Nvidia: Switch 2 Has "10x The Graphics Performance Of The Nintendo Switch"

So as a person that is quite impressed with the switch (yes I have a PC, Series X and PS5) as is… well this just butters my biscuit.

I say, is it an actual 10x improvement or a Bethesda 10x improvement?

Makes sense, a ~10× jump is what one would expect when you see the two 3D Zeldas go from running at 810-900p 20-30FPS on Switch 1 to 4K 60FPS with their Switch 2 Editions

I'll be interested to see how those more advanced techniques are used. Even though the Switch 2 is hitting way higher numbers than I was expecting, I'm still not sure how much we'll be seeing ray tracing in multiplatform games. Digital Foundry also seemed to think several of the games from the Direct might not be using DLSS, so I'm curious if there are difficulties with implementing it or some other reason why those devs are going with native resolutions over upscaling.

Switch 2 is actually a beast of a hybrid, great in handheld and looking to be possibly better than Series S docked. People have long complained about Nintendo always skimping out on power - here, we have something that might make ports to the console from other consoles and PC possible - without looking hilariously stripped down and primitive. As a consequence, the Switch 2 is a little more expensive, though, than some hoped.

I'm playing Burnout, New Vegas, Brutal Doom (with gyro), FFT, and Shaolin Monks on an AMOLED handheld that cost me $250. I love portables, but this thing is too expensive and so are the games.

For once Nintendo finally focus on power and performance again. I hope to see great games coming for Switch 2 in the near future.

@LikelySatan Then it's not for you.

@Alpha008 lol

@Serpenterror incredible deduction, Scorpion. In my head canon you are the MK Armageddon Scorpion, fyi. So...there...

I hope to see some performance improvements when old games are running on it as well. Animal Crossing: New Horizons with improved loading times would be great. (There may even be some room for graphical boosts from the sounds of it.)

Dang. That's highly impressive. I just want the games, and I'll be happy with that. Power isn't the most important, but I'm glad it is more powerful just so we can get more games.

@LikelySatan This is the price to pay for better graphics.

Hopefully this means there will be good third party interest for at least a few years. I’m glad it turned out to be a pretty significant upgrade since I assume this console will be around for 8 years or so…

Loading times is probably my biggest thing. Nintendo proves over and over that gameplay is so much more important than specs. But recently I’ve been disappointed with a few load times on Switch. The battle screen for Brothership most recently. If they could have reduced that by just 1 second it would have made that game feel so much more “Nintendo quality”

I think we saw the FromSoftware exclusive because more companies are realizing that specs have just become too expensive to max out. The cost and time to develop games that max out PC/PS5 specs these days are insane. And most people can hardly tell the difference once you get past a certain point. The entire industry needs to examine how Nintendo has always dominated and been the best: by prioritizing GAMEPLAY over specs

CDPR has also confirmed to GVG that Cyberpunk 2077 will have a performance mode that allows the game to at least hit 40fps, though they didn't say if that's with DLSS support nor did they say what the resolution would be.

@LikelySatan I could swallow the price of the console, but not games. What I can't swallow is the 2h battery mark. I'll stick with the first Switch and I'm already looking for x86 handheld.

Did they actually give any numbers to back up the 10x better graphics claim or is it more like it "looks" 10x better b/c of the DLSS and ray tracing?

Tomorrow's weather looks 10x better than today's b/c it rained today but tomorrow it's supposed to be sunny, and sunny is 10x better than rain, everyone knows that. ☀️>🌧️

I noticed in the chat overview video, the backgrounds were cropped out for the people video chatting together without there being a green screen behind them. I wasn't sure if that was a bit of false advertising, bit it's nice to have official confirmation that it can do that automatically. Sounds like that and the face-tracking are handled by the console itself and not the camera, which is kind of nuts.

How much of that 10x more graphics is graph and how much is ics? Coz if it’s 5x more graph and 5x more ics then that’s actually 5x5=25x more graph-ics in total but if it’s all just ics and no graph then what’s even the point?

These are the questions Digital Flandery should be anskwering.

You get 4K, DLSS, RT, G-Sync handheld, 8 inch, 1080p, 120fps, VRR, HDR, UFS storage, MicroSD Express, 10x more powerful than Switch (as per Nvidia said) etc at $450 👍

@michellelynn0976 I'm not exactly blown away so far, but mostly my problem is the price of the games. The Pro Controller also, ain't no Dual Sense (thankfully), so it really should be $60 or so.

@Anachronism It's a 1st batch games of Switch 2. Also report that many developers didn't receive DevKit yet, so no DLSS implementation yet. To be fair also, DF based their analysis on compression YouTube video thing

@KociolekDoSyta I've been using winlator on my Retroid 5, but only for a few days. I'm very happy with it, but I really love to tinker w stuff like this. I'm sure I'll grab a Steam Deck at some point.

@rjejr
A legitimate question but ultimately I must ask, what difference does it make? Whether they say 5x or 50x it won't change the actual results on screen and the gameplay experience.

Zelda BotW and TotK were 900p at 25-30fps. They now run 1440p 60fps. Metroid Prime 4 is 1080p 60fps. It now runs 4k 60fps or 1080p 120fps. Yakuza 0 was 1080p 55-60fps on PS4. It runs 4k 60fps on Switch 2. Reports coming in that Street Fighter 6, Split Fiction, Cyberpunk, etc all seem very comparable to what's on PS/Xbox.

In the final analysis, that should bring more clarity than any "10x power" statement.

@Galaxy2IsTheGOAT Amen brother... Higher poly count and fabric simulation and a lot of the new things are just wasting CPU/GPU cycles... Neat yes, but neat does not equate to fun.

@Jemae I'm not saying any of the games look bad; quite the opposite, I'm shocked they can all look as good as they do on a portable system if they're not using DLSS. As for dev kits, Nintendo's apparently pretty strict about Direct gameplay clips having to be from their actual hardware, so I think at least all the studios in there have had access to them for a while. But yeah, the point about youtube compression is fair. Hopefully there are some higher quality versions of the trailers out there for people to pick apart.

I consider myself fairly tech savvy but to tell you the truth a lot of what we've been told so far is just jargon that doesn't mean an awful lot.

Obviously it's early days yet but once reviewers have had they're hands on it properly I'd like them to tell us in language that's more understandable.

For example, if they tell us it's equivalent to a PS4 Pro but not as Powerful as a PS5, or maybe equivalent to an Xbox series S but not as Powerful as a Series X......... that type of comparison would make a lot more sense to me....... and I'm sure a lot of other people would feel the same

I want this to be true but based on what I've seen so far, I'm not seeing it.

@LikelySatan I love it as well, I have a modded Switch and a modded PS Vita (btw all my games are legal, physicals). I'm looking at Deck but the battery life is also below my expectations, so I'll wait for the new ROG Ally and I'll just install Linux on it. Maybe SteamOS will be available somewhere at launch, that would be awesome. Oh, I've been using ExaGear for years, Winlator just recently on my phone and I love it.

Do we know if any of the games we've seen so far are using ray tracing?

@KociolekDoSyta
If you're expecting better battery life out of one of the x86 portables you're in for a rude shock. Those things are significantly more power hungry, especially if you're pushing them harder. Which is why they are rated for similar battery life despite having batteries that are over double capacity the Switch 2. In other words, they can only match the Switch 2 by being significantly bulkier with significantly larger batteries

Honestly, throw a battery pack in your back and you'll be fine. Especially with how low the relative power consumption is, especially compared to all the PC portables. People doomed about the OG Switch battery life which was more-or-less the same as this. We managed. The walls didn't collapse. Mountain out of a molehill I think

Not one game will use raytracing. That is already too much for this console with 2020 tech.

@skywake I'm familiar with the x86 architecture compared to ARM. Look at Ally X and its battery life. It's heavier, more bulky, but I guess that I don't have any other choice now for new games. I don't want to always carry a powerbank with me, this should not be the case with a portable gaming console. Allright, maybe, but I don't see myself pluggin in a console after 2h of gaming.

People were not satisfied, that's why they made OLED version. Same as with Deck OLED and Ally X. It's achievable and I'm sure that Nintendo will do it at some point as well, but I'm tired of playing their games and buying a refresh after a couple of years. They could have pulled it out right now, but they didn't and with this they lost me. People will complain about it sooner or later, just like with the first revision of Switch.

Finally, power level 9000!

It's like 10 switches duct taped together!

Pixels!

Logical

But...how about battery?!?!!

Don't get me wrong, Cyberpunk shows that the hardware is strong. I like Switch 2, but I value battery life way too much.

@KociolekDoSyta
Excuse Australian prices but the Switch 2 is $699AU, the Steam Deck OLED is $899AU and the ROG Ally X is $1599AU. And the battery life on all of them is more-or-less the same (admittedly the Ally X gets a bit under twice the battery life but for $900AU more it'd want to!)

So what are you talking about?

Performance mode is my friend.

@skywake How is 2h compared to 4h the same?

Price will even out very quickly after you'll buy few games for Switch 2 vs Steam. You'll save even more money further down the road.

P.S. Don't forget about microsd express 1TB costs $200. That's a reasonable size nowadays, games are much larger.

@KazooieTooie missed the part where it has hardware raytracing?
it's not going to eat much performance, because they added dedicated GPU cores that handle it.

@westman98 Zelda Switch 2 edition is more like 1440p/60FPS

Sorry but after the whole RTX50 fiasco, I don't believe a single thing coming out of the mouth of NVidia.
Especially with their CEO boasting on stage that the RTX5070 boasts RTX4090 performance claim, which is of course an outrageous lie.

It's sad to see NVidia falling so far and abusing their dominance position in the GFX market.

So when it comes to Switch 2 performance, I will wait and see when sites like Gamer Nexus and DF get their hands on the Switch 2.
Either way, the Tegra X1 SoC in the Switch is about 10 years old by now, so you expect a very significant performance increase if the SoC in the Switch 2 is brandnew tech co-developed by NVidia and Nintendo.

@KociolekDoSyta
Ok, so I buy an ROG Ally X for $900AU more than Switch 2. Then I save on games because .... oh wait, no I don't because a game like Cyberpunk Ultimate Edition actually costs more on Steam than it does on Switch 2. Oh well. Ignore that then

Oh, but the battery life is half as much! I need a 20Wh battery for Switch 2 to get the same kind of battery life. I'd need a huge.... oh, you can get a 75Wh battery for around $50AU. A battery that's the size of a deck of cards. And that effectively charges the thing 3x at least, extending the effective battery life to 8-24hrs. Never mind then

That leaves me $850AU to spend on closing that storage gap between 256GB and 1TB.....

I think your maths doesn't maths

They don't mention "Transformer" will it have this?

I was wrong. I have no problem to admit about it.

But it is still a too big leap for Nintendo seriously. 10x is insane, so Switch 2 is aroround 3-4 Tflops then since Switch is at 394 Gflops or something alike.

This means that we'll se a very considerable decrease of the amount of first-party games on Switch 2 compared with Switch. I still think that 3x-5x more power had been enough for Nintendo.
We'll just wait and see how this turns.

$449 for a 10x increase of power is not that bad anymore. But it's those taxes on some certain countries like mine who ruins the party. I don't want to pay like up to $200 extra in TAXES to my country, for just the console!
Digital games are so much more expensive than physical games
in my country now for years, so I don't even dare to think how it turns
with digital Switch 2 games...

last i heard, the switch 2 was on par with the base ps4 power wise. maybe slightly better but the ps4 pro might be pushing it. i don't even know why they are marketing 4k for the switch 2 but here we are. best you are going to get is a very poor 4k upscale or native 4k for the most archaic looking indie games. let's put it this way... if the base ps4 had trouble running a game (cyberpunk, etc etc) then so will the switch 2. probably.

@Keman But this is the so called inflation correction that has been happening for last 2+ years.

Both on XBox and Playstation 5 store, new AAA games cost 90 bucks minimum now in my country, while I can often pickup the physical copy in my local store for around 65 bucks still with my 10% member discount.

I don't know what happened, but it used to be the other way around, where digital games were cheaper, since it doesn't carry the cost of physical medium and packing+distribution.

But with the PS5 having a digital only variant of the console, Sony has already been sued for this, abusing their market position and trying to force people with digital only consoles to pay a lot more for games than people who can buy physically.

It's sad to see Nintendo following suit with pricing their upcoming Switch 2 games also towards 90 bucks.
That is a 50% increase from Switch 1 games.

@skywake This discussion with you is pointless, so I'll stop it now. Thanks.

Performance really caught me off guard. I wasn't expecting it to be as powerful, especially with these early ports (devs didn't have long to work on dev kits).
I know this gets thrown around a lot, but at this point in time Switch 2 performance does seem capable enough to provide any GAMING experience you might want as a developer, and further technical advances on other consoles are just eye candy bells and whistles. That is a crucial point for future ports and 3rd party buy-in (and might be detrimental to pointless visuals race on other consoles).

@KazooieTooie 2020 tech? What are you talking about? Nvidia literally designed the chip with Nintendo from the ground up, this is as modern as the tech gets.

You good?

@Porco
There's footage of it running Cyberpunk fairly comfortably. Digital Foundry has already done some commentary and analysis on it. It runs fine. Certainly better than the PS4/XBOne versions. 1080p with dynamic resolution scaling down to 720p and a 30fps cap and dips down to around 23fps but with higher settings than PS4. Remembering that PS4 frequently struggled to maintain 30fps and often dipped into the teens.......

But of the games they went through? Cyberpunk was one of the lowest resolution games of the lot. Most of these games were running at 1440p, some were 60fps at 1440p, a couple were full native 4K. It's actually pretty impressive performance wise, it certainly outclasses PS4. I would argue for a lot of people it's probably more than enough to be their main console

@KociolekDoSyta
I mean, you were the one you said that the Switch 2 was bad because of battery life and pointed to x86 portables as an alternative. All I've done is point out that generally they don't have better battery life than Switch 2, they're all far more power hungry. And the one you're specifically mentioned which happens to have a better battery life is over double the price of Switch 2

So yes, it is a pointless discussion. Your comparison is pointless. They're entirely different kinds of products and your comparison falls apart with any sort of scrutiny

FWIW I have a Steam Deck OLED and I love the thing. PC portables are amazing. But the suggestion that they are somehow better than Switch 2 because of battery life or value for money really is a joke. It's a cosmically stupid argument

@Keman
Imagine being upset that a company releases a product that's more capable than you were expecting it to be. Very strange

@skywake Whatever keeps you going mate. Don't reply to my messages anymore please, thanks.

@Varkster We don't know yet, since there is literally zero information available about the new SoC.

You also have to understand it takes years to develop and manufacture a new SoC.
We also don't know if it really is a brand new SoC and not just deceptive marketing. It can just end up being a modified existing NVidia SoC.

Everything is speculation at this point until someone leaks the actual SoC specs.

So why isn't botw and totk making use of these features like dlss?

@Jeronan @rjejr @Alpha008 Leaked specs from shipping data said Switch 2 GPU is 3 teraflops, which is 10x higher than the 300 gigaflops of Switch 1. The numbers Nvidia are claiming track.

I must say it’s all sounding quite impressive, and surprising for Nintendo. I’m well pleased, although the proof will be in the pudding (games).

The last time Nintendo had cutting edge technology in their consoles were the GameCube and N64, which weren’t exactly massive hits sales wise. Will be interesting to see how the Switch 2 fares.

@Porco

And Yet CDPR is porting Cyberpunk 2077 in quality that was never reached on PS4 and PS4 Pro with the expansion that was never released on previous Gen. Crazy isn't it?

@LikelySatan See, there is no pleasing you all. If you can say DK wasn't incredible looking, you're not being honest. And, the Switch 2 does use cutting edge tech like DLSS, VRR, HDR, that's why you get a 1080p LCD screen that can look as good as an OLED, and it can run games in handheld up to 120 FPS. Sometimes, if you want something good, you gotta pay for it.

@Galaxy2IsTheGOAT It will get cheaper and easier with AI to max out specs for graphics. But the differentiating factor in future games will be in-game AI not the quality of the graphics as much.

@Orpheus79V That is just another rumor. Even Tomshardware hasn't got any real data yet on the new Switch 2 SoC.

We just have to wait until we get the official SoC datasheet specs leaked.
I mean, 3 TFLOPS could be about right, but is nothing to write home about. Especially for Native 4K gaming.
It wasn't until the PS5 ( 10 TFLOPS ) and XBox Series X ( 12 TFLOPS ) that offer true native 4K gaming at acceptable performance levels.

So, while 3 TFLOPS is quite better than the Switch 1, it is in fact not 10x faster.
Yes in handheld mode, its 10x faster if the Switch 2 can do 3 TFLOPS in handheld mode, but docked the Switch 1 clocked close to 600/700 GFLOPS.
All the while the fully clocked Tegra X1 on the NVidia shield back in the day topped out at 1 TFLOPS!

So honestly, if the new Switch 2 SoC tops out at 3 TFLOPS docked that is actually a huge letdown, as that is barely 3x faster than the 10 year old Tegra X1 SoC.

So, before we jump to any conclusions, lets hope this so called reported 3 TFLOPS is performance in handheld mode and that in docked mode we get closer to 5-6 TFLOPS at least.
As otherwise Native 4K is going to be an outright lie and not possible for the vast majority of games, save for some simple cartoony looking games.
It will then be more likely closer to 1440p native games that get then supersampled/upscaled to 4K via DLSS.

Of course it will still look much better on a large 4K TV, as most Switch 1 games topped out at 900p docked (or worse with variable resolution). It still not Native 4K that only the PS5 and XBox Series X is really capable of.

So I am taking these Native 4K 60fps claims with a huge clip of salt and wouldn't suprise me that there are NVidia DLSS and frame generation shenanigans at play here, to achieve it.

PS. Just for reference, the AMD Zen 1 Extreme SoC (in Rog Ally X for example) tops out at 8.3 TFLOPS.
So if the new NVidia SoC in Switch 2 gets even remotely close to the AMD Zen 1 Extreme, then we will talking and I will start to fully believe Native 4K 60fps claims in docked mode and would also explain the extra cooling fan in the new dock unit.

So we will see when we get hold of the official specs.

I think the biggest things I’m having to deal with on the new system is the potential price hike of the games and with these big chunky games, physical media you’re probably going to see less and less. These carts just won’t hold some of these games, I do believe I read cyberpunk is all in a cart so that’s promising I guess but how many companies will actually do that. Capcom and Konami I believe won’t. The system has somewhere around 500gb of space so that’s promising will fill up quick, I’ll definitely need at least a tb sd card, not sure what that’ll run these days.

@Medic_alert TFLOPS shows the raw power capabilities of the GFX cards! It gives you a rough baseline of the GFX capabilities of the SoC.

Gamer Nexus has already exposed NVidia with the terrible RTX50 generation cards and how they are no better than previous gen cards (some even worse), unless you turn on Frame generation ( Fake frames). Which is BS.

There is a big difference in actual Native 4K and DLSS upscaled to 4K. You can really see the difference on a large 4K TV ( 65+ inch ).

So if Nintendo is claiming that the Switch 2 is capable of Native 4K 60fps, then they need to actually able to back this up with facts and show us the SoC data sheet specs and not NVidia marketing shenanigans.

For the Switch 2 to be able to do this in Docked mode, it will need to be able to match the performance of the AMD Zen 1 Extreme SoC in PC handheld devices like the latest Rog Ally X.

If we finally get hold of the official specs and this new Switch 2 SoC is close to AMD Zen 1 extreme performance specs, I might actually start to believe the Switch 2 will be capable of delivering Native 4K for certain games.

@TYRANACLES It's worse. The Switch 2 has only 256GB built-in storage.
Actual Native 4K XBox Series X and PS5 games take up anywhere from 80-130GB of space on storage and these consoles come with 1TB built-in storage and I still had to expand them with 2 TB extra storage to be able to have a decent library of games stored on the console, instead of spending half my time clearing storage and downloading games.

So if the Switch 2 really is capable of Native 4K for certain games and Cyberpunk 2077 managed to compress down to 64GB in size, that doesn't bode well and means you are lucky to hold maybe 4-5 games tops on internal Switch 2 storage. Maybe 1-2 more with the smaller Nintendo games. But that's it.
So lets hope this announced 1TB Lexar card will be reasonably priced, but I don't hold my hopes up it will be anywhere under 150 bucks. That would mean you have to fork out at least 600 bucks to buy a Switch 2 + 1TB SD express card.
That's the same amount of money I paid for my PS5 two years ago!

@Jeronan Technically speaking, if a GPU is capable of 4K output, then it's also capable of native 4K output. Games with simple shading models might be able to reach native 4K/60 when docked. But, yes, the vast majority of games will need upscaling to get to 4K, that's true.

For handheld mode, upscaling might be even more necessary to reach 1080p.

@LikelySatan What device are you using thats 250 and plays the games you mentioned?

@Qwiff Exactly. As to why my fear is that Nintendo is getting trapped (willingly or unwillingly) into NVidia marketing shenanigans.

My LG OLED 4K TV already does 4K upscaling (quite well mind you. Especially with old DVDs) when it detects signals below 4K. Otherwise it would have been neigh on impossible to play Switch 1 games on my 65 inch TV, as it would have looked absolutely horrible with stretched 1080p on 65inch screen. Same with films and series on my old DVDs.

So, if all the Switch 2 does is offering 4K DLSS upscaling for the majority of games, then we just not going to notice any real difference from the Switch 1 other than higher framerates.
As it will just be the Switch 2 doing the 4K upscaling, instead of my TV.

Just to explain why upscaling is not the same as Native. Example, put a regular DVD in your PS5/XBox and play it on your TV (with 4K upscaling activated) and then put a Bluray on with native 4K image output.
I can tell you, you will see a difference on a 65inch TV. Even sitting 4 meters away on your couch.

@Jeronan Congratulations! I had to create an account just to clarify your ill-informed comments.

As other have said, the Switch’s flop count is really 394 gflops docked, 178 gflops in handheld. Sure, it uses a Tegra X1, but it was heavily modified by Nintendo to save battery and to be able to run at a measly 15 watts. Another misconception, the vanilla Tegra X1 could only do 512 gflops, not the 1 tflop you keep reading on the internet.

Rumors claimed that the Switch 2 would have 3.5 tflops docked, 1.71 tflops handheld. Seeing that Nvidia confirmed the “10x performance of Switch 1”, then those rumored numbers are indeed accurate.

That makes the Switch 2 comparable with the Series S. Switch 2 has some advantages over the SS like better upscaling, since DLSS is way better than FSR, and tensor cores that the Switch 2 can actually use for RT, unlike the SS’ 2 or 3 games that actually have it.

It also has more and presumably faster RAM, which was the worst bottleneck for the SS. Having more and “faster” RAM will indeed make more 4K games possible on Switch 2. RAM is a bigger factor than flops for 4K gaming, which is why people get mad at Nvidia when their ##70 series cards come with very low 8gb of VRAM instead of 16.

SS main advantages over the Switch 2 are a bit more flops (4tf vs 3.5tf, again, inconsequential), and the most notable, it has NVME storage. Switch 2 might use faster SD Express cards, but they have nowhere near the speeds of the Xbox’ SSD couple with the Velocity Architecture. Loading times will still be superior on the SS.

So I had to do this to inform you, since you actually are the outlier on this comment section that got the specs wrong on the Switch.

Those Kairosoft games are going to look SO INSANELY GOOD!!!!

I sometimes feel I've hardly scratched the surface of games on this generation... I hardly have time to get invested in games these days...

@YesImCynical Really? Then why did I just buy an RTX4070 card for my son that has 12GB VRAM?
It's the older xx70 cards that were long stuck on 8GB VRAM I agree.

Either way, NVidia has just become a nasty monopoly business and we can only hope that AMD can get their crap together with their GFX cards, as they did with their CPU's to destroy Intel and able to do the same with NVidia.

NVidia needs to get a good humiliation (although they are currently good at humiliating themselves currently with the whole RTX50 debacle), like Intel got and put back in their place.

It's why I just bought a RTX4070 OC card (12GB VRAM) for my son's PC and not an RTX5070 card I would had to pay 400 bucks more for (wich offers same or even less performance shown in recent tests).

When it comes to Native 4K, of course amount of RAM is important to handle loading much larger resolution textures.
But also requires much faster nVME storage, to load these much larger texture file sizes into RAM.
That is why both XBox Series X and PS5 (for example) come with 16GB of RAM and onboard nVME storage.

The question is, how much RAM will the Switch 2 have?
At least it's a positive that it requires the new microSD Express cards, as it's rumored to support up to 800MB/s read speeds.

So people complaining about this being a cash crab, need to understand that the current SDXC cards in Switch 1 are horribly outdated and have extremely slow read speeds. Hence why the Switch 1 suffers such long load times in many games.

From someone that owns a rog ally x and bunch of other game consoles, I'm going to get the Nintendo switch 2 console. My only concern is the high prices of the softwares and not the device... well a price to pay for wanting more from Nintendo.

@Jeronan only specific 4070 cards have the 12gb. Standard and laptop variants of the 4070 have 8, not enough for native 4K gaming.

Rumored RAM of the Switch 2 is 12GB, not enough for high end 4K gaming, but enough for DLSS to work its magic, though speed is still undetermined yet.

SD Express cards can have up to 600MBps of write speed, which is 6x faster than regular sdxc cards, but way slower than a current nvme.

People complain about these new cards for Switch 2, but the current SDXC cards are just not good at all for modern gaming. Either use the SD Express, or Nintendo had to make the Switch 2 significantly thicker to accommodate at least a 2230 nvme.

As long as Nintendo continues to favor 60fps as a minimum for most of its games, the technology powering that is just icing on the cake.

Though the idea of playing Metroid Prime 4 at 120fps piques my interest or than 4K 60. Playing at the high fps feels really good! The input response is stellar.

Trust me, it’s night and day - I had no idea how much until I got a nice gaming PC back in August last year and played something like God of War at like 120+ fps versus 60fps on PS5.

@YesImCynical

"The 2019 microSD Express standard bridges internal and external storage technologies by utilizing the same PCI Express/NVMe interface as modern SSDs, offering significantly faster performance than traditional microSD cards—up to 880MB/s read and 650MB/s write speeds versus the 104MB/s maximum of UHS-I cards."

Mind you. The Switch 1 doesn't even come close to that UHS-I limit, but is long rumored to cap out at around 60-70MB/s.
So yeah, it's to be seen if Nintendo here too didn't skimp on the SD reader and put in a cheaper module with lower read/write specs.

If there is one notorious minefield out there, then its in the card reader and USB component industry.

Cool. It’s not about graphics.

@Ryu_Niiyama Same. I've got a PS5 and a Series X, but the Switch was always my favorite just for what they managed to do with a handheld. I'm stoked to see what Switch 2 is capable of for a $450 handheld.

@ElkinFencer10 we are already seeing great things. DK Bananza looks so vibrant even watching on my phone on YouTube. And to think it’s a launch game that they hadn’t even mentioned before. And the launch period is often the “worst” games because the devs haven’t learned crazy tricks with the optimization yet. Very excited to see what will come down the pipe in the next few years.

@electrolite77 @skywake yea the switch 2 likely sits in between the ps4 and ps4 pro power wise. i would be very cautious of the curated footage they show running though. nintendo is going to ensure that nothing "bad" gets released prior to launch. this is a critical marketing period afterall. but we all know the demanding games are going to have some serious compromises and performance issues in various areas. also, the reason cyberpunk struggled as much as it did on ps4 was partly because they failed to optimize it...like at all. the switch port will obviously get more care since its being featured as a launch window game. i would keep expectations in check nontheless.

@Ryu_Niiyama Same dude, I'm stoked. I remember seeing Resistance: Fall of Man on my friend's PS3 the day it came out and thinking "Holy crap, this looks incredible," and it looked like it was just PS2 game rendered in 720p instead of 480i. Fast forward to The Last of Us, and it didn't even look like the same system. With how good Switch 2 games seem to look now, imagine what the 2030s will bring.

@westman98 they aren’t running at 4k though, these are running at a screen resolution of 1440p

@Galaxy2IsTheGOAT totally agree, but some will never get there heads around Nintendo's success. It's always been about amazing games, something Nintendo delivers in spades.

@Ryu_Niiyama agreed DK looks amazing.

@Serpenterror "for once", "finally", "again". Those words just don't work in this combination lol.

@KazooieTooie Ray tracing was possible with 2018 tech, so I'm sure this will be just fine

Now that is impressive! It's like, two console generations ahead of the Switch 1, and several mobile generations ahead it. We've yet to see how capable it'll be of running current-gen games, but cross-gen games show tons of promise already.
DLSS is confirmed here, which is even better news! Even though we still need to see it in some way, I wouldn't be surprised that's how many games will reach its highest resolution/performance targets, hopefully close to Xbox Series S at least. Ray-tracing is there too, but considering how demanding it is even for PS5/XSX, its usage will definitely be on select games (Fortnite?)
While price and battery life could be affected by demanding games, there is something Nvidia is incredibly ahead compared to its competitors: efficency. We need more hands-on to see how capable it'll be.

@kingv84 Retroid Pocket 5. It's emulation so sue me. Seems like a great time to pretend it's not now, imo.

Claims like this are kinda pointless, 10x the performance yet you'd hardly notice it sometimes.

This is all tech jargon and until consumers gets it into their hand and start playing it-this doesn't mean much since we don't get to see it until June 5, 2025 for those that get PreOrder to pickup first.

WOW i knew Switch 2 would be a jump compared to Nintendo Switch, but i was surprising suprised by how such jump was, 4K 60fps and 1080p 120fps(wow), i cant wait to play the next Super Smash Bros, 3D Mario im 4K 60fps or 1080p 120fps.