe with Nintendo is that though handheld and console development has consolidated under the switch, I’ve yet to see it have an impact on their productivity. There are so many teams and studios that are seemingly doing nothing. Their overall output should be far better.
You can have the last word if you desire friend, though I’d prefer if your tell me I’m outright wrong rather than remind that I exist in the confines of my own opinion.
P.S to your P.S
I’ve had no qualms with your conduct and was implying nothing.
God bless
Re: Game Boy Classic Zelda: Link's Awakening Is Getting Remastered For Switch
@NickOfTime90 I feel so many things about it good and bad
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@Mrtoad true, all games are done on a budget, even so, there are certain games “done on a budget.”
Consider the phrase “we’re on a budget”; the explicit notion is that you need to be careful with your money, but there also exists within the statement, an implicit that there is no money.
Apply example to my comment above and there should be no confusion.
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@MoistEmphasis3 no I mean it, if u work hard at it, u can be a professor or a dean of middle school philosophy, or a video game writer.
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@MoistEmphasis3 deep, u should be a philosopher
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@ThanosReXXX if a game is niche, then it’s budget is adjusted accordingly. RPG factory or whatever they’re called (Square Enix owned) makes niche games, hence cheaply made, one of if not platinums best selling developed games, Nier automata was also made on a budget. I’ll assume the rest of their games are probably as well.
But this is all semantics.
My point is my middling opinion of this direct isn’t just my opinion. Otherwise the international audience would buy JRPGs and other eastern games. A few examples aside (Final Fantasy, Dragon quest in japan, monster Hunter world) they don’t
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@ThanosReXXX by “niche” I’m referring to the limited budget, rather than determining a games value by its popularity.
I think link’s awakening(top 3 game ever) might also look “cheap”
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@WhiteTrashGuy I’ll probably buy the game but oh boy it’s a baby game
Re: Game Boy Classic Zelda: Link's Awakening Is Getting Remastered For Switch
@WaveBoy finally a “hater” like me.
Re: Game Boy Classic Zelda: Link's Awakening Is Getting Remastered For Switch
@sakkenijs thank u, I feel I’m taking crazy pills, man is the original far more charming looking. The intro of this trailer vs the actual game is one of the most jarring moments since whenever
Re: Game Boy Classic Zelda: Link's Awakening Is Getting Remastered For Switch
@NickOfTime90 is it?
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@Balta666 I think I’m being quite reasonable. Either your patronizing me in the manner of a mother or your acknowledging that genuine disagreement is good sport.
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@sanderev if u didn’t play them originally, then perhaps they lack the power of resonance.
Link’s awakening is an amazing game and the pure essence of Zelda(didn’t touch it till I was 21 mind you) but man that art style looks like [removed], but also it looks cute and fascinating , I can almost guarantee that DX will remain the definitive.
I’ll watch the trailer again, and withhold my full judgement
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@ThanosReXXX I won’t quibble about it being “solid”. All the same however, many of these titles shown are niche and eastern, that new platinum won’t break 2 million(Octopath didn’t), fire Emblem is likely the only Japanese style game that will achieve greater success internationally. As for all those ports, I’d hazard that 95% of the people talking on this here website have the means to play them(at a heavy discount) as for the rest of the switch audience: same vibe.
That new Zelda...I’ll watch the trailer again but oh boy, wow!!!
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@SBandy ohhh Sweety, there there
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@sanderev super Mario maker 2 is cool, and not a port, fire Emblem looks interesting (comparatively). Arch chain(?) looks like they put effort into it. Tetris Royale also cool. I had every single emotional reaction to link’s awakening, glad, mad, sad....plad? Jury’s out on that one. Otherwise a lot of late arrivals and Japanese double AA games. I’m less disappointed than I imagined, but ehhh
Re: Super Mario Maker 2 Confirmed For Switch, Launches This June
Only worthwhile announcement (aside from this and that). At least the port begging didn’t spoil this subseries
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
@FragRed I’m actually in good spirits, despite having to wait till June for something worth playing. Double AA JRPGs, and late ports(readily available for cheaper prices to near all on this board) are the essence of mediocrity. Some people have standards that go above mediocrity.
Re: The Award-Winning Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice Is Switch-Bound This Spring
Not sure if that direct was terrible or not but it sure wasn’t great
Re: More Than 1,800 Games Have Now Been Released On The Nintendo Switch
@BanjoPickles it only has like 4 good games, and no great ones yet either.
Re: Video: Why You Should Be Pleased The Development Of Metroid Prime 4 Has Been Restarted
@AlienX both games have a similar strain of incompetence, but I Iike Skyward Sword....other M is a beautiful display of the inept.
Re: Video: Why You Should Be Pleased The Development Of Metroid Prime 4 Has Been Restarted
@Fiyaball as someone who put five hours into other M a year ago......no
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@WOLF13 Metroid’s sales number are oft neglected, especially on ign
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@Barbara001 I liked federation force...🤪.
Regardless of that an 8(ish) year development time on Metroid prime is silly, it should be a reinvention at that point, not a retread of 1(which is a wonderful game)
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@ALinkttPresent yes, but I meant it concerning ultimate (sorta)
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@WOLF13 no ur wrong the switch line up is historical and you’re just a hater, boo
Jk, 2018 was garbage and 2019 is so so thus far
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@westman98 ur my favourite person now
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@purpleibby Wii u Vc mmmm.........
Although I take umbrage with you calling the switch a wii u port machine, that’s just patently false. Here’s proof:
Donkey Kong TF
Super Deluxe Mario is U
Captain Toad
Mk 8 DX
Pokken DX
Hyrule Warriors
Let’s not forget the 3rd parties new games
Skyrim
Wolfenstein 2
Doom
Monster Hunter Generations ultimate
Mega man legacy 1 and 2
Resident Evil revelations
Okami
Ray man legends
Child of light
L.A Noire
LEGO city Undercover
All new games, and then there’s indies, the most creative of all.
Shovel knight
Fast RMX
Xeodrifter
Mutant Mudds
Velocity 2X
World of Goo
Runbow
Stick it to the man
Steam world dig
Etc.
All new games, there was the occasional port such as Smash ultimate but that’s okay.
You owe all the developers who made these new games an apology
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@Barbara001 be happy in 3-4 years
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@Lemmy_the_Koopa Nintendo direct for Monday
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@purpleibby Goes to show you why people shouldn’t get excited for logos. The switch hype was dead in 2018, for myself anyway
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@purpleibby after my own heart
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@Lemmy_the_Koopa maybe that’s true; one can hope. Even so, games are overdue at this point, so I don’t believe my tone should be ecstatic or grateful when these do arrive.
I don’t disagree with Nintendo’s decision to scrap what they had, I’m irked by the mishandling of development time.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@Wak_mbpt buying new consoles to play old games.....great. I have a job where I can, on average play 3 hours of switch a day at said job and yet somehow I don’t regard the switch’s portability as reason enough to retread old ground.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@Lemmy_the_Koopa going on 6 years since pikmin 3, 5 years since retro’s last offering, 6 years since the last 2D Mario, (going on 4 since super Mario maker), 3 years since next levels last offering(federation force), 6 years since animal crossing, 4 1/2 years since the last Mario kart with no new announcement. Going on 3 years since the last paper Mario(which was kinda rushed and middling). I’m probably forgetting others. Something is out of sync is my point.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@Steevil old games being rereleased in place of new ones is hardly consolation.
But hey I shouldn’t expect anything different from the switch.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
@DayOfLavos it’s a really good thing that Nintendo wasted development resources and has nothing to show for it? Moreover one of their best studios is now preoccupied with the mess meaning they might be dormant for another 3-4 years on top of their already five year quiet period. It appears once again that Nintendo has issues regarding consistency in their release calendars
Re: Video: Watch The Nintendo Indie Highlights Presentation January 2019
Wow I sure hope there’s a real direct, cus that was pretty so so. I think it’s time for another shovel knight caliber indie. It sounds like Celeste was that, and I suppose hollow wad pretty cool, but it’s time for some real bangers
Re: Review: Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes - A Stylish Return For The Otaku Hitman
@Abes3 I don’t really concern myself with scores all that much anymore. What bothers me about reviews is that your initial impression rarely holds up and therefore I believe reviewers should be suspicious of themselves and thus in my perfect world, the same reviewer should revisit their reviews a year or so after, and it should all be in writing.
As someone super lenient on the aforementioned breath of the Wild, my views have changed for the worse in the last couple years. It’s a great game but I regard it as more shallow enjoyment than its predecessors. Dido for Mario Odyssey compared to the others.
Re: Review: Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes - A Stylish Return For The Otaku Hitman
@Quarth that’s probably because Nintendo life reviews smaller games that other sites don’t review: games of more dubious quality. To my mind at least, they review hohum Nintendo releases with too much leniency. Smash ultimate for instance is not a 10/10. Review scores aside, I consider their reviews to be inoffensive but hardly riveting or deep cutting.
Re: Review: Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes - A Stylish Return For The Otaku Hitman
@Scottwood101 I rarely consider reviews on this site to be informative, critical or even good to read.
Re: Talking Point: What Does The Bungie Divorce From Activision Blizzard Mean For Nintendo?
not everything has something to with Nintendo
Re: Feature: 30 Third-Party Nintendo Switch Ports We'd Love To See In 2019
@Mrtoad I was speaking in nomenclature sunshine. Besides this also applies to independents some of whom will port a game five times before releasing a new one. Understandable but not inspiring.
Re: Feature: 30 Third-Party Nintendo Switch Ports We'd Love To See In 2019
@Incarta some of these games are new to some people hater, jk bro jk. These days I no longer respect or have sympathy for game developers. I’d hazard to say they’re lazy and need to be replaced.