Zelda: Breath Of The Wild 'Second Wind' Expansion Mod Adds Brand New Hinox King Boss Battle

can we get some whinging about mods/hacks and/or half-baked comments about the nintendo website posting about them in this comment section tonite fellas!!!

I wish I had a way to actually play this, since it looks awesome, but I guess I just have to hope BotW 2 ends up being as cool as this.

Too bad Nintendo didn’t adopt this as DLC

What a nice looking mod, I sure hope the comment section doesn't get heated over it

Wow what's taking nintendo so long to take these guys to court? Probably waiting for this to be out a while longer so they can claim more money

I've played this mod, parts of it are great and for the better, parts are just kinda dumb. The whole hunger system part of the mod sounds unique and potentially more engaging on paper, but in reality, its a new tweak to the game that's for the worse that needlessly slows things down. Luckily you can pick and choose many of the mods you do or don't want to use in Second Wind, and I'd say overall it's worth having a go, but I'd say you can skip on the 'Survival of the Wild' or hunger system part of the mod.

I think this is a pretty fun mod overall. I've tried it out myself a few times. Has some rough edges so far but it's still deep in development so that's understandable. It would be cool if they finish before BOTW 2 comes out, but who knows?

Have these guys ever released a game?

Why I would I read Harry Potter fanfiction when the real stuff by J.K. Rowling is right there?

@GayusGayer when you want new material in said world but they haven't released any yet, same reason for any mod expansion to any game (see: nearly any bethesda game)

@UltimateOtaku91
Ok and on what basis can Nintendo take them to court?
If it works like any other mod, it certainly isn't because of copyright, because a mod needs the original game data to work
and as long as they don't distribute that data, they are not doing anything that would be against the law.

@GayusGayer
Why not do both?

Besides, this doesn't seem to be its own game, but an expansion.
It just gives the original game more content.

@Kirgo so they aren't distributing it? So on pc I can't play this mod?

@UltimateOtaku91 they aren't distributing the game, no, assuming you ripped your own copy of BOTW you could and it'd be perfectly legal for all parties

do people not know anymore that mods don't just work by themselves...?

@UltimateOtaku91
They distribute a mod which requires the original game to work.
Where you get the original game from is not their problem.

@GayusGayer game devs need to start somewhere…..

@somebread I know what mods are but I also thought they were distributing it along with the game online, but I see that you have do get the main game yourself then download their mod seperately.

@Kirgo thanks for clearing that up as I thought they were allowing you to download the main game with it

Just thought, that game the forgotten City was a mod off skyrim to begin with and now it's a full legal game on the store, so could the same happen with this?

@UltimateOtaku91 didn't that botched huge fallout new vegas mod from earlier in the year have a steam page too? ultimately i think it depends on the publishers and i don't think nintendo would be willing to extend a branch honestly

@GayusGayer
Look they seem to be really smart and creative using premise assets. But probably can’t make up their own. Or maybe they love Zelda and want to make their own adventures. Either way it is free and they aren’t making you play it so what is your problem.

The abandoned mine looks cool - one thing BotW was missing was a proper underworld.

Don't you have to hack your Switch to try this...which is illeagal and can result in huge fines?

@GayusGayer Well, the thing is, unlike a fan-game, this is a mod. Mods are usually pushed out by passionate fans to give people a new experience for a game, so that they can continue loving the game they like with a new coat of paint.

@Screen Hacking your switch actually isn't illegal. Pirating a game is however.

@GayusGayer true, JK Rowling confirming wizard teleporting their turd away as they stood and shat themselves on the spot is more fanfic material than any fans can come up with in their fanfic.

@VoidofLight

Ah ok.

Weren;t people arrested for hacking them, or is just selling the service illegal?

hope Nintendo takes his ideas and code and put it in the next game and don't give him any credit or money and then wait for the hypocrites that say pirating doesn't hurt try to say anything about it

Yay, something I can't play on my Nintendo system...🙄

@Screen I'm pretty sure you can only play it on an emulator on PC.

@ChakraStomps it's almost like a huge corporation is different from one dude wow!!! false equivalence is in my top 5 fallacies too!!

@twztid13

Now that's illegal, that I'm sure.

@Screen if it's your own backup, no

@Screen Not if you are playing a copy that you bought and dumped yourself.

@Screen Emulating isn't actually illegal. It's pirating a copy of the game that is.

@Screen Also, yeah, I'm pretty sure the people who were arrested were arrested because they were selling people hacked consoles as a service.

Weird you're still reporting on PC mods.

@UglyCasanova I agree. it's strange they do, given that you'd think they'd be against it due to this being affiliated somewhat with Nintendo themselves, in the form of Review copies. However, I guess talking about the mods is different from encouraging people to download said mods.

Holy Crap, that is brilliant.
Nintendo should employ these people

@somebread exactly I never get the gatekeeping aspect of modding… people are so against it and don’t realise games like doom have embraced mods and now release them with mods. It’s no different to me than spins offs that are written and directed by someone that isn’t the original author/director… like Mandalorian…. It’s excellent and isn’t anything to do with Lucas. Why do people think mods are bad?!? Baffles me.

@Stocksy Not to get totally off track here but Mandalorian might not be the best example. Disney owns Star Wars and can, unfortunately, twist it into any grotesque shape they want.

Fortunately, they’ve kept Dave Filoni onboard through the change from Lucas to Disney. Dave Filoni has worked directly with George Lucas for years and is one of the main people creating (producing, writing, directing at various times) screen time with Star Wars’ heart intact.

So Mandalorian is both created by the IP owners and managed by a (mostly very well trusted and beloved) Lucas disciple. Now I’m off to buy coffee and toilet paper. Happy new year.

@VoidofLight
I'm pretty sure BotW 2 will be a LOT cooler than some fan-made dlc to the first game.

@Cia I hope so. I'm not very confident that BotW 2 will be more than something that feels like a standalone DLC, given they're reusing the same map from the first game. I'm hoping they'll end up doing much more with the game though.

Lemme guess, we still can't talk about it, either? I recently got into modding the game with the Switch version...I feel like ADDING content is kinda risking a ban, though. I'm just sticking with cosmetics and "replacements" or whatever, I just have Linkle mods set up on mine. -w-

@SuperZeldaFun I obviously don't work at NL and I'm just a mod, but I can say...you do have to know exactly what you're doing. Otherwise you could brick the system (meaning you can't use it anymore at all, it's rare, though) or Nintendo can ban you. Also hacking the Switch if done wrong can also damage the system, anyways yeah just look it up.

@VoidofLight
It's Nintendo's best developers and the development has already took years despite using the same engine. With this recipe, we're gonna get something huge and impactful instead of a dlc. Since they don't have to reinvent the engine and graphics, everything else can be expanded in ways we don't know until the game is out.

How does one go about getting this content on the switch?
Mine is already running SX OS.

@Meteoroid

A myriad of them, eh? Pray, tell?

@Meteoroid

You contradicted yourself. You said it isn’t possible, but then said it would be if Nintendo approved. That’s exactly what I was saying when I posted Nintendo should have adopted the add on as DLC. Not sure the reason for the contradiction you made other than just contradicting for the sake of conversation.

@Meteoroid

Sounds like it.

I don’t agree with your stance that it could NEVER happen and wouldn’t EVER be possible, it is just highly, highly unlikely to happen and is entirely uncharacteristic of Nintendo as a company, so won’t happen.

I’m just leaving the door open to possibility where you are closing it entirely. That’s all I take from it.

@Meteoroid

"They don't just create a random collection of content and then stir it all up and a game is made. This process has not been followed in the creation of this fan-made content."

Unless you're in the development team it's best not to assume you know how things are done. Content is reviewed, evaluated, refined/rejected and often times scrapped as its being developed.

@Meteoroid that still doesn't justify claiming things were randomly put together. The team may not be official, and has never tried to push to be seen as official but it has its own standards.

As for actually adopting mods, it's not impossible just unlikely as Nintendo's OS was not developed with that in-mind. It'd take an overhaul of their existing game launching framework as well as other real-world developments to allow it all. However, the big thing that gets in the way is their view on how they protect their brand and what impedes on it. Modding is just not within their interests.

@ChakraStomps actually, piracy doesn't hurt. a study conducted in the EU showed that piracy correlates positively with game sales.
https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2017/09/displacement_study.pdf
referring to p.148:
"For games, the estimated effect of illegal online transactions on sales is positive[...]The overall estimate is 24 extra legal transactions (including free games) for every 100 online copyright infringements"
so, you're wrong, and I'm surprised your tongue isn't tired, considering how vigorously you're licking corporate Nintendo's boots in that comment

@SuperZeldaFun completely incorrect use of the word analogy, and it 100% isn't the modder's concern where a consumer gets their game from. why would it be? and if they did concern themselves with it, what would come of that?

@SuperZeldaFun I misunderstood your comment. I thought you were saying the previous comment you quoted was a bad analogy, and telling people to please ignore it. My bad on that one, so I apologise. However, I didn't call you an idiot. So you're right, you don't have to take that from me—especially since I didn't give it in the first place.
As for my other comment that you reference, I stand by it. It had substance beyond my closing insult (and was in response to what was, frankly, a provocative comment). I don't owe a polite demeanour to someone who broadly calls others hypocrites (from a verifiably incorrect and morally unjustified position, mind you) and wishes for the demise of passionate fan projects.

@ElStormo You say they get 24 for every 100 stolen. That is wack data anyway. Why don't you steal anything else that you can't copy? Are you a wimp and scared of getting caught? Go steal gasoline or cash from a bank?

Why not? oh, you only steal when you feel you can get away with it but ignore that you are stealing from someone else effort. You don't care since you never create anything of value right?

You are just a lowly thief. I don't care if the company is rich or poor, you are stealing from creative people yet you probably have no problem telling people to pay all their taxes and fees to governments that are parasites and don't create anything of value.

If it is ok to not pay for games, music, etc, then it should be ok to not pay for ANYTHING correct?
Now go and bury your head in more illogic to defend your lazy thieving ways.