Sonic Frontiers On Switch Will Be The "Same Experience" As Other Platforms

As long as it doesn't cause seizures (ala Sonic Colors on Switch), it's fine.

A review would be nice.

Overselling it?

One good thing to come from leaks is I was able to see how the Switch version runs. If you search for "sonic frontiers switch gameplay" on YouTube you should be able to find vids with the first 30 or 60 mins of gameplay near the top without any late-game spoilers. I think it's looking really solid on the Switch.

So, all versions will look kinda crappy Interesting decision...

the early footage we have seen, actually looks pretty good, much better then I thought it would on a switch console, only issue is the the fps drops, other then that, I think it looks solid. I just hope there is a day one patch to fix the fps trouble, which I heard there is already a fix for if you zoom your camera out in the setting.

Forces and Colours Ultimate were pretty bad on Switch compared to other platforms, right? (well i suppose they were just pretty bad games in general...) I've no hope for Sonic these days, yet I still feel like I need to pay attention to the series...

@EarthboundBenjy maybe unpopular opinion, but I think the wii version looks better, The color, lighting, all of it looks much better on the wii, to me at least.

@EarthboundBenjy Forces was fine on Switch, it just ran at a solid 30fps instead of 60fps.

Colours I think had more difficulties and personally I hated the sound mixing too... the music was too quiet (a crime in a Sonic game) and some of the effects horribly loud, with no ability to adjust that... luckily you can on Frontiers.

"Not next gen..."

Spec-wise it's not even LAST gen!

I don't know given Sonic reputation for modern games it always has way to disappoint fans i hope does run properly on switch look at colours.

@Gamergirl94 Colours was by poor 3rd party devs. I think Sonic Team seem to know how to program for the Switch. Forces ran well and footage of Frontiers on Switch, on YouTube looks pretty smooth.

To be fair, the Switch version looks kinda solid from the leaks. The framerate seems to be at a mostly stable 30FPS. The pop in is horrendous though.

Is it just me or are Sonic games usually hyped to the max and once they release the games are ‘okay’. I mean totally legit from a marketing point of view and it’s the word we life in, I guess.
I hope the game is gonna be fast and great.

Be alot more interesting to see how Hogwarts legacy compares on switch to other platforms still don't think that will be a native port

I’m just hoping the game is good.

@Mattock1987 review embargo, sadly, until 3pm UK time 7th November.
I imagine like Forces this will be cheaper fairly soon so happy to wait on it anyway.

I've pre ordered. Can't wait. I'll get it on pc later maybe. Switch will have always been the target anyway because its likely the larger audience

@marck13 Probably misplaced nostalgia. It feels like sonic fans weren't lucky enough to get a Nintendo console and never knew better, so they convinced themselves that sonic was a good IP and refuse to change their mind. Same with Crash Bandicoot.

"Same experience"? So it's going to look and run like junk on every platform then. I love my Switch but let's not pretend any game on there is comparable to other platforms.

I don't understand why Sonic Frontiers costs $100 in Australia. Most Switch games are $80. Most stores will have it cheaper but it is still strange. I was going to get the PC version so I can play it at 60fps, but I am not spending $100 on a game

@Rhaoulos that's just ridiculous. Sonic is fantastic. Sega mega drive was awesome

@GX_64 oh my goodness! 80? I barely want to spend over 60 for a game let alone 80.

In short "We sabotaged the PC and consoles versions to please Nintendo and there shills" That is really pathetic. I guess we now know why the game has terrible pop in.

@Baler @NinjaNicky
That is not how it works

@Westlondonmist thanks for the info. I don’t like review embargo’s, don’t really think they serve much of a purpose, and now I regret pre ordering

@Snatcher $80 AUD is about $52 USD. Games for other consoles sometimes cost $100 or even $110, but I am not used to it since the only current console I have is a Switch

@GX_64 Sheesh, I wonder why it cost so much?

Preordered on Xbox. I'm just not sure I trust Sega's ability to utilize the Switch's hardware to its maximum extent. This is Sonic, so framerate--and everything else regarding speed--matters. And going on 2023, now owning an Xbox One X, an Xbox Series S and an Xbox Series X, I don't want to go back to Switch resolutions just for a chance at a decent framerate. Hell, I could probably play it on my One X and not only get better performance, but much better graphics at 4K as well. The Switch is getting harder and harder to be interested in by the month--Nintendo, do something!

Still gonna get it on pc. Not taking any chances.

Look, SEGA have let me down a few times now, recently. Monkey Target was inexcusable. This is going to have to review exceedingly well to get me on board. So much so that Geoff Keighly stops being friends with Hideo Kojima and goes off with a random guy in a Sonic outfit.

Yet no real footage of it two days before release.

Mmmkay.

@Clyde_Radcliffe Forces, on any platform, was not "fine."

So its a lie or they are dialing back the next gen versions to match. Time move on from the weaker systems.

The Hedgehog Engine. I like its name.

Is Nintendo's Mario game engine called the Plumber Engine?

@MythTgr

I'm aware, looks guff.

But SEGA/Sonic Team themselves haven't been forthcoming with official footage just assurances.

Yeah that isn’t a good sign

Just want to say as far as comments about Sonic Colors:

I saw all the awful videos at release. It can’t be argued that it was atrocious.

That being said, I played it months later after a ton of patches and what exists now really isn’t bad at all. I had a lot of fun. Also they patched in an option for the original (arguably better) versions of the songs too so that helped a lot. The Colors soundtrack is awesome.

Then show us some Switch footage. Also, don't claim that even though the game is 30fps, the controls are 60fps. Whatever that means.

By “comparable,” do they mean Sonic will be blue in all platforms? Rings will be collectible?
“By leveraging the Hedgehog Engine, we have ensured Sonic can jump and collect on all platforms.”

Kidding aside, I really can’t wait for this to drop so I can put my fears to rest. I’d love a new Sonic but from what I’ve seen of this game it’s only made me more worried. Lots of potential but I’m really just wanting to hear some testimonials from real people first.

I love Sonic, but I can not trust SEGA on this.
My Series X Version is already on the way! 😇

@KindofaBigDeal There is plenty of leaked footage if you know where to look, if you can catch it before YouTube and other sites strike it down.

@MythTgr That's exactly why I didn't pre-order it on Switch. And that decision was made before any gameplay leaks. Sega is predictable in their product quality (sub-par to average at best), and the Switch itself just keeps looking worse for multi-platform games every month. :/

@UltraZelda64

Seen it, not great!

@KindofaBigDeal Yeah, I'm honestly not sure what I think overall. It seems like it might be fun... at times at least. And it seems like it might be boring. There are long sections where I don't know WTF is going on, yet I've seen some really cool fun-looking bosses. I still don't know how the classic-style zones fit in, and I am concerned because I heard there are only five of them and they're short. If the whole game is mostly just that overworld, I'm afraid how long it will last before getting boring. I mean, listen to the music that plays constantly. It's slow, boring, completely unexciting, and just not Sonic-like at all.

Honestly, I just want the game to just hurry up and unlock so I can find out for myself. It could be good, but it seems like one of those games where watching someone else play might not do the game complete justice. Most of the footage I've seen is I think on the Switch, so I hope I am pleasantly surprised at least with the game's graphical performance and capabilities on the Series X.

When do reviews for this game drop? Still on the fence but so far hearing nothing but positivity about this one.

@Bizzyb Sometime tomorrow. Literally the day before release. I think 10AM EST or equivalent. Then the game will probably unlock for the rest of the public to play only 14 hours later (depending on time zone and possibly platform). It's very stupid.

@UltraZelda64

Well I am probably not the right person to listen to as I have never found a 3D Sonic title to be anything more than decent. Even the the popular ones like Generations and Colours I have found underwhelming and not approaching the greatness of the 2d games.

The footage of Frontiers I have seen shows nothing more than a boring game with a boring overworld with very short "classic" levels mixed in.

Won't be getting my hard earned anyway.

So it's 'going to look comparable to high end hardware', even though it's not using the same high end assets, and runs at 30fps. Okay then.

@Mattock1987 review is coming tommorow

There's a lot of misinterpretation with many of the comments here. It seems like a lot of people are taking the term "same" way too literally. I'm pretty what the devs mean by "same" is being playable.

@KindofaBigDeal Honestly I agree it does look boring at times, and I swear the music at this point is just driving me nuts, but I am at least hoping for something decent and fun. 3D Sonic really is hit or miss, with most of the fun I had being on the first Sonic Adventure. This game might end up being okay, but it doesn't look like a masterpiece, or top-tier Sonic action. But yeah, nothing beats the 2D originals and Mania.

The reason it will look comparable on the Switch and a High End PC is because it won't look impressive on either. Also your enemies are low asset polygons how hard is that to render?

@Sequel
I have my popcorn and poncho ready. It's gonna be a blood bath lol

@calbeau
No it's called nothing because Nintendo spends their time on making fun games, and doesn't have extra time to burn to call their engine the Wa Hoo Engine

@UltraZelda64
The game will look the same on the Xbox Series X, just less blurry. But weirdly it will still have tons of pop in, the environments will still be empty and the enemies will still be polygons.

@strollin_stu
I can't call myself a Sonic Fan, simply because I have been around since the original (on the Genesis) and I have seen a lot, a lot a lot a lot of terrible Sonic games. Doesn't mean I don't want to be surprised by a genuinely good Sonic game (Mania was a breath of fresh air). But from the hours of gameplay I have seen of Frontier and from Sonic Teams track record I can feel confident saying I have zero faith this game isn't go on the naughty list.

@Old_Man_Nintendo I feel the same. I have to give them credit that this title looks more Polished than the commen sonic junk out there but the core gameplay is still eeeeextremely boring imo. 2D sonic is a little more my taste but still not something I will spent much time on. Mania was great though. 👍

Too bad sonic will never be great because I still feel alot of nostalgia for him. I had the megadrive 2 as a kid with all 3 sonic games. Those were the days. 😁

@Sequel thanks.

@Schizor88
I don't see the polish in this title, the animation is stilted and rough looking, wind doesn't blow the trees, or grass. The explosions look early xbox 360 and the enemies don't have physics to them they just fade away when killed.

@Old_Man_Nintendo Compared to other sonic games I think it does have more polish. That doesn't mean it's a polished game 😁

@Old_Man_Nintendo From the 3 hours of footage I saw, I have to disagree with you.

What the game DOES seem to struggle with, though, is conveyance. The players I saw seemed to be struggling with what the game was wanting them to do. Heck, I wasn't sure what they were supposed to be doing with what I watched. As far as polish, it's HIGHLY polished and looks and sounds fantastic. For me, it's not looking very fun to play, though.

@SonOfDracula
Polish must mean two different things for us. Polish means you have transition animations when moving left or right on a rail, not just snap to position. Polish means the environment gets as much detail as the characters, hell even Sonic spines (hair) don't move much even in his fastest speeds.

@Old_Man_Nintendo I mean if you want to labor over such minor details, you do you.

@SonOfDracula
Minor details that have been present in previous Sonic games from two generations ago but sure

@strollin_stu
Even if I have never played a Sonic game before I still wouldn't be impressed with Froniters. I am a life long gamer (35 yrs and counting) and I have played thousands of games (probably tens of thousands) in my lifetime and nothing about Sonic Frontiers screams quality, effort or even good.

@Mattock1987 yeah I'm very dubious of review embargos. Do they know there is release issues and they just want it out for Christmas? If you are confident in your game surely you want reviews out well before release date.

Oh man the media around this game is bad. No, it wont be the same experience. It will probably run like *****. Stop lying.

Just watched the first hour of the handheld mode. I think technically it looks good enough. Now I really have the feeling this game will be good. It looks to be a fun game for completionists and I think I will come to appreciate the tone of the game.

@strollin_stu

You have a good attitude towards gaming. Game and let game.

@strollin_stu
My observations and comments would only hurt those interested in Sonic's latest rushed mess if my comments rang with a bit of truth. Trust me there are plenty of fun games on the market that you don't need to rush to a Sonic game when Sega shows up. Mario and Rabbids Sparks of Hope and Bayonetta 3 are a ton of fun and infinitely more creative than Frontiers.

@strollin_stu
Let us change this by playing everyday possible and having fun.

@EarthboundBenjy colors was a pretty well received game on the wii u granted some issues on the switch version but overall still a good game.

@RiasGremory
78% on Metacritic is fairly decent for a Sonic Game, especially on the Wii.

I want it on PS5; my kids want it on Switch. Am I really going to double-dip on this..... (No.)?

@WhiteTrashGuy
Please don't pre-order wait until tomorrow at 7am PST and see if it claws its way out of the dump where it will most likely land.

@strollin_stu
Just watched a fun video called, All Cyberspace Levels PS5, the video was 40 mins long and it only had 4 themes for all of them (one of which was Green Hill) and it never really changed, each of them could be completed in under 2 mins.

I would hope SEGA optimized the Switch version since it'll probably be the best selling version. I'm much more concerned about the actual quality of the game rather than performance of the Switch version.

@KryptoniteKrunch
Then read my comment above yours. The Cyberspace levels are 4 themes, and are over in their entirety in around 40 mins

@Old_Man_Nintendo I think the fact that there is only four themes suck, up at least they only make up part of the game.

From leaks that I heard it sounds like any rushed work is sega and not sonic team, and the director apparently struggled to even get the game delayed to begin with. All these failed sonic games, and there main problem is always that there rushed, er boom is er, special lol. 06 writing wasn’t the best but the stages from what ai have seen and heard actually play well, it’s the bugs that ruined it, that came from, you guessed it sega rushing them.

Forces probably was also rushed, on top of the fact that the game was falsely advertised, I really feel like sega is jacking up sonic team.

But, All I need this game to do, is lay the foundation, so they can improve on it with more games, please!

@Snatcher
My hope is this game bombs and is such an embarrassment to Sega that they finally sell the Sonic IP to a company that cares

The Switch can't handle high framerates.

@Old_Man_Nintendo I hate to agree but, wile I don’t want the game to bomb, I do want it to be in someone else’s care, sonic team cares, sega doesn’t, and it’s ruining there potential, they need to be with a company that actually cares about the quality, and giving the team the time they need.

Sonic team cares, the fans care, sega, doesn’t, and it sucks,

@Snatcher
I think Toys For Bob should remake Sonic 1-3 like they did with Spyro and Crash

@Old_Man_Nintendo Like the classics? I don’t think they need remaking, they are fine as are and mania is a great bit of extra content.

As for the adventure games, I’d be all for it.

@Jop Monday probably.

I feel like I'm at least coming into this as a lifetime Sonic fan from the very beginning, giving Sonic Team the benefit of the doubt, while--although seeing some things of concern--I am not just writing this one off just yet. I do, in fact, see some potentially positive and intriguing things about the game. Either way, the more I learn and watch, honestly, the more excited I am not only for the reviews and comments to drop tomorrow, but for my own copy to unlock tomerrow at midnight.

Old_Man_Nintendo, I understand your complaints and concerns and many of them are valid to at least some degree... but I feel like you've already made up your mind based purely on Sega's own spotty history with their handling of the franchise and their piss-poor reveal/marketing for this game. It doesn't really seem like you're giving it a chance--you're just jumping to conclusions on the game.

@Snatcher
I think the classics reimagined as 3d platformers

@Old_Man_Nintendo The original games were remade... in the Retro Engine by Christian Whitehead (Sonic 1/2 mobile/Origins) and Stealth (Sonic 3&K in Origins)... what more could Toys For Bob do, and how could they do it better? They did a great job with the Crash Bandicoot trilogy, but they did the same exact thing with that trilogy that Taxman and Stealth did with the original Sonic trilogy... they took the original source material, made it look and sound better, and put it in a newer, better engine with more modern features. All of the games, for the most part, remained the same.

@Bizzyb Positivity? Sega put an EMBARGO on reviews. That's never a good sign, especially not with a Sega game. It's literally what publishers do to secure a few more pre-orders before people figure out a game is bad and steer clear.

@Old_Man_Nintendo That would be interesting to see, I just wonder how they would do it.

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@Thehandsomedan Not sure about that, since Nintendo also does this with game reviews also. Metroid Dread had reviews also only the day before the release and it was a great game.

Probably gonna wait on reviews but the little bit of gameplay I've seen looks fine. Better than I was expecting. Hopefully there's no input lag like in Colors.

With Bayonetta 3 and Persona 5 Royal being as good as they were on Switch, I now am confidence that I would take Iizuka's word for it. Heck even Sakurai was impressed with Sonic Frontiers on Switch so yeah can't wait for the launch, I will definitely get this on pre-order now.

@EarthboundBenjy Sonic Forces was a lazy effort and Sonic Colors Ultimate was handle by an outside dev (Blind Squirrel) that never had any good reputation (WWE 2K18) on Switch. I believe that this time Iizuka and Sonic Team finally perfected 3D Sonic on Switch and probably next-gen too.

idSoftware in '93: "we've polished Doom so well it will be the same experience as on high-end PCs 30 years later" ... here we go again

@Gex Yeah it can go either way. An embrago being a day or two before release isn't always a bad sign. Having the embargo be on the exact day of release is a more troubling sign, which happened with Boom.

Well I don’t believe it at all.

"Sonic Frontiers On Switch Will Be The Same Experience As Other Platforms And it's going to look very comparable."

Impossible.

I think Digital Foundry will be the judge of that one.

@Thehandsomedan Everything I've heard and seen so far sounds and looks, positive, yes. I didnt know about the last minute Embargo though and yea...those are usually not a good sign...usually.

Like I said, I'm holding out for reviews and hoping for the best.

I don't trust 3D Sonic game to run well within the first two months.
I think Bethesda has a better track record than Team Sonic.

Sega:
"Sonic Frontiers on Switch will be the same experience as other platforms and it's going to look very comparable."

Digital Foundry, John Linneman:
“Uhhh…let’s just say, if you have another option, please consider that other option. If you only have Switch then you can still have fun, I think…somewhat.”

Nintendo, it's been 6 years. Don't lie to yourself that the Switch can keep up with the PS5 & new Xbox and just release a new console already