In the first of what are sure to be multiple rumours before Nintendo lifts the lid on its 'NX' hardware in 2016, Taiwanese press site DigiTimes has made a range of claims around a potential release in July next year. Its general statements revolve around Foxconn handling much of the manufacturing - as it has with the Wii U and 3DS, albeit with some controversy - with Pegatron also taking some work. The timescales cite initial production this October, before final orders February / March 2015 and then production in May or June; all of that boils down to an apparent target for a July release next year and first year sales of 20 million units.
As we highlighted in our original article, there are some question marks and doubts around this timeline and supposed launch year sales target. It's all very tight for one thing, while that sales target is particularly high; that said, however, there are now multiple sources sharing their insight and belief that the NX was shown to third-parties at E3. The LA event is, ultimately, a trade event where plenty of meetings and presentations take place away from the public glare, so it's certainly conceivable that potential publishing and development third-parties would be given early access to prepare for potential titles on the platform.
As is often the case, then, we have a blend of solid rumours, questionable rumours and logical assumptions to work with. If the NX does arrive as early as next Summer, however, it would certainly be a good deal sooner than we've expected when talking about the platform in Nintendo Life HQ, and would shake up some of our thoughts on what's to come.
To go with the headline, then, what would the positives be of NX arriving as soon as Summer 2016? On a basic level it would give Nintendo a valuable opportunity to get back into the game in the console space, whatever the form of the hardware. The Wii U, despite improved momentum, is still well behind its contemporaries. As we've also suggested previously, the indications are that A-list projects and development studios are shifting away from Wii U to NX, and Satoru Iwata has recently stated that the company wants to avoid previous mistakes and hit the ground running.
The negatives? There are a few, ultimately, and these also serve as warnings that suggest that the rumours, despite some scope for realism, may be off with that release window. It simply seems too soon, in light of Nintendo's ongoing refusal to even explain what NX is until 2016. Though conventional approaches aren't always the best way, it would seem chaotic to announce hardware - even in January 2016 - and release it just six months later. That's very little time to build hype, establish a narrative and get the pre-orders flowing. On a practical level it would be a major marketing challenge, even assuming the logistics for manufacturing enough units to meet demand were in place.
Also assuming, based on thoughts we've had at Nintendo Life for a while, that this new platform may serve as a cross-platform home and portable system, the timing would be tricky for current hardware. The 3DS turns five in late February / March 2016, so that would be a reasonable innings, but a summer 2016 NX would put pressure on the Wii U and effectively finish it off. Yes, in those Satoru Iwata comments highlighted above he talks of keeping the Wii U and 3DS active beyond the launch of NX, but we don't think there's much doubt that retailers frustrated by stale Wii U stock will happily ditch it entirely for new hardware. The relative improvement in Wii U sales so far in 2015 would mean little on the retail scene if a shiny new device was demanding shelf space.
A Summer release would also bring the fate of The Legend of Zelda on Wii U back into focus. It's been made absolutely clear that it'll arrive on Wii U, but a Summer NX would surely secure its fate with the GameCube version of Twilight Princess - it wouldn't be surprising if two versions arrived in that case.
So, how likely is a summer 2016 release of NX? This writer will put his neck out and say it's not at all likely. Our instinct with NX has, for some time, been for a Holiday 2016 or Spring 2017 release - the former would be ideal in hitting the busiest shopping period of the year, and the latter is a fall-back if logistical challenges make the 2016 arrival too difficult. It seems likely that, whatever the case, Nintendo would want to ship its first few million units before 31st March 2017, in time to give its financial results a major boost.
What is clear, from the whispers and rumours, is that Nintendo has made notable progress - perhaps final - in completing its overall concept for the NX. Satoru Iwata's comments belie a sense of finality albeit secrecy, keen to hide the concept from rivals, while (as mentioned above) there are now multiple sources talking of third-parties and partners being shown the system in some form. Even forgetting the Summer 2016 rumours, it's certainly possible that early dev units are now kicking around in multiple studios.
One aspect of today's rumours that's intriguing - even applying the requisite dose of salt and accepting potential inaccuracies - is the talk of targeting 20 million sales in the first year, which would be beyond PS4 levels. On that note we've written before of our belief that Nintendo will potentially bring us a unified platform, a new pillar that could replace both Wii U and 3DS.
With the ageing 3DS and the toils of the Wii U it makes sense; it's a concept that may appeal to third-parties of all sizes, and also allows Nintendo to use its resources more effectively. Having internally unified its handheld and home console divisions a while ago, Nintendo's teams have nevertheless been stuck supporting two entirely different systems, with wildly varied architectures and capabilities. With one system and one overall infrastructure covering the home console and portable space Nintendo can focus its efforts and conceivably produce a more focused slate of games. If the 'NX' platform ultimately has separate portable and home console purchasing options under one banner, that 20 million target has a degree of - albeit optimistic - sanity.
This would play into the awkward position Nintendo finds itself in, with the Japanese market proving favourable to portable hardware yet Western markets making more money with home consoles; an integrated solution, hopefully at a tempting price, can help Nintendo tackle both markets efficiently. Of course, this is Nintendo we're talking about, so a curve ball that is nothing like that concept is just as likely.
It's clear that, in these summer months and stepping into the second half of the year, we're entering an exciting period with Nintendo. We have some fun games coming to Wii U and 3DS, of course, but it's the mystery behind NX, smartphone games and even that Quality of Life sleep sensor that will occupy minds.
2016 could be a huge year for Nintendo, and full of thrills for its fans.
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Nintendo basically killed the Wii U at this E3.
The only game currently slated for 2016 is "Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem" which looks....weird (to put it lightly).
And possibly a new Zelda game (which will probably launch at the end of 2016 alongside the superior NX version).
I don't buy it. If it launched in July '16 it would have a massive shortage of games as they haven't had enough time to develop for it.
Even if it was real then it will without a doubt suffer from the game drought at launch. There is no way third parties or even Nintendo themselves are able to come up with a massive launch library within this kind of a timeframe.
I'll buy it, even if I say now that I'll wait
I'm very worried about the NX, this will be a make or break system for Nintendo. I pray they don't go the gimmick route again...
2016 will definitely be an interesting year for Nintendo.
The more I think about it, if it's being shown to the public next years E3 (and Reggie's comments at this years E3 seem to indicate that that is the case), then I think it's almost certainly launching next year (Summer or Fall).
I'm excited , no idea why but I am, we know nothing for certain, it's Nintendo, expect literally anything and everything
In my opinion, the sooner the Wii U is replaced the better (for Nintendo.) But I highly doubt a July 2016 release. Maybe a November or December launch.
July 2016 is too soon for a release in my opinion. However, November 2016 is too late, as the NX would not have parity with the other systems when it comes to the big AAA multiplats simply because those games would have been out already on the other systems.
Mid-October release is best. It allows for the NX to be there for the launch dates of the big multiplats.
@Inkling "2016 will definitely be an interesting year for Nintendo."
Agreed. Hopefully it pans out for the best.
@Tops
I agree. I don't believe the NX will be released before Holiday 2016. It seems they're going to unveil it at E3 2016... so a summer 2016 release sounds ridiculous.
And before more people comment about Zelda Wii U getting moved to the NX, please don't.
There is a reason why the game's current name is Zelda WII U. The game is being made specifically for the Wii U's gamepad and hardware. Why on earth would they spend all the extra time to port the game to a brand new console?! The two versions of the game would compete with itself, thus driving their sales down!
Someone from Nintendo recently stated that they don't release games in the Summer because 60% of their sales come sept-dec. I doubt they'd release a new system just before a fallow period.
I believe the 'July 2016' remark is a mistake or at least a 'misquote': I think they're aiming to start have PRODUCTION ready for July '16... i.e., they want to have a large number of these boxes of (hopefully) joy sat in a warehouse and ready to ship around the world. I can quite easily see it being released in November or December 2016 because that's the way it's always been. However, they're talking about transformation an awful lot; No one knows anything at the moment, who are we to say they won't take a different strategy this time around, and release in the Summer?
July 2016 is too soon, as is this article just hours after 240 comments on the last NX article. And 100 on the other, and about 100 on the other.
Couldn't you save this 1 for tomorrow?
And while July is too soon, Dreamcast released 9/9/99 in the US, which is early Sept, so Ninteod could start taking delivery in July and start shipping to stores in Aug for an early Sept release.
Considering how well Ntinedo seems to learn from their the past mistakes I wouldn't put a 9/9/16 release date past them. Maybe they can release it w/ a Mario collection for his 31st anniversary.
I really don't think it'll be released next year, ESPECIALLY not as early as July.
March 2016 launch at ÂŁ350. Launch games include 'Origami Simulator NX' and Retro Studios' eagerly anticipated 'Donkey Kong in Space'.
We don't want new hardware.
We don't need new hardware.
Release games for the Wii U!
Well I'm not sure what Nintendo has planned that would make releasing an all new system in mid-late 2016 a smart move, as I see it, but you mostly all know by now what type of approach I think could make that kind of idea work:
https://inceptionalnews.wordpress.com/2015/06/26/heres-the-gist-of-my-idea-for-nintendos-nx/
Unless Nintendo really has something pretty different up its sleeve I'm not convinced just another new home console would be the right way to go, especially releasing it as early as mid-late 2016, but something along the lines of what I'm saying I could at least see working.
Just seems way too early.
"2016 could be a huge year for Nintendo, and full of thrills for its fans."
I read that as "trolls" for it's fans. Which makes sense as there will be more trolls than usual over the NeXt 12 months. The longer Ntinedo keeps NOT talking about this on a daily basis, the more trolls there will be.
Basing talking points off rumors, now, are we?
I think a July 2016 release is beyond foolhardy for a game console because it's freakin' July and that's when we want to be outside. Unless, of course, NX is indeed the oft-fantasized unified console half portable/half home console, which is then somehow encouraged to be taken outdoors.
But this statement about July 2016, if even true at all, likely indicates when the hardware needs to be ready for Nintendo, not necessarily for an actual release. November is the proper time to release a new console, though as @IceClimbers noted, October might be wiser for Nintendo so they can get a jump on the other guys heading into the holiday season.
One thing that's almost certain, is that 2017 will be way too late, as by that time, the PS4 and XBO will be at their absolute strongest, and Nintendo will just look like a pathetic mid-generation stopgap to be ignored--like the Jaguar and 3DO well before it, and the risky early release of the ill-fated Dreamcast. Granted, that only hit one year "too early," but still with ample enough time for serious damage to be done.
2016 is probably too soon in general. Forget July. Reggie recently stated that they don't typically release software in the summer because people are "in the mood to buy" during the fall/holiday season. I am QUITE sure they will follow that same logic with their home console hardware since it seems quite likely that's what NX is. I also wouldn't doubt that Nintendo plans to support Wii U heavily next holiday season as well with Zelda and other unannounced titles. I would pin Spring 2017 as a maybe, but I'd feel safer betting on holiday 2017.
@Quorthon - "because it's freakin' July and that's when we want to be outside."
You all ready for the 24 hour Wii U Spaltfest on the 4th of July?
@DarthNocturnal
Nintendo also said Twilight Princess would be on GameCube. That didn't stop it from being better off as a Wii launch title.
And I highly doubt the NX will utilize the GamePad--at least in any serious manner. That device has been nothing but a set-back for them and the Wii U, and yes, I'm aware that a micro-percentage of Wii U fanboys super totally love it for some reason. But the reality is that it's damaged the console and their image. Better to drop it like a Virtual Boy.
@rjejr
Nah. I still haven't picked it up. Or Witcher 3. And that comes first.
@BLPs - You've done a good job marketing for JD, maybe they'll send you a barrel to tap.
It's too early to start a new console generation, but too late to add a new pillar. Nintendo needs to learn from Sega how NOT to time things.
No no no no no. I am not buying it that Nintendo will reveal and then release the NX within the same year.
Third party publishers/developers need more than a mere year to get their development teams into a position where they got their heads around the new hardware and are able to port the latest releases.
Bethesda outright said that they would need no less than 2 years in order to even bother porting games to any new platform, and I would imagine this is the same for all big publishers. And Nintendo cannot afford to be in that position of having no big third party games at launch, no matter what the first party line up is.
I also disagree that the NX will be a hybrid. I just can't see how Nintendo can make a console that is both something you can take around and has a base that turns it into a home console, AND still manage to produce it on the cheap and sell it at an affordable price while also having specs that come in line with the PS4. Anything less than current generation specs and the third party companies won't touch it.
Thing is, remember the Wii drought from 2010-2012? Support suddenly declined after the Wii stopped being popular and even the first party offerings were few to count. I wonder if Nintendo is going to avoid repeating a looooong Wii U drought for the wait for NX. There certainly was enough software revealed at E3 to bring the gap between now and next year...
I hope it's all true. The timing and the success... To sell like that it would have to be something truly brilliant
What if it's a projection device for holographic 3D games? Or glasses that shoot images directly into your pupils!?
Even the announcement of the NX felt really soon to me, as if it was pushed sooner than expected due to poor Wii U performance. I'm certain the NX will kill the Wii U (if it's even a home console, or a hybrid), so I would like for it to not come too soon.
Ugh. First a crappy story based on some fake blog obsessed with "Diddy Kong Racing 2" and now this? I know there's a software drought, but how about some interesting retro articlest?
@FragRed
Well, the public reveal of the Xbox One, Playstation 4, and 3DS, all occurred within a year of their launch. The 3DS only didn't occur the same year because it came out in March after. But within a year of it's E3 reveal.
Both the XBO and PS4 were publicly revealed in early 2013, and both launched later in 2013.
But what if NX is effectively rebranding the WII U with a hybrid portable that can act as a gamepad that you buy seperately? Then plenty of games will be available, but the NX's price can dip down to 149 which is a price which will move a lot of units, and that price would be profitable without the gamepad.
If all these rumours are true, I think it points to something more along the lines of Ouya. We've had rumours about it emulating android and interacting with the amazon android marketplace. That could be the third party support Nintendo are talking about there. Thousands of games ready to go on day 1. The 20 million units is for production in the first year, not necessarily sales, and while it does seem ridiculously optimistic for a traditional console, tablets and phones sell far, far, far bigger numbers each year. Apple sold over 71 million iPads in 2013. It also fits with the TV box and handheld devices working as one that's been rumoured for a long time now.
I'd be anticipating a holiday 2016 launch, but I'd also been anticipating a proper console/handheld system. Having 18 months between announcement and release is too big of a window. You don't need that time to build up hype. Apple has shown you can announce and launch in a very short time period and be a success. Consoles tend to launch at holiday because it's when people make 'big' purchases, but if this is going for the cheap, impulse buy sort of range, then there's no need to wait for a holiday launch. This might all be rubbish, but I don't think there's anything far-fetched about today's rumours.
If this is to be both announced and released by fall of next year (and that is a big if) then my suspicion is that it is not a replacement for either 3DS or Wii U but something else entirely. Think side project like Steam Box or Oculus Rift (yes, the comments made of VR not being ready for prime-time could have been an attempt to direct our focus away from what they are really doing)...
I bought a Wii U day one and while I regret buying it too soon, I don't mind another console coming out next year (probably because I won't buy it unless there's a big hype game in 2016 for it). I especially don't mind if it's a handheld/home console hybrid because that would solve all of the drought both the 3DS and Wii U have seen, since Japanese third parties are far more prominent on the handheld side.
@awesome0 Yeah, that's kinda what I'm suggesting it could be too.
If it truly is released next year, then its not going to be something able to compete with the PS4 and Xbox. I truly hope it isn't a handheld/home console hybrid - just my opinion, but I like my handhelds consoles to be portable, like the GBA SP. Even the 3DS family has problems with that, and a hybrid would probably be even bigger! Keep these things separate, and get more development teams on board to avoid these gaming droughts!
I'm currently expecting the NX to be a Wii U level powered portable with some form of play on your TV. Well that's my super plain " realistic " guess
About supporting Wii U post NX launch - did anyone watch E3? The launch hasn't happened yet and Wii U is looking sickly for releases. I'm gonna say that support is nothing to hype over
@FragRed Cost for that type of setup would be expensive and a barrier to customer entry that's why I don't think its that either.
The only Wii U games confirmed for next year are... Zelda and SMTxFE. Same time last year we had a bunch of games announced for this year, including Star Fox, but this E3? Nada!
It doesn't look good for Wii U
I don't know what to think of the "new pillar" talk, but there is no way they would have a summer launch.
NX for release on 2016 is a ridiculous idea. They are going to reveal it on the next E3 in June and there's actually people seriously considering a release the month after that? Come on, let's keep it real. NX is going to be a middle-late 2017 thing, little doubt in my mind about that.
I'll pick it up, whatever it is. I think it'll release holiday 2016 at the earliest.
What a mess Nintendo has on their hands; uncertainty, speculation, doubt all are front and center when people discuss Nintendo now.
Too early, I say the year after that.
Anyone got a Link (heh) to where Nintendo have stated Zelda is for NX? Anyone? No? Oh and pleeeeeeeease can people explain to me why they are bringing Twilight Princess up? Do people really think they will throw out the last great Wii U game on NX too? Then why wasn't Skyward Sword a Wii U game? Funny how that's never brought up. It would've been a snap, but no Skyward Sword started development well into the Wii's life, was announced as a Wii exclusive and then, believe it or not, IT WAS A FREAKIN' WII GAME!!!!! No cover ups, no lies, no smoke and mirrors- nothing. Same thing will happen with Zelda U, just simply add a U after the Wiis to my description of SS's development cycle.
They are going to show the game later this year, as they have already said unlike these people bringing up NX. What do you think will happen honestly? In the Zelda U Direct in 4 months time they just casually say "oh and it's now an NX game". Or they say it's a Wii U game, which it is, then sometime next year just say "oh shoot forgot to mention this in that reveal Direct last year but this will be releasing in a few months on the NX as well". Nintendo can be stupid, may I say even out of touch, but they're not liars, they're not Warner Bros. They say it's a Wii U game so it's a Wii U game.
Oh and to go back to Twilight Princess- The. GameCube. Had. Wind. Waker. Years before TP and the Wii, Nintendo know they can skip Metroid (done it before on N64) and a couple of other series, but they know each console needs its own Zelda game, they won't then stab all us Wii U owners in the back, especially after they have said time, after time, after time that it is a Wii U game only. All you Wii U-less people begging for this to happen and throwing your eggs in the NX basket should stop, you're well off the mark with this one and nothing I've read has convinced me that this new Zelda will be playable on NX, at the very least not at launch.
It's funny how Iwata said they will keep supporting Wii U and 3DS after NX launches. That's as good as saying NX will replace both in my book, though I still think 5 years is too early to replace the best-selling 3DS.
To be fair, I love my Vita TV and was quite entertained by those GBA VC games on Wii U. Granted, I'm a home console person, so a hybrid console would mean good news to me.
Not to sound over dramatic here but once Wooly World and Mario Maker come out in NA should I expect any new Wii U games? Zelda is still a maybe based on the little i've seen of it and Star Fox to me isn't a definite purchase either.
@TheLastLugia
Everyone listen up: this dude has spoken! That's all you need to know.
Thanks be to those in the know. Thread may be closed now.
Peace freakin' out!
@k8sMum were you being sarcastic? God the least I'd expect after making an account today is for my opinion on matters to be taken seriously, I do know what I'm talking about, though you're obviously right I don't have inside info like anyone does here, but my comment was no more self-assuming or pretentious than any of the ones I've seen that have said that Zelda U is most definitely Zelda NX as well. I presented quite a few facts as well, perhaps you read them over and respond a bit more maturely? What is your opinion on the matter as you haven't even said that.
I love my Gamepad !
No,its too soon. 2017 NX should come out
Maybe someone mentioned this but I highly doubt July. Historically Nintendo consoles launch in November and their handhelds in March/April
DEFINITELY summer 2016. There's no way Nintendo is going to drag the WiiU's lifespan out by another year. I mean, they are already scraping the bottom of the barrel with the (awful, unoriginal) WiiU games introduced in this years E3!!! The WiiU is done, lets just face it... so 2017 is too far away for the NX release
@T1m
I've made this point, not on this site, but on others. Most of Nintendo's consoles have been released in the Fall.
I'll put internet money on this: NX WILL NOT BE RELEASED NEXT YEAR. It may be REVEALED next year, possibly about this time, but it's not going to be released.
UNLESS: The NX is a standalone console, that works with the Wii U to increase it's capabilities.
This kind of display has been around for years:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_display
I'm guessing Nintendo is going to be using this sort of technology on it's controller for the NX (Which will probably go by a different name, by the time it's released).
I just got my Wii U a year ago, so I hope there are still a couple unannounced surprises left. In any case, this system has been an absolute gem by my standards, even if it does die young.
@MightyKrypto This E3 only showed off games that are coming very soon, so I doubt that's all the Wii U have for 2016. Plus it completely stupid to waste money releasing something in the Summer when they could have made a bigger profit by releasing it in the Winter. Also it's one month after E3. Unless Nintendo is going to make the NX an rush ungodly mess I doubt it will ever release in 2016 July.
@Chaoz Since it's all first party games, and most of these games don't even have a release date yet, it's probably all the games we're going to get till (and during) 2016.
Nintendo released a lot of consoles during the summer (GB, GBA, NES, ...) so a summer release makes perfect sense to me.
@TheLastLugia
A bit snarky, perhaps. I'd read your other posts and you come across a wee bit pompous, imho. That's jmho, of course.
I didn't see a lot of facts in your post, unless opinions automatically count as facts now. You seem to trust what nintendo says. I think they are saying anything they feel is needed to keep things from imploding. Neither of us is right nor wrong: it's just what we think.
As to the mature remark: I am far too old to need to be mature. Done my time being that.
Peace, no snark.
Is Nintendo ready to support over three devices? I thought the Quality of Life thing was launching in the first half of 2016.
I was originally against Nintendo launching the NX in 2016 but at this point, I wouldn't care. E3 was pretty embarrassing--for me, the only Wii U must buy was Mario Maker with Amiibo Festival being a giant slap in the face.
Have a new 3D Mario, a new Metroid, a new Animal Crossing, possibly a new IP, and I think @Quorthon mentioned a Smash U "ultimate edition" and the NX is an easy must buy. In fact, it'd already be one for Animal Crossing.
The summer release date is a bit strange but at this point, it's early 2017 at latest.
@MightyKrypto
Gameboy, Gameboy Advance and Virtual boy aren't consoles.
SNES and the Japanese-only colour TV series, are the only CONSOLES not released (in North America) in the late summer, Mid-August...
RUMOUR!!! not gonna happen. right?
@briwipdx there is usually some truth to rumours, but more often than not they aren't accurate prophecies.
@Williaint so handhelds aren't consoles??? lol
@MightyKrypto to quote you: "Nintendo released a lot of consoles during the summer (GB, GBA, NES, ...) so a summer release makes perfect sense to me."
@Williaint yes, so? they ARE consoles, and they were released in the summer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_video_game_console_releases_in_North_America
Make games for the next Nintendo console, for crying out loud! It needs to launch with several high-quality (i.e 5-10) Nintendo-made games, and the same again, even more, games from other developers. There needs to be a commitment from the big development studios, and a proper online service, with a brilliant download store, full of many original Nintendo games as well as all their classic systems. They probably can't do this for 2016, but they need to get to work, so they can deliver such a system. Most importantly, it must be fun, and of course, abandon the 'Wii' name. It is not suitable for a console that is a clean break.
The rumours seem off, since time will be needed to build hype for the NX. Still, I can't wait to find out what the NX is.
The Wii U is never going to make significant money (if any) from a pathetic 10m sales. If you break down and compare Nintendo financial report with previous years it points to the Wii U in the negative (some analysts did the breakdown to prove Nintendo profits are 3DS reliant. The article made sense to me, but probably wouldn't to those with Nintendo glasses).
What is the point of keeping a console on life support to please a few fanboys while your profits are a fraction of what they were? You can give it all the games in the world but they ain't going sell blockbuster on such a small userbase.
MS ditched the Xbox after four years because it was not profitable, or more to the point not competitive, knowing MS.
This is business. Not a video game. A business aim is to make as much money as possible and cut off dead weight. A console selling worse than the Dreamcast is dead weight.
Every month with it is a month further away from returning to POSSIBLE major success.
Around September next year is my bet. July is the slow time.
I seriously hope this is some kind of integrated portable and home console with wii u and 3ds backwards compatibility. There are so many awesome 3ds games, but I simply am not comfortable with a handheld. The thought of playing them on the tv sounds just perfect to me. I enjoy my gb and gba games on my gamecube gameboy player so something similar with current technology would really give me the best of both worlds while also allowing nintendo to have new audiences since people could play both portable and home games however they please. C'mon nintendo, we have faith in you still to turn things around.
Bullpoopy. Nintendo would NEVER release a new platform in the summer. How old do they think I am!? ......insulting..........
This will be November/December. Nuff said!
4th quarter
2017. Period. Smartin' up.
There's no way it would launch in July...however Nintendo has released a handful of consoles in the summer months (mainly handhelds like the Original GB and Original GBA), but when looking at Japan....and console releases things get interesting. The Famicom, N64, and,.......welp the Virtual Boy. In the West it's just the SNES and...well, again the Virtual Boy!
So it has happened..and I'm not saying it couldn't come out summer, but I really...REALLY doubt it!
@oats-81 'Bullpoopy. Nintendo would NEVER release a new platform in the summer. How old do they think I am!? ......insulting..........'
Bullpoopy?! lol i'm guessing you're like 6 or 7?
I still think a holiday 2016 launch is where it's at, but these rumors got me thinking ... July or summer in general is tradtionally rather barren as far as new major releases go. It's also the time of the year when the hype trains for the rest of the year are getting readied and prepared for boarding, thanks to E3 and also Gamescom.
Assuming all the logistics would work out for a summer release, and Nintendo would be brazen enough to try a summer launch, they could not only do so unopposed as far as their software goes, but they could also capitalize on any hype they build at E3 and Gamescom without much delay.
I think I would be interested to see how such an approach would play out in the end. It would be quite unique to see something entirely new being shown off, only to be sold mere months (assuming they put it post-Gamescom, which would be smart) or even weeks later. In other words people might still be excited and emotional about it, without much time to rationalize the hype away.
Depending on the stuff they have to show, and the hype they can thus generate, this could indeed work out for them. On an even more emotional level, it would reinforce the feeling of something "fresh" happening, something that is unfamiliar but exciting ....
Still, I doubt it ^^
Basically they shot dead my investment in my wii u. They say they will make games for wii u, but they wont. The wii u i believe is a great system, its so sad to see them old yellar it.
@k8sMum I re-read what I wrote and I will give you this one, I probably did deserve to be put in my place but I'll stand by what I said. The facts I pointed out were mainly related to Nintendo never fooling, lying or mis-leading people in the past like they would be if Zelda launched on NX. Facts (I'm sounding like Rafa Benitez lol) every home console has had a unique Zelda, Nintendo have stated every time they've been asked since the delay that it is still a Wii U game, both Reggie and Miyamoto have said that they will be showing footage of the game soon, with the latter implying it could be as soon as this year, so way before the NX is even announced, the TP is BS because the GameCube had Wind Waker, and Nintendo have never lied to this degree. Again I'll try to say it with as less snark as possible but I am very, very confident looking at that that I will be proved right, so I feel entitled to be a bit pompous, especially considering how many times I've seen people shot down who share the same opinion as I, I just hate these unfounded comparisons that don't add up, mainly just because they don't have a Wii U. Only one way to end this I suppose:
"I am talking about FACTS. Things the people can see every. Single. Week. Thank you"~ Rafa Benitez.
As others have said, I don't see the NX arriving before the 2016 holiday season. I certainly won't be buying day one, since I've barely had my Wii U a year. Don't see how they'd have time to develop a decent line-up of games at launch. It would be quite risky, I would think, to repeat the mistake of a weak opening line-up (unless they also announce a few more to arrive not too shortly after launch).
If it is out in 2016 (which I'd be willing to bet large sums of money against that), then I likely won't buy it. It's just too soon.
When has there EVER been precedent for announcing and RELEASING a new console within a 6 month span? It doesn't give developers time to make any games unless they were warned years ahead of time (which all signs point to no if Nintendo was just now showing it off at E3), and it doesn't give consumers enough time to learn about the product and acquire the funds for a large purchase. Consoles typically are not impulse buys. A lot of thought goes into it and the less time there is, the less thought a person can have to reach their decision.
Must be the Nintendo Phone.
Not really.
@MightyKrypto Yes you're correct,but they weren't in the situation they are now when they released those consoles.
I'm willing to bet that Zelda Wii U will be moved to the NX. Releasing two versions is crazy if they're hoping to get people to jump to the NX.The Wii U is dead! Ditch it Nintendo and move on!
Wouldn't surprise me if they hold an event in December this year for it to get the ball rolling. And before people start saying that would be a disaster as people are spending money for xmas this year... Star Wars xmas in 77 was a disaster for luasfilm and they basically sold kids cardboard pictures with the promise they toys would be out soon. Business wise it turned out to be a strange marketing success.
If the NX is truly the true successor of the Wii U, I can't imagine it being released before latter in 2017.
First, Nintendo needs the Wii U to last long enough to profit from the hardware. Some hardware profits are going to be necessary to counteract the next generation's price tags.
Second, the Wii U lineup is far from dead. Note how Nintendo has the habit of hiding big releases prior to their release. On the Wii, games like New Super Mario Bros Wii, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Nintendo Land, NSMBU, Super Mario 3D World, and Captain Toad were all unveiled just a short while before release. So even though Nintendo's holiday lineup is most of what they've announced, I sincerely believe they have more on the way. And a holiday lineup with Star Fox, Super Mario Maker, Yoshi's Woolly World, Fatal Frame, and Xenoblade Chronicles X along with some notable 3rd party titles is hardly abysmal.
Nintendo is likely to make more software for existing hardware because software tends to make more of a profit. That was one of the reasons the GameCube didn't bankrupt Nintendo; the high number of games sold per console. Many of Nintendo's developers have only released one game on the Wii U at most thus far. So even if we ignore known quantities like Zelda U, Amiibo Festival, Mario's Tennis and Devil's Third, we have many likelihoods.
EAD Kyoto could likely be working on a second 3D Mario game for Wii U, be it 3D World 2 or whatever else. Yoshi Sakamoto is probably doing something WarioWare or Rhythm Heaven related with SPD, possibly using the GamePad to create the ultimate combined Rhythm Heaven experience. ND Cube is going to make Mario Party 11 for the Wii U, simply because that's what they do.Retro confirmed that a new Wii U game was in development even before Tropical Freeze was finished. HAL is probably going to do a proper Kirby platformer along the lines of Return to Dream Land and Triple Deluxe.
Nintendo also needs to prepare their next launch so that both their next handheld and console, or the combined whole, see a healthy number of releases from them. This implies a certain required period of time for games like Mario kart 9 or whatnot to be made. And I don't think MK9 would be ready by 2016.
I honestly don't see what else Nintendo has beyond this year and 2016 besides Star Fox, Zelda and Xenoblade. The Wii U has only seen major entries in the Mario, Donkey Kong, Pikmin, Kirby, Wii series, and Yoshi franchise with the aforementioned three other major franchise titles coming. It may not be right to release anything more for Pokemon, Metroid, or F-Zero with a new system around the corner.
@Toadthefox They should have ditched the Gamepad after year 1 like Microsoft did with Kinect on Xbox One.
I think this device is QOL not NX.
And people will still expect it to cost less than $300. I swear people want Nintendo to go bankrupt. Even if they have that enormous and fabled war chest, it won't last forever.
@DarthNocturnal
It's funny really, Quorthon only pays attention to things he can insult people on. When someone has a valid point he ignores or twists around
#quortho sux
Knock it off -Lz
I think this device is QOL not NX. Iwata's presentation in October 2014 shows a 2016 release.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/141030/05.html
Based on this quote from Iwata himself, obviously it's not being released next year: http://nintendoeverything.com/iwatas-full-comments-on-wii-u-and-3ds-launches-nx-will-be-offered-through-a-nintendo-like-solution/
"That is why I have been repeatedly saying that the next news on NX will not be announced during 2015 but will be announced in 2016." announced next year--not released. He literally goes on to say in the next sentence that he keeps mentioning the NX: "since NX has news value." That's it.
My prediction! The NX is actually a smart phone that is capable of Wii U graphics that is in 3D. Nintendo is still going to support both 3DS and Wii U but this is their answer to Iphone. Its their NX move
Buhahahahahaha I love it when i'm getting right. I told you all the WII U wouldn't last that much longer. I said before already 2016 will be the year for the information in regard of the new systema and maybe same year it would see a release or early 2017. Sorry bout it..... I guess you shouldn't get any games for it anymore. Soon you will be forced to move to the new system. Sorry bout it..... NO! I warned you before. Glad I sold mine
@Alucard83 So you haven't been playing Splatoon? OMG! Your loss! Anyhoo it is abundantly obvious what the NX is. With PS4 being the number one console, this is a partnership between a Nintendo console and an Xbox!
(OK....I really have no idea what it is lol.)
November 20, 2016
I've been calling this date since 11-18-12.
@Jay1984 you're excited because the TRUE NEXT GEN is just around the corner.
My body and soul are all prepared
@Sylveon I wouldn´t be so naive as to believe everything miyamoto, iwata or fils-aime say, they contradict themselves far too much. Remember when Iwata said that Nintendo wouldn´t release anything on mobile phones or that they would never go DLC because all of their products are 100% complete? Yeah, the man just isn´t reliable.
Bottom line, I hope the NX releases next year, because, let´s be frank here, the wii u is doing terrible on sales, thay are depending far too much on the 3DS to stay afloat.
A 4 year lifespan for the wii U makes sense, as does unifying the portable space with its console brothers. If they can make a slightly more powerful thing than the wii U but allow it to be portable, 1 thing goes tv and travel the nintendo way simultaneously.
So, november 2016 seems like a great time. Having stuff ready in july means being able to launch worldwide in the fall.
i would say november-december 2016.
A summer 2017 launch is plausible. Give them time to iron out teething problems in the lead-up to holiday 2017 then release some big hitting game titles in time for Black Friday in the US.
But summer 2016, I think Nintendo will struggle to give NX a strong launch lineup. Since they identified both Wii U and 3DS's poor launch as a problem they want to avoid, I can't see them rushing it just for the sake of cashflow.
It may be the specs are pretty much locked in and that they plan to manufacture a large stockpile? Or could be something daft like them using commodity / off-the-shelf components, but anticipating that Samsung or Apple are going to be using the same components later in 2016 for a large run of phones/TV's, at which point there'll be constricted supply.
Could also be Nintendo asked their suppliers the hypothetical "What's the quickest turn-around time if we were to give you these specs, and you were to get started asap?" If so, I'd suspect Nintendo are unlikely ready to give the go ahead quite yet. So the timing intervals are probably accurate, but not the start date (and so not the subsequent implied release date either)
Even if the NX is absolutely amazing I still won't be getting it day one since the next console on my to-get list is definitely going to be the Xbox One. I will get it eventually though it will likely be a few years into its lifespan, which is the same thing I did for the Wii U.
Nintendo is actually already building the hype for this system by just keeping it secret. There's so many people starting rumors about it, and that's all just helping nintendo to get people wondering. I can see them releasing it soon, as the games for Wii U don't seem to be big, that means that they've probably been working on games for the NX's launch...big games...and they've stated before that the next Mario Adventure will be on their next console. Maybe this console will be good and maybe it won't...this is probably what will come down to what will happen to nintendo. I really hope the sales of this console are great for them, and brings them back into competition mode, but only time will tell, and they need to really learn from their past mistakes.
I always wait a year or two before buying a console anyway, in order to have a well developed software library. I still have so many WiiU games i need to play before i cash out for the NX
July release in 2016, would be a bit silly in my eyes as most people are in holiday/festivals/sunshine mode, but Ninty have done strange things over the years so I wouldn't put it past them.
I do remember Iwata (or one of the big wigs) talking about Apple's OS last year and how he envys it in how streamlined it is etc. Take that with Amazon market place rumour and android rumour and the NX could be a new system yes, but with Nintendo's own mulity platform OS that works perfectly on the WiiU, 3DS, phones and pc's along with this new '3rd pillar' NX so everyone can ease into Nintendo's OS and eventually move over to the NX between July'16 and July'17.
They did say that with the mobile games they are working on with DeNA could be ways to push people to the NX or wiiu/3ds ie Nintendo products.
So then that makes me think the NX is gonna be an all digital system, no discs, with full Nintendo network username accounts working across everything like the PS3 PS4 VITA and PC.
Kinda like the OUYA with a standard controller but much better thought out and full backwards compatibility with WiiU (with gamepad compatibility) Wii (with a port for the little sensor you already have), GameCube, n64, snes, nes, gb/c/a, 3ds and ds. So all the back cat download only. Since everyone and their mother can run emulators on android I think Ninty will make one emulator for each older system so every older game runs perfectly with no hiccups. I can see that happening.
Then with a full NX game launch of say 8 1st party games and as many as possible 3rd party games too, download only. I know a lot of people hate download only, but I guess we are a very small minority now. Money is in download. Cheaper downloads.
But this system will HAVE to come with at least 1TB of internal storage from the get go. I can see them launching something like this for €199 since there would be no moving parts like disc in it etc.
Just a thought.
I love my physical media to bits as much as the next guy on here. But Ninty have one chance here and I think that's what's gonna get people to buy. Download only but Ninty OS like Android or iOS which will be very hard to hack. And they could start to release newer faster versions of a NX every 2 years.
Also, most people on here seem to forget that Ninty lie ALL THE TIME. Just remember that when they deny something then a year later it's true.
Anyway, that's my contribution, don't distroy me please. Just my thoughts.
Also, Zelda U will also be Zelda NX in 2 years time ;p
Maybe the NX will be able to continue to play both Wii U and 3DS games? That's maybe what Iwata means why they won't stop supporting the older consoles. The older Install bases continue getting some games. But for those who upgrades, they get all + the newer NX games with the major AAA titles like Metroid, F-Zero etc. Why should Nintendo put efforts for developing great titles for the dying consoles? And for the Nintendo fans who never got convinced to buy a Wii U, can then buy and play those few great Wii U titles on their NX =) The only thing what tempts me of the Wii U is the new Xenoblade.
Wii U / NX Predictions:
2016: Limping towards holiday release for Zelda
2017: Wii U dead in the water, holiday release for NX
@readyletsgo Nintendo going all digital is highly unlikely. They were the one keeping to SD instead of HD, because according to them the market penetration of HD wasn't big enough. That same argument can be used to broadband internet penetration, especially in lower developed countries. Also Microsoft considered releasing Xbox One without optical drive until late 2013, but decided against it to "accomodate bandwidth and game size".
July could be great. E3 hype is still alive and there is time to update system to fix all those bugs etc. before holiday sales.
I personally have more money to buy consoles in summer when there is not that much new multiplatform game releases.
@Snader yes I totally hear and understand that argument. But the main areas of sales are eupore, America and Japan. Google play and Apple store are mainly Europe America and to a lesser extent Japan I think(?). It's where the money is. I'm in Ireland, most of our broadband is rubbish at the moment except for Dublin and cork but there is an upgrade coming for us so speeds will be faster. I could say the same for the rest of Europe and America. MS did it and went back on it. I would think Ninty would have worked out a new system for this. Download is where the money is €1 games make millions every month. DeNA are looking to make €25 mill a month. Everything to me just points to download only. Sony and MS next system will be download only in years to come I'm sure of it. But Ninty have a chance to get into this new market in the home/handheld market before the other two do.
I feel it in my waters.
@Quorthon I am no fanboy, I play on Sony and on my PC quite often and I LOVE the gamepad, so be careful labeling people according to your own ASSUMPTION. The gamepad was a terrific idea and honestly is more touch sensitive than my iPad 4. The only pitfall is that it lacks multitouch. Other than that, it has made gaming better in general. This coming from a pretty heavy PC gaming with a powerful gaming PC. Just because someone likes something, it does not mean they are a fanboy.
I must admit, the Wii U hasn't been as mind blowing as it should have been. I will always love it, of course, it has some wicked games, but NOTHING comes close to the 3DS for me. Hands down my favorite console this generation.
My optimistic side says: 'Why do you think there've been so many game droughts? - Because Nintendo wrote the Wii U off years ago but are wise enough to know that dropping it commercially would be company suicide. - and that they shifted their resources to the NX 2 or maybe even 3 years ago'
Regardless, I think Nintendo are in for a tough ride. I may not be a day 1 backer of NX - unless it's a DS successor too - but I will be along for the ride.
@skwaark That's exactly what happened with the Wii and that's exactly what will happen again...cause they never learn! This end of console cycle also hurts Zelda a lot more than people think, imo.
Not gonna happen.
@HanSolo57 Releasing a console on a Sunday would be company suicide.
@Grumblevolcano you know that the following Nintendo consoles were released on a Sunday; N64, GameCube, Wii and Wii U. Guess that didn't kill them. Maybe this time will be different on November 20, 2016.
If it does come out in 2016, I could ONLY foresee it being in Q3. Summer is ridiculous. I know Nintendo has been shot down for marketing, but that's just ludicrous. I am curious, though, to see what Nintendo brings to the table.
I say bring on NX next year. They've pretty much killed the Wii U off, looking at their E3 this year. I just hope NX has super powerful hardware and is somehow backwards compatible with both 3DS & Wii U games. Like I mentioned in an earlier NX article, have an optional Gamepad 2.0 accessory that is capable of working separate from the console so you can play NX games on the go, launch it with the upcoming Zelda, a 3D Mario, and maybe an actually Animal Crossing game like we should have had on Wii U instead of lame Amiibo Festival, and that'd honestly be a pretty solid launch lineup and I'd be inclined to purchase it Day 1.
@HanSolo57 I was going off EU dates as I live in the UK, those consoles you mentioned all released on a Friday.
Sorry. Sunday releases in the states.
History shows a track record of a hardware reveal at E3 a year before release and then in fall. The exception was Super Nintendo released in August to NA region.
All I know is, whenever the NX launches, I'm buying it.
I don't buy it. July 2016 is way too soon for a console launch and probably one of the worst times of the year to launch it, and 20 million sales is far too optimistic.
@garthvader
The GamePad has not made gaming better, and this can be said quite objectively.
Again, what did it do to make Mario Kart better?
What did it do to make Pikmin better?
What did it do to make New Super Mario Bros better?
The vast majority of reports on Star Fox Zero certainly do not sound better in any regard.
What did the GamePad do to make Smash Bros better?
Pikmin is generally better played with a Wii Remote and Nunchuck. Mario U, Mario Kart, Smash Bros? They all play exactly the same. If the Wii U GamePad truly made things better, why don't we see that? Why hasn't it's "big improvements" seen wider industry acceptance?
For that matter, by all means, explain how it's made gaming better. How has the GamePad made RPG's better? How did it make Zelda truly better? Even Nintendo fans tend to be critical of Nintendo Land for being a largely lackluster affair.
Look, playing games elsewhere doesn't mean you don't harbor fanboy tendencies. Apologetics about how the GamePad "made games better" both in the face of rampant failure to do so and the number of games that don't use it to any effect at all--while offering no examples smacks of fanboyism. Sorry to say. The GamePad has failed to live up to it's potential, is seen by most of the industry as a lame gimmick or a hassle, and frankly, many of the things it attempts as "game changers" are laughable. Is looking at your lap to view a map really better than just having it pop-up onscreen? Even if you like the concept, this is hardly a game changer or an improvement in any regard.
The GamePad didn't improve things or change anything. It just made some things more cumbersome. Rather than letting players look at a single screen to play their games, they were forced to awkwardly look at their lap for some of their gameplay.
So how did it change things? How has it improved our games and gaming? How did it revolutionize RPGs and FPSs and platformers? By all means, explain why Mario Kart 8, Donkey Kong County, Captain Toad, Splatoon, New Super Mario U, Pikmin 3, and Smash Bros could never work on any other system. Because if the GamePad is truly a game changer that made games better, then surely, these games could never be playable on any other system Or perhaps they could be, because if the GamePad really did make things better, then we'd be seeing it cloned for the PS4, XBO, and PCs.
If its not backwards compatible, then its a giant f you to Wii U owners. It would also throw away major recent games like MK8, Smash, and splatoon. Its gotta be BC if it launches in 2016 or 17, with some way to simulate the gamepad on a new controller.
It would also be odd to replace the 3DS so soon after the n3DS, and the major 3DS lineup announced for next year
(Dang am I late to the party!)I think a 2016 release is way too early,let alone the summer of that year.The NX will only just be unveiled at next year's E3.
Just to put it into perspective,the Wii U was announced in spring 2011 and was released in the fall of the following year.Same situation with the Wii(announced in 2005,released in the fall of 2006)
I believe the same will happen with the NX; the release date being in the fall of 2017 (at the earliest).The development will go on for at least another few months after the NX's announcement and about another half year for the production process.
Makes me wonder about that chip or whatever AMD is making,as well as SHARP's LCD screens they're making for Nintendo.Neither of these pieces of tech won't begin production till next year,which I think will coincide with NX's production.Just my thoughts anyway
July seems far, far too early for Nintendo to release NX. In July of 2016, the Wii U will have been out for less than four years. The Wii U was Nintendo's first attempt at an HD console, and they clearly had many issues with that. Three years to figure out how to actually make a game in HD on the Wii U with all it's quirks, three years to group together their handheld and home console division, and three years to then, along with all of that, develop games for NX so that there can be a steady release of games so that Nintendo doesn't have the same issues they had with Wii U is optimistic at best, and simply suicidal at worst. I don't even think Nintendo will be able to release it in 2016 at all. I think, as of now, that there will probably be a reveal at E3 of 2016 with Zelda releasing holiday 2016 so Nintendo can stress that, even though NX was revealed, they're still supporting Wii U, and then NX releasing in November of 2017 after another E3 in which they talk all about all their third party support and launch titles while also talking about one or two Wii U titles coming out that year.
Either that or, something that I haven't seen thrown around a lot, the NX will release next year in July and it's actually Nintendo's next handheld console and Nintendo wants to continue with separate handheld and home consoles. I don;t particularly lean towards that, but Nintendo has thrown all of us plenty of curve balls, so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
@ottospooky imagine if their new system transformed like a transformer from a home console gamepad to a portable ds-like unit. It would make lack of 3rd party support a non-issue if Nintendo could make all its games on one system.
@hobthebob outside of it actually transforming like a transformer, there's probably some truth in what you say. I believe that the NX will be a portable computer console as well as a home console.
I have the feeling the NX will be a handheld instead of a console. It is almost five years ago since the 3DS has launched.
If it is a console, the Wii U will be one of the more short-lived consoles from Nintendo. It will have less then a four year lifespan. It just feels too short for a console.
Abit offtopic, I remember the gamecube was released in may 2002 for EU. So it might release in another month then the usual fall releases.However at that time, Europe had a lot of delayed releases for games and a few consoles
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@Quorthon
"Nah. I still haven't picked it up. Or Witcher 3. And that comes first."
You won't be sorry. The Witcher 3 is one of my personal favorite games I have on any console I own. I've been playing for 180+ hours, but that's admittedly also because I started over halfway through to play on Death March difficulty instead (to get the trophies). Story is great, world and lore are expansive and immersive, and moment to moment gameplay is satisfying. The only qualm I have is that getting from point A to point B isn't much fun after you've been playing for over 100 hours.
Should you decide to do Death March, the start of the game is literally the hardest part. If you can make it past White Orchard and into Velen, and keep up with all your side quests, Death March starts to get manageable. Im level 24 and Death March hasn't kicked my ass since around level 7.
Anyway, I cant recommend the game enough. I got an Xbox One a couple weeks ago and still can't put down my PS4 because of Witcher 3.
I really wish you guys used a bit more variety in diction. So many recent articles have tossed around words used more than once in the same sentence. In this case, the offending root is "focus."
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