Donkey Kong Bananza Features Two-Player Co-Op, And You Can Even GameShare To Switch 1

It works online too with GameChat GameShare.

Well nintendo leaked pauline themselves :/

I went from lukewarm enthusiasm to being completely sold on Bananza. It’s much deeper than I expected. It’s Odyssey with a dash of an old school collect-a-thon and even a nod to BOTW with similar challenge hunting like the shrines.

"Sling a remote"? Are we back in the ol' Wii-era? 😅

Not surprised there's going to be 2 player co-op. I'll be checking out this game for sure.

Loved the Pauline reveal! Makes perfect sense. She was in the original DK and Odyssey after all. People were expecting Kremlings but i won't mind if they're not there. I suddenly feel like playing Mario kart world as Pauline now.

Definitely getting this game!

I save money and get the digital version as I know I'm never going to want to sell it. Speaking of which 10/10 sold i want this day one

This will be perfect to play with my daughter! She’s been getting into Zelda with the Wind Waker too

This one looks like a winner. It really felt like Nintendo was holding back some information and I'm almost 100% certain the Odyssey team made this.

Looks more involved and less shoehorned in than Odyssey's multiplayer.

And it's reasons like this why I didn't give up my Switch 1. GameShare is easily the best feature of the console Nintendo is not talking about

@IronMan30 it's not even up for debate anymore, this was ONE HUNDREDETH OF A PERCENT a Nintendo EPD 8 production.

@N00BiSH 0.0001% ?

Gameshare... man... Nintendo, you REALLY need to highlight this feature more. It's a literally game changer for your current Switch 1 install base on advertising and selling Switch 2's.

Taking the "playing a friends game on multiplayer round a mates house" to "do this anywhere over Switch 2 and Switch 1 is the smartest feature no one knows much about right now.

...also needs adding to Mario Kart World... anytime now Big N... XD

@ParsnipHero They just threw that one in. absolutely crazy.

@N00BiSH yeah, I agree. It basically looked like DK Odyssey. Which is a major compliment, fwiw.

Nice I can be Pauline and wife can be DK

The game looks absolutely superb. It's like the Odyssey team were tasked with making their biggest, most ambitious game yet.

With the Odyssey team working on this, I wonder if that means the next 3D Mario is being developed by a different team? A new direction for 3D Mario perhaps?

@OorWullie I hope so. Odyssey looked and played wonderfully, but I found it a bit lacking compared to some of the other 3D outings. Maybe if Odyssey had been a different character, like DK, I'd have enjoyed it more.

The Mario 3D series does need to move in a new direction overall though, I think.

Why does DK look orange

@OorWullie if the rumors are true, then they're probably splitting the EPD team into two groups: one for the plumber and another for the ape.

I like the support for switch 1 gameshare and hope it becomes standard for nintendo's switch 2 co-op games going forward. my switch lite can become a companion screen for the switch 2

At this point? My wife and I could not be more pumped for this release.

Really wish they would stop calling these cheesy add-ons co-op. Co-op means equal to me. Can you imagine if the multi-player in MKW was 1 person races and the other person stands there at the start of the race and waves the flag. That's what this is, flag waving.

Take the Co-op off the button and call it "Player 2 Assist". Or just "Player 2". Cooperative shouldn't mean 1 player does 95% of the work and the other does 5%. It doesn't have to be 50-50, player 2 almost always has to sit out the first level or so,,like in Luigis Mansion 3, or just help fight, so 60-40 even 70-30 is fine. But this isn't playing anything, it's just assisting. May be fine for a little kid, but it's not co-op.

I guess it's better than nothing, but I'm sure I'm not the only person watching that video seeing Co-op only to be disappointed.😩

@OorWullie Super Mario Galaxy 3 ?! lol

@rjejr You are not alone... but...
To me, this and Odyssey's co-op feel like a case of "Creating a great full co-op game that also works well as single-player is tough, so let's just involve the second player in the game somewhat, rather than having them simply watch someone else play."

@rjejr they are Co-op. But they aren’t aimed at you. They are nice little add-ons that let younger players get into games with their older siblings/parents without getting frustrated with the game/frustrating the other person. Also, couples where one likes the look of the game, but maybe struggles playing. I like them as a way of helping these kind of people get into games, and they do no harm to me being there.

Considering how heavy this game is looking this is very impressive. I hope there's enough latency for it to work.

@Axecon Will it even run on switch 1 though?

@NolandC Thru game share, yes

@Wraggadam1 @Clark2k I like that they have these little "Let's give the kids something to do in the game." additions, but it isn't co-op to me. 🤷‍♂️ Co-op is when my kids or my wife and I can pick up and play a game cooperatively and it doesn't really matter which player we are b/c we are both playing the game. If everything DK did in the game was controlled by the CPU (or AI I guess these days) and player 1 only played Pauline would you feel like you were playing the game or just watching and occasionally hitting a button?

If a game is advertised as 2 player co-op both should be playing somewhat equally. Otherwise it's just a bunch of people sitting around watching. It's false marketing. I know Nintendo has been doing this since at least SMG, so like 15yrs, so you'd think they could come up w/ a better name by now. They are calling "easy mode" assist. They could have called easy mode easy mode and co-op assist.😁

@StewdaMegaManNerd may be they changed the fur color. did you watch the direct they showed that you can change the fur color for Dk. or maybe it just the lightning for this picture.

Gamesharing to the switch one, that’s pretty neat

@Axecon Yeah that's not at all what I was talking about... Here I'll make it simpler. Do you think the Switch 1 has the hardware capability to play this game?

@NolandC Extremely little chance Switch 1 could run DK Bonanza natively. The Switch 1 is exhausting its ability to run games due to the limited and ancient processing power that it's been chugging along with. Take Zelda TOTK for example which is probably the most demanding game the Switch 1 runs somewhat successfully. TOTK had long load times, would significantly dropping frames, and even overheating and it was barely 30 FPS when running somewhat smoothly. Compared to Zelda TOTK, there's so much more visually & particle-wise going on with DK Bonanza and the terrain terraforming that it would tank the Switch 1's ability to potentially run it. Not saying it's impossible but the game would look like a potato slide show on the previous console.

As for how game share works, it's a video feed projected onto the Switch 1 tablet while still accepting button inputs, aka streaming the game. I wonder how the feedback on the input lag would be?

@Axecon ahhh its steaming... got it that makes sense now... Thank you.

To those complaining that this isn't true co-op, you have a point. However, this mode seems to address three issues. Many DK fans became fans in the 80's or 90's and have young kids who might benefit from a small side role. Also, the singing component will attract some to the joy of the game who aren't that keen on Hulk-smashing action. Finally, many (especially girls) will appreciate that the game allows one to play as Pauline, at least in some capacity.

I'm curious how the sharing-to-switch-1 thing works just on a technical level. I assume the Switch 1 is essentially just working like a Wii U GamePad in that usage where it's basically just a controller that is having video beamed to it from the Switch 2? Makes sense that it only works locally since it's probably using Miracast or something similar.

Is the video just mirrored from the "primary" system, or does the second player get their own camera controls, etc?