Nintendo's Share Value Takes a Hit Following Financial Results

So... How about that DeNA capital alliance? Still not bringing returns in spades, but perhaps they could port over their mobile titles over to NS? Ah, that might confuse some... But it's supposed to be able to play mobile, portable, and home titles. If Nintendo is struggling to convey that to fickle investors, I hope they can fare better with customers... Otherwise, we'll have another 2011 situation all over again.

I say Nintendo buys up all their own stock.

It'd be worth it just to avoid appeasement alone. Then again, staying profitable is important. Good to have investors lighting a fire under their butts to keep them in the black, even if they are a bunch of trigger happy idgits.

DeNA should make at least one game for Nintendo Switch.

Can someone explain one thing to me? Ninty made $567m in profit right? Out of like $1.4b in sales, the fiscal year is not over, that means the first days of the Switch being sold will still count for this fiscal year, will all that money coming in be ALL PROFIT since I assume production costs and shipping have already been deducted from that 1.4b in sales?

@Anti-Matter They are on the list of developer currently working on Switch projects.

Well speaking of fire emblem heroes - I think it's a really solid fire emblem light and good fun to have on the go but I can't see it making too much money!

@Juma009 Does not work way. I can't tell you exactly how it works, but no, not all Switch is going to be "all profit."

They probably make more per 3DS since its 6 years old and cheap to make.

Nintendo has to figure out how to appeal to the masses again. These numbers show they are failing at that miserably.

After super Mario run is released on Android for a bit they need to do a sale and cut the price to $5

@Juma009 No, production and shipping costs are capitalized and then deducted when sold as "cost of goods sold." Additionally, R&D is usually capitalized too until a product is released or scrapped. So all the Switch's R&D will start to amortize when it goes on sale.

The smartphone gaming market, especially in Japan, has already matured," said Tomoaki Kawasaki, an analyst at Iwai Cosmo Securities Co. "So having been ignored for a while, dedicated consoles are once again grabbing attention."

Nintendo were too late to the party once again it seems.

More of the usual jumpy stock, it's still above what they had in June2016 at least. And we still need January-March for the full picture.

I'm ready to Switch!

@Billsama DeNA is working on the online infrastructure, the list didn't include only developers.

@PlywoodStick
Quit talking drivel.

@Octane Is that confirmed? I have not seen official information about it.

@Billsama Yes, that was pretty much the entire point of their cooperation, apart from the mobile stuff.

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/nintendo-goes-mobile-with-dena-announces-nx-console-

"Beyond mobile, the jury is still evidently out on the Nintendo Switch, which will naturally be under pressure to match 3DS sales levels"

Yeah not gonna happen. After the Wii U debacle, Switch will be a success to sell GameCube like lifetime figures. And those figures were once the bottom of the barrel for Nintendo.

This barely counts as a hit, to be honest.
I mean, look at the second graph on this news, it is not like the value actually dropped by an unusual margin. It rises and falls harder all the time by without any obvious reasons. And looking at a more recent graph, they recovered already a bit of that...

Monday could be interesting if #Switch is trending after the SB commercial. Not sure what 30 seconds they'll show - pj girl, champagne bottle and guy on a toilet, or Zelda and Spaltoon - but it needs to be trending Sunday night and Monday.

@AlexSora89

Even being new here, I get a smile at your posts. This one made me laugh out loud in my expense report meeting.

As usual, I don't get investors, but the graph doesn't look as if here was a huge hit. If one were to have disposable cash, and one were to believe in the Switch, one might get in while stock is low.

@Rumncoke25
So I'm doing my job right! Thank you! ^^

I get the feeling that investors just love the easy profits of mobile phone gaming. Which is understandable, but fairly disconnected from the broader interests of actual gamers.

I think we should all be pulling Nintendo out of the hardware business. It's just not worth it anymore.

"The spotlight is on the Switch"

@Rumncoke25 I feel I do understand it a bit.
For one thing, as the analysts quote implys, some investors still think mobile games should be THE big thing for Nintendo whether that makes sense.
Secondly Nintendo did downgrade the operating profit outlook which is a negativ thing, small or not.

Now, since anyone can purchase stock, there are always the ones who do not know the market well and will jump on seemingly bad news like that, whether it is truly that bad or not. More experienced short term investors, who know what they are doing, will now sell as well since they know that others will do that and that would automatically lose them money, even if the news really aren't that bad.
Something like that can easily get out of control a bit.

The fact that the share value now still dropped only by a small amount and seems to be already on the way of recovering just shows that all this really isn't big news at all.

@Kirgo
Appreciate the explanation . I also didn't think it looked a big deal, and figured that at least short term stock should bounce back and up.

By the way, something different that is (unsurprisingly) not being talked about a lot, is the fact that Nintendo is yet again about to make profit at the end of the fiscal year. Even with the Wii U as weak and now dead as it is Nintendo has still been profitable most of the recent years.

I wanted to point that out because that is exactly what most of the doomsayers do not want to understand. Even with things going as badly as with the Wii U they are still making a profit.

Basically the stock market is gambling & most of the people doing that gambling have very little understanding of the industry they're meant to buy or sell.

It's a shame, Nintendo isn't sitting on the big bags of money they used to (I'm aware it doesn't work that way ), meaning ill-considered drops in their share value like this can actually effect them unlike Apple who can repeatedly make dumb moves but not really feel the hits.

If knew something about stock market I would buy some Nintendo share right now.

Investor are blind imo.

Investors are the biggest trolls it seems... except they actually can threaten Nintendo to a certain extent... "Nuh, they should make mobile games, nuh-huh. The Switch is going to fail, derp derp."

I can't understand why nintendo life shows this.We are gamers.who bloody cares.It's always up and down.

Other mobile contractors? Don't the big N own a stake in DeNA?

Stock values are a fickle creature...to me, this is about how Super Mario Run not monetizing like investors wanted it to. To Nintendo, this should be a gateway to their Switch and 3DS business. To investors, this should have been a cash cow that leads to more investment in mobile games. Investors also seem to lack confidence in Switch's success as a handheld hybrid.

I'm thinking it might be a good time to buy and hang on for a year to see what happens.

@gatorboi352 The fact that it's grabbing up JRPGs that would've been on 3DS (which were basically the lifeblood of the system) makes me think that the Switch will leave the Wii U and Gamecube in the dust. Whether it competes with 3DS numbers remains to be seen.

Nintendo simply no longer have any understanding of markets or sales. Too busy with their heads buried in the sand.

Exactly what I expected regarding Mario Run. The price was only part of the problem - it was also unrealistic expectations. The fact is, there have already been countless similar tap to jump platformers on mobile platforms before, some of them comparable to Mario Run in quality. Pokemon Go was a different beast - absolutely a fluke, and the sort of thing you cannot predict or repeat.

@rjejr You can actually watch the 30 second Super Bowl spot on YouTube. It's a good ad

@TeslaChippie Thanks, now I don't have to watch the game. No wait, still need an excuse for to much beer and junk food.

Well that ad was, a great ad for Zelda, minus the mentioning of playing it on Wii U. Where's the Switch doing it's switching, it's just a Zelda ad. I'm going back and watching it again, that can't be it. $5 mil for a Zelda ad.

OK, only Zelda, and he never even takes the Joycon off the device, he uses a Pro, not a Grip, so it looks like a portable w/ TV out if people even pay that much attention and don't think it's simply a commercial for Zelda. Which it is.

Oh Nintendo, 1 step forward, 2 steps back, as always.

Oh sorry, thanks for letting me know, that ranting wasn't directed at you, I was just hoping for a little ARMS, Spaltoon, MK8D and 1 2 Switch even. I know they can only get so much into a 30 second ad, but only Zelda doesn't sell the console when the same game is on Wii U.

imo N is doing everything right this time. Coming december will be really big. i mean like reeeeaaaaaly big! Fire Emblem is already within the top 100 of the highest grossing, so my guess would be that those who hold on to their stock a little longer will be rewarded big time in about a year or so..

No shocker here....practically nothing to sell

I've been criticising Mario Run for a while... there was obviously not going to be any longevity to it's success with the approach they've been taking to it... that has obviously been realised now.
Fire Emblem Heroes seems to have a similar problem... it seems like a decent game so far, and I'm sure it will get a decent number of downloads, but there's currently no real reason to spend any money on it.

Personally, I get the impression that they see their mobile games as more of a marketing tool, rather than being a proper source of income... a way of getting mobile gamers interested in the different Nintendo franchises, in order to attract more people to their consoles, which is their primary source of income.

@rjejr Saw an article that Nintendo was doing some work on demographic research with the 30 second spot. The extended ad had people of all ages, in all locations, as per usual, but the 30 second one only had a Millennial playing the Switch on TV and on portable in various rooms around his house. Apparently Nintendo got a lot of feedback after the initial reveal that people were excited to be able to take the Switch around the whole house (instead of like the Wii U, which is obviously tethered) and so they are marketing to that. Too bad they didn't show him on the crapper, too, but he WAS eating in the commercial at one point so I guess they'd have to show him washing his hands after and they can't waste precious time on that.

@rjejr Here it is:
" "We heard from U.S. gamers that they were tremendously excited about the proposition [of Switch], and that they couldn't wait to experience the power of a home console portably within their own homes. Not only inside the home and outside, but just moving from room to room." Chavez says Nintendo shared that feedback with the company's counterparts in Japan, culminating in the Super Bowl ad (look for it to air during the game's fourth quarter), where the player carries the experience seamlessly from bed to breakfast to couch."

http://time.com/4653672/nintendo-switch-super-bowl-commercial/

@Mart1ndo Let's wait and see what happens before concluding it's drivel.

@rjejr It's a Super Bowl ad, so this is like, five and a half million steps forward from what they were doing with the Wii U. Also, it's much better to focus your advertising. One good game will sell systems; those of us on the internet whining about the lack of a "good launch lineup" constitute maybe... .001% of their customer base.

@TheLobster "demographic research"

Wow, Nintneod did research? I'm shocked.

I do like the long ad, but you can read my take on the 30 second SB spot in #40. Or tldr - it's not a Switch ad, it's a Zelda ad.

All anybody watching that ad is going to see is Zelda. Maybe they'll then think about it and say "Wait, was that the Wii U, or did Nintnedo make a dock so the 3DS can do TV out?" It's like the Wii U all over again, is Wii U an accessory for the the Wii? Only this time it's - Is the switch a dock for the 3DS? They did it better last night - TV first, then take that great big tv screen game w/ you, it's a portable. Showing portable mode first makes it look like a portable w/ TV out. Morons.

Also, Switch to me means the "switch" clicking sound of the Joycon going on and off, which they don't even show in that Zelda ad, it's a portable in a dock w/ a Pro controller, that's the entire ad, they don't even show the Joycon on the Grip. It's a portable when it starts and a portable in a dock when it ends.

Great Zelda ad, lousy Switch ad. Though if it gets 20 million people to click thru to the longer version on YT, then it's done it's job.

@electrolite77 @TeslaChippie

OK, I agree w/ both of you up to a point. It's still an ad for Zelda not Switch, but Zelda is the game, and really the only game, at launch that sells the Switch (actually typed Wii U there, had to delete it).

But here's the reality of the math. Yes, there are only 13.5m Wii U sold - didn't know about that 6.5mil US # but sounds reasonable enough - how many copies of Zelda home console games do you think actually sell?

Zelda NES 6m on 60m consoles
Zelda 2 NES 4m
Zelda ALTtP SNES 4.6m on 45m consoles
Zelda OoT N64 7.6m on 30m consoles
Zelda MM N64 3.3m
Zelda WW GC 4.5m on 20m consoles
Zelda TP GC 1.3m
Wii 7.2m on 100m consoles
TP total 8.5m on 120m consoles
Zelda SS Wii 3.7m on 100m consoles

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda

The most copies any Zelda game has sold is 8.5 million on 120 million Gamecubes and Wiis combined. 13.5 million Wii U is probably more than enough for Zelda BotW. And in case you are thinking - well Switch is also a portable, so it will sell a lot more. No, it probably won't, the highest selling Zelda handheld is Phantom Hourglass, that sold 4.75m on 160 million DS install base. The handheld Zelda games typically don't sell as well as the home console games.

So even if you add the best selling home and handheld Zelda games thats still only about 13 million, the same as the Wii U install base.

Now, I do know some people will buy the Switch for Zelda on the go, and/or probably running better, either a better framerate or FPS or both, but there are probably very few people who want Zelda who don't already own a Wii U. Yes, the Wii U install base is putrid compared to almost every home console ever, but there are still more Wii U sold than copies of BotW that will probably sell. Even on a 100 million Wii install base TP and SS sold less than 8 million each.

Yes, this commercial will sell the Switch, but it may also remind Wii U owners Zelda is coming for them too.

Also, keep in mind, Nintneod has said 2 million Switch at launch. How many people who can't find a Switch at launch will wait, how many will just buy it on Wii U instead? Lets say Zelda can sell 8 million, how long do you think it will be before Nintendo has 8 million Switch in stores to sell? Fall? Holiday? How long are people going to wait?

@rjejr I don't think you have to worry about Zelda on Wii U outselling the Switch version. On Amazon at least (where the sales rankings are public), pre-orders for the Switch version are crushing those for the Wii U version. We're in a very similar situation we were at when Twilight Princess dual-released on the Wii and Gamecube, and like you yourself noticed, it sold almost seven times as many copies on the newer system despite only being a marginal upgrade.

If Zelda does sell 8 million, it doesn't have to do it in its first year. Twilight Princess didn't sell 8 million copies in its first year, despite being released on two platforms; it took almost TEN YEARS to reach that number. These titles sell slowly but continuously (like many Nintendo games).

The average consumer isn't going to pick up the system until the holiday anyway, so yeah they'll probably wait until then. Most average people have lives outside of video games xD

@TeslaChippie "Most average people have lives outside of video games xD"

I guess I don't see Zelda gamers as "average people'. I admit I could be wrong about that.

You did make a great point though about the sales which I did not take into account at all, which was very foolish of me. Switch has 3 versions of Zelda, regular and those 2 special bundles. Wii U has normal. I'll give Nitneod credit, as much as I think they purposefully screwed over Wii U owners w/ that move, it was a shrewd business decision. Nintendo might sell 4 million copies of Zelda Botw and 2 million of those people might not be able to get a Switch until April, May or June, but they'll already have their collectors versions so they'll wait rather than buy it on Wii U.

Yeah, there's no way Wii U version out sells the Switch version, not w/ those 2 special bundles out there. It's going to be HILARIOUS on here though reading comments from people who spent $80 or $100 on a game they can't find the console to buy and play it on. Nobody will cancel that or trade it in to get the Wii U version, even if it means waiting weeks or months to play.

@rjejr Not sure I'm with you on the 30 second video, we may have to agree to disagree. Public perception of the Wii U is nil, but people still remember what the Wii looked like (was just in my elderly neighbor's house last week and she's still got hers hooked up, and at least hubby will be watching the game) and what is shown in the ad is decidedly NOT Wii-like. Also people know what a 3DS looks like - that system is actually popular - and the Switch doesn't look like a 3DS either. Nintendo starts the ad out with the logo so people know it is from them and they end with it too in case they forgot in the past 30 seconds. Zelda Millennial starts out with it portable but after he cooks breakfast he very visibly docks it. I think it is extremely clear that in this instance it is a portable that can have TV out. I know Nintendo likes to say it is a console that can be taken portably on the go, but - that is not the message that ad is implying. They say, "Nintendo Switch, March 3rd" in there too along with Zelda:BotW. I think that implies it's a bundle but hey, anybody seeing this by Sunday won't be able to get a pre-order in anyway so what they think on that front doesn't matter. I think the ad is as clear as they can make it in 30 seconds where they are trying to push two concepts (Zelda, Switch is a new console). The reaction I have seen for it is overwhelminly positive even from the usual suspects of Nintendo bashers so they must be doing something right. But we won't know until the fourth quarter of course how it will go down. That I think is the big mistake here. You want to air in the second quarter. What if it's a blowout? People stop watching. Second quarter people get on social media during half time to talk about the best commercials so far and stuff trends heavily. But maybe the game will be close and stuff from the fourth quarter will still be relevant.

@TheLobster Well I think we agree on a lot. It is a good commercial, I just happen to think it's a better commercial for Zelda than Switch. The Switch to me is represented by the Joycone "click" but they never move in the ad. And as you said, Nintendo keeps saying "home" but the first time they show it, portable. It's almost like "Well, in the reveal Zelda TV was first so in this 1 portable is first."

And 4th qtr is late, but everybody is expecting a high scoring shootout close game, so eyeballs should be fine.

@rjejr It certainly is a GREAT commercial for Zelda. I think the ad is good enough that people will want to look up the 90 second one. People certainly love Zelda after all. I know people who haven't owned a Nintendo console in generations who are hyped for BotW. Nintendo may have the winner of the night for all we know!

I hope so. What was it a few years ago with the Seahawks and the Broncos where it was a total blowout and everyone got bored? I don't quite remember.

@TheLobster I think the Wix commercial has already been decided is the winner even though the game is still 24 hours away. Who needs Big Brother when we have Twitter, Facebook and Youtube self reporting.

http://adage.com/article/special-report-super-bowl/visible-measures-pre-super-bowl-chart-2-3-2017/307846/

Also, apparently it's the year of celebrities in commercials, which Nintneod doesn't have. They needed Kevin Costner, he played Robin Hood once, people might have made the leap.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/2017-super-bowl-ads-celebrity-spots-leak-before-sundays-game-968600/item/elizabeth-banks-steps-behind-camera-persil-proclean-971780

@rjejr Sheesh! Spoiler warning! I watch for the commercials, ya know!

@TheLobster Oops, sorry.

I'm sure they'll view differently when they pop up unexpectedly during the game.

@rjejr One of my favorite things to do during the game is go, "What the $%&# were they thinking with THAT ad?!" so I expect you are right!

@TheLobster "One of my favorite things to do during the game"

My favorite is drinking beer and yelling at the bad ref calls, so I'm counting on you to tell me about the commercials Monday morning in case I drink and yell too much and forget everything. It happens.

@rjejr It's a deal! I'm allergic to beer so I will be drinking lots of soda instead. But if the game gets too disappointing for the Falcons I might just find something to help me forget anyway!

@TheLobster You're in luck, lots of alcoholic soda out there these days, vanilla is the best, root beer is good, not a fan of the cherry. I can only have 2 at a time though, too sweet, so I usually have them only with dinner or desert.

Though I suppose if you're allergic to what's in beer alcoholic soda could also be a problem. What about wine? Don't drink it myself, gives me a headache, but a lot of people do. I won't encourage anyone to drink liquor, too dangerous.

@rjejr Yes, it's what's in the beer, lol. Alcoholic soda poses the same problem.

Wine and liquor I can do! I have a pretty good tolerance and I know how to stay safe. But we won't be at a big party with the booze a-flowin' this year, unusually.

@rjejr I will never question Nintendo again, the ONLY quarter people were paying attention was the fourth quarter. Genius. Though I liked the commercial with Christopher Walken and Justin Timberlake better (but it was targeted directly at me, the 30ish female).

@TheLobster "what was that about it not being a blowout? "

Oh ye of little faith. You can delete it here, but it's still in my inbox you know.

How my mostly sober party went in relation to this.

Commercial break between 3rd and 4th quarter I say out loud out to no one in particular - "Time for my Switch commercial, I've been waiting all game." 30 something year old guy asks me what a Switch is. I explain it's the new Nintendo console figuring he should know since he has a 7-8 year old son. My wife chimes in about it being their new console. About 15 minutes later the umnissable bright red screen comes on. Listen to music watching Zelda then here the man's voice at the end booming "THE LEGEND OF ZELDA BREATH OF THE WILD". It ends. I turn to my wife and we make eye contract. Before I say anything her as exact as I can remember them words were - "That was a Zelda commercial. That wasn't a Switch commercial." So says the mid-40 year old woman.

And since you're here and the target audience, what did yu think of the half time show? I think I'm over halftime shows taking way to long - as much as I like her "Just Dance" song since it released Lady Gaga is interchangeable w/ numerous other female singers to me. It just takes so long to set up and dismantle for 3 or 4 songs. I'm ready for a quick fireworks shows, maybe some "laser motown" or laser disco, 60, 70, 80, big band, todays' hit. Just something quick and fancy w/ the drones, all special effects and sizzle. Unless they get Barbara Streisand up there no 1 person act is going to hold my attention and make it worth the long halftime intermission. I'd be ok w/ college marching bands, they can play both walking onto and off of the field, no stage. Show the lasers over their heads, end w/ 3-5 minutes of fireworks.

Of course it doesn't matter, no game is ever going to be that great again, even if the wrong team won and the officiating was horrible.

Zelda commercial was good though.

@rjejr Deleted what?

I was all over Gaga's performance. Of course I knew all the songs. But it was very clever. Subtly political while still being a smashing concert. She certainly knows how to send a message. Probably one of the best of the past decade.

Yeah, it was a Zelda commercial. I made my 78yo dad sit through the longer one after the game and the first words out of his mouth were, "That one was better." I went, "Yeah, but I'm sure they didn't have 15mill to blow on a 90 second spot." The only 90 second ad I remember seeing was ghost Spuds MacKenzie and the only thing I got out of that one is that if you are seeing a ghost dog, you don't need another beer.

@TheLobster Yeah, I thought I might be too old for Gaga. Makes sense I guess, they already have all the guys watching the game, need something for the ladies to tune in for. I was bored though. We'll except for the THX 1138 football attire, that was pretty funny.

Have you seen the 4:49 trailer? Just watched it w/ my wife and kid, now that's a Switch ad. Or an ad for hipster hats, hard to tell.

@rjejr Hadn't seen it, went to watch it. It's a bit long, but that's definitely how you sell this thing. Obviously an amalgamation of several ads that are all part of a large campaign over there? I hope?

My favorite bit was around 1:20 where the message was clearly, "The Switch and MK8 Deluxe are better than sex." That's a high bar, I guess in a bit less than a month we'll see if it delivers!

Edit: Also don't think Nintendo has tried to outsell sex before so that might be a first for them. I'm sure Sony and Microsoft have gone that route.

@TheLobster ""The Switch and MK8 Deluxe are better than sex."

My wife burst out laughing at that part. My 14 year old still clueless son was all "Huh, what?"

It reminded me of the opening credits of season 6 episode 1 of The Sopranos. The newly married daughter is gyrating in front of the tv in her undergarments while her disinterested husband is trying to watch something.

And Nintendo is going all in on the "Anytime, anywhere with anyone" hipster ads, they might as well bundle a bottle of wine and a condom with the Switch. I'm actually wondering if the old folk at Nintnedo HQ in Japan even know just how double entendre the whole thing is and they aren't just being led around by their very western ad agency.

Though the Nintendo UK website surely knows.

https://store.nintendo.co.uk/nintendo-switch.list

What the hey, it is almost Valentin'es Day after all.

@rjejr They surely know in the US and UK judging by everything I've seen of 1-2 Switch. That Milk game, wow. They don't even try to hide it when they show it off. It's a pretty good strategy, actually. Nintendo is learning how to work the memes!

"Anytime, anywhere, with anyone?" D-e-a-d. I'm going to have to wash my hands whenever I touch a Switch, and not because it might have been used on the toilet! I wonder if we'll see a bump in kids named after Luigi in early December?

Nice to see Nintendo let its hair down for once! Heck, maybe Kimishima is right. If they keep this up, maybe they can sell 100 million on hilarity alone!

@TheLobster The milking game looks even worse when you watch it upside down. I'm expecting a lot of upside down Switch vids on Youtube.

45-1:00.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=gx_ciUva1bg

Though on the bright side, maybe nobody will buy it and Nintendo can focus on real games again.

@rjejr I know, I've seen you post that before and I've watched it that way. Pretty obscene.

Nintendo wouldn't be Nintendo if they weren't doing something weird. I mean sure, you got your Zeldas and your Marios, but then you gotta have your Wario Wares and your Mario Paints and even your Uniracers (look it up, weird story). Just has to be something quirky going on. In this case quirky also means suggestive, but I suppose that's not out of Wario's, er, woods, either. (That was a TRIPLE entendre!)

Anyway they've got at least one sale in me because I've bought a copy. I think I might be able to convince my 78yo dad to play a few of the minigames with me. Definitely NOT Milk, though!

@TheLobster "my 78yo dad"

Well you're all aboard the Switch train then. I was wondering why you became such a prolific writer of late, enthusiasm will do that to a person.

So, how many kids does your dad have? (I'm 20 years older than you but my dad is 10 years younger than yours, world is full of all kinds of people. )

@rjejr Just me! And my mom died nearly 20 years ago now and all my grandparents are gone, no aunts or uncles on either side so obviously no cousins, so it's just us, period.

Yeah, I'm sure you know I've been around since this site was WiiWareWorld, but I just go through spurts of posting when I'm interested enough in the articles to have an opinion.

@TheLobster Never heard of WiiWareWorld, I was here when it was VCreviews w/ Corbie way back when, they might be 2 of the websites that merged.

That's a small family, I hope you and your dad enjoy the Switch. My wife's mom also passed away about 25 years ago, I never met her, and her family is small. I grew up in a big Italian family I don't see that much anymore but there are still yearly parties w/ around 35 of us.

@rjejr Yeah, I think those are the two that merged.