Forgive me, but it just seems like a 'my dad can beat up your little sister' ('s game) argument. Why not put the big boy games under the big boy microscope?
I really do not think I am being unconstructuve here - a forum should be about ALL veiws, and if you look at earlier comments, a good chunk of the people here DO agree with my argument.
No one is "beating up" anyone. It's just a discussion of if you think the game will be any good or not. Believe it or not, you can have an opinion on a game without being emotional. If you want to put the game under a microscope, that's fine. But putting other forum users under a microscope and taking this "Everyone but me is overemotional and doesn't understand anything" to every thread on the forum is counter-productive.
People have agrred that this should be left to the kids. That is the wrayburn observation #1
The wrayburn observation #2 is :
That I am NOT complaing about the topic, or disparging other users. I am simply asking them to explain themselves and their stance on this game. I find it absolutly bizarre that the best, brightest, and most informed gamers would choose 'My Birthday' as a software battle ground topic.
It analagous to Siskel and Ebert breaking down a Backyardigans cartoon as if it was on the same artistic plane as 'Citizen Kane'.
And wrayburn observation #3 is an expression of concern that I continue being labeled and my arguments derided as 'trolling' I simply do NOT understand that - this purports to be an open forum - but conditionally, you must apparently hold to conventional wisdom, if it holds water or no.
Hardcore, casual = marketing. The real divide is between arcade and narrative games.
Why does Eugenewrayburn seem to think that contributing to a topic you have no interest in is any less tragic than having a strong opinion on that topic?
This is a site about Nintendo and therefore it isn't surprising that many people on this site care about the finer details of games and the industry. Quite why Eugene insists on viewing people's interest in this detail as a personal slight is beyond my comprehension and most probably his own.
No one on this site thinks that the release of shovelware is more important than the Palestinian border or the relationships in their lives. They frame their opinon in language that suggests importance because they are on a website that is dealing primarily with video gaming. I wouldn't go onto a theatre website and imply that a user's disappointment at the latest performance of Othello was pathetic. As you are apparently committed to respecting all views I would very much hope you take this one on board.
Why not put the big boy games under the big boy microscope?
You can. You did. You picked Wind Waker, Excitebots and Smash Bros. People like those games. They disagreed. Nobody else still cares about it...why do you?
It analagous to Siskel and Ebert breaking down a Backyardigans cartoon as if it was on the same artistic plane as 'Citizen Kane'.
Last I checked, Ebert thought Paul Blart: Mall Cop deserved a thumbs up, which is the same thing he would have presumably given to Citizen Kane.
OMG THAT TOTALLY MEANS THEY ARE ON THE SAME ARTISTIC PLANE.
Get a grip, man. Not everything in the world has to be compared to everything else in the world, and nobody here is making comparisons like that. Except for you. Which you do, and then you use those examples to try to convince other people not to MAKE such comparisons. Which they aren't making to begin with!
All of this might lead somebody to envision you as sort of a dog chasing its own tail: You're welcome to do it, but forgive us if nobody joins you.
It’s My Birthday gives savvy mums and dads a complete “Party-in-a-Box” to throw the best next-generation birthday party for their kids, including themed games, invitations, banners, colouring sheets and a birthday crown – blue for boys, pink for girls!
“Getting older is about to become a lot more fun!” said Steve Lux, vice president of business development for 2K Play. “With It’s My Birthday, we deliver the ultimate home birthday party experience – from new twists on classic games to customized themes. We’re excited to give kids the gift of great memories and offer parents meaningful value.”
Up to 12 party goers can join in the festivities as they whack, roll, splash, pop, scribble, climb, jump, and shimmy their way through more than 20 birthday games, including Pin The Tail On The Donkey, Sack Race, Musical Chairs and Cake Stacker. The birthday boy or girl can also choose from ten party theme rooms to set the scene for an unforgettable bash, from “Pirates,” complete with sword and treasure chest, to “Princess,” with a royal castle, a fancy crown and unicorn. When it’s time to break for cake, a lively rendition of the traditional “Happy Birthday” song will play for everyone to sing along in karaoke-style, with a virtual cake on screen.
It’s My Birthday was developed by 2K’s Cat Daddy Games studio, the creators of the highly successful Carnival Games franchise, which has sold over four million copies to date.- From Nintendo life news release.
So what exactly are people getting upset with again?
Heck, Carnival Games recieved decent reviews, I have never played it, but this is even from a proven team. This site has beem very biased in their coverage of this game, and I guess that lynch mob mentality extends to the forums as well. I change my opinion, you have no right to call this shovelware.
I see now why I am on 'the outs' wih MY opinion here, I am against Nintendo Life 'anti-casual', anti-kid, news 'reporting'. And that is fine. I just do not see this as a signifigant release for serious, adult gaming fans, and have no idea why they would feel the need to attack it in any way, shape or form.
But yes, by all means pile on with the insults. I will sit at the 'nerd' table at lunch, cool.
Hardcore, casual = marketing. The real divide is between arcade and narrative games.
So what exactly are people getting upset with again?
What indeed. You're the only one presuming everyone to be emotional about this. People are just saying whether they expect the game to be good or not while you are imagining some non-existent argument between angry, crying children. Your press release proves nothing because there is no angry mob. No one is saying you can't like it.
Well Adam, maybe we should look at the source, the professional, unbiased news reporting of Nintendo Life : ***********************************************
It's My Birthday: Casual Gaming Hits a New Low Posted Wed, 06 May 2009 by Damien McFerran
We presume that there will be an option for players to throw a tantrum and send everyone home It's my party and I'll cry if I want to
The 'casual gaming' debate is likely to flare up again with the confirmation that 2K Games is planning to release It's My Birthday for the Nintendo Wii in June of this year.
Best described as a 'Birthday party simulator', this title is being billed as a 'party in a box', with support for up to 12 different brats.
Now call us old fashioned, but surely the appeal of a party is that you actually interact with people, scoff cake until you're sick and get loads of expensive presents that will ultimately be broken/lost in less than a month, and as yet the Wii isn't capable of offering all of the above (although we're sure that Nintendo is working on that).
Here's the full press release, if you have the stomach for it: ******************
"Casual gaming hits a new low" - huh. You can tell that from a press release and a couple of screenshots? Ok, great But now your audience knows how to react to this.
"The 'casual gaming' debate is likely to flare up again......" Of course it is - you are fanning the flames.
"heres the press release, if you havethe stomach for it. " Its your biased reporting that is hard to stomach, frankly.
"its my party and I'll cry if I want to" - Indeed.
This is emotional and political reporting, plain and simple. I cannot believe this site can write this, and then not stand up and be held accountable.
"(although we're sure that Nintendo is working on that)." No - actually Nintendo is NOT working on that. But of course, hold them 'accountable' for shovel ware......
It seems to be in good humor to me. But even if it's not, say so in the comments below that article, not here (or at least clarify to whom you're speaking). You've been calling the users in this thread an emotional mob, which is completely untrue. We're just discussing our opinions, no pitchforks required. If you have a bone to pick with the article writer, that's not what you've been saying.
And on the subject of the article, I see nothing wrong with it. There'd be no point to the site if the writers didn't have opinions.
Well Adam, maybe we should look at the source, the professional, unbiased news reporting of Nintendo Life
Yeah, i'm pretty sure they were joking around because they [Nintendo Life staff] knew their target audience was going to be pretty 'WTF is this crap???' over It's My Birthday, and whaddayaknow? they were right. Lighten up, dude. :/
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Well Adam, maybe we should look at the source, the professional, unbiased news reporting of Nintendo Life :
Oh cool, at least people think we're professionals
My personal issue with the title is what it represents, a sub-genre of games aimed at younger gamers that is there purely to make money with a complete lack of any creative integrity - something the video games industry is fast loosing.
I can just imagine the board meeting where this idea of this game was born, it was probably a pure business decision, rather than what would make a good game. We're going to loose what we love, creative, interesting games
Yeah, and I don't even disagree.... So what? That just you and I's tastes. I have an 8 year old neice and she would probably love it, she loves all those horse and cow games on DS, ya know. And I think they suck. Big deal.
That's great. You buy it for your niece, and she, along with other little kids, can enjoy the game any way she pleases, along with her Horsez games, and ignore everyone's petty complaints.
People thought WindWaker would suck prelaunch because of its graphics. Big deal.
Oh, and I do not own even 1 mingme collection. That your problem if you have 3000.....
That was an exaggeration made for comedic purposes. Believe me, I'm pretty sure the Wii doesn't even have nearly that amount of Minigames collections in it's library. My point was that the Wii has far too many shallow games of this caliber, and the concept of this game in particular sounds incredibly stupid.
Its a great analogy, you just can't follow it....don't assume everyone shares your tastes in gaming, don't assume games are neccesarily made with you and mind and quit being so judgemental, especially on unreleased games. Smack me in the head, I will punch you in the mouth.
Actually no, that's a horrible analogy. People's beef with Wind Waker had nothing to do with how the game played. Those were just fanboys complaining about the new art style. You shouldn't be comparing Smnash Bros. and Zelda to a simple minigame collection anyway. That's like comparing Yu-Gi-Oh: The Movie to The Godfather. That there is a good analogy.
Oh, and the slap-upside-the-head comment wasn't directed at your opinions, it was directed at the painful pun you ended the post before with. It was a joke. Lighten up. Perhaps I should've put a at the end to notify that....
Ask your self why you are so obssessed with a game you wil never play. You think everygame should or could be 'epic' or tailor made for you? Get a grip.
Dude, I am definitely NOT the kind of person that thinks every other game should be a sprawling, 30-hour epic. I'm just fine with a 10-or-so hour game that doesn't have too much story to it. And who in the hell said they wanted a game that was "tailor-made" for them. No one wants that.
It’s My Birthday was developed by 2K’s Cat Daddy Games studio, the creators of the highly successful Carnival Games franchise, which has sold over four million copies to date.- From Nintendo life news release.
So what exactly are people getting upset with again?
Heck, Carnival Games recieved decent reviews, I have never played it, but this is even from a proven team. This site has beem very biased in their coverage of this game, and I guess that lynch mob mentality extends to the forums as well. I change my opinion, you have no right to call this shovelware.
People are getting upset because the Wii has far too many shallow games like this, and since they sell well, companies are given more motivation to keep shoveling these games out. Many gamers own Wiis, and they want more games that can be enjoyed for more than 5 minutes. So people are getting upset because this company's gonna release another game that sells well, and this annoying trend will continue.
Carnival games has a 56 on Metacritic right now, which isn't a very good score at all (though I suppose it's OK for the type of game...). My point still stands.
Well Adam, maybe we should look at the source, the professional, unbiased news reporting of Nintendo Life :
blah blah blah...
This is emotional and political reporting, plain and simple. I cannot believe this site can write this, and then not stand up and be held accountable.
"(although we're sure that Nintendo is working on that)." No - actually Nintendo is NOT working on that. But of course, hold them 'accountable' for shovel ware......
OK, for one, NintendoLife isn't exactly the most reliable news source to begin with (no offense guys). Also, I wouldn't call what their comment "emotional". It was a sarcastic, joking comment aimed at the many people who would comment on this game and say things like "ZOMG WHY DUZ NINTENDO KEEPS DOIN DIS TO TEH HARDCORE GAMERZ LOL!". Also, they've associated with games for years. You haven't. So they don't exactly see eye-to-eye with the casuals.
And another thing, they said Nintendo was accounted for because, you know, they're the ones in charge of regulating which games come out on THEIR console...
And another thing, they said Nintendo was accounted for because, you know, they're the ones in charge of regulating which games come out on THEIR console...
Yep, many Nintendo fans used to have fair confidence in the "Nintendo Seal of Quality" stamped on every game, although I guess we know these days its practically meaningless.
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