Topic: The PlayStation Fan Thread

@Magician They're not gonna sell PS5s without a disc drive option out of the box. They're not Microsoft. A physical market actually exists for PS5 games.

You should be happy about this revision: before, someone with a digital PS5 was forever locked into the digital ecosystem. Now anyone can buy digital and upgrade to physical with an accessory.

If anything, this move improves the situation of physical games on PS5.

@Magician @Ralizah We don't know that the disc model has the disc drive attached. It could be like Joy-Cons in Switch bundles where while included, you have to attach it to the console yourself.

@Grumblevolcano Considering first-party developers are making a point of emphasizing that certain games are fully playable out of the box without updates (Spider-Man 2), it seems unlikely that they wouldn't give consumers the option to just boot up the PS5 with the disk drive already attached.

Although it's a non-issue, tbh. Everything needs to connect to the internet now. It should be expected that new consoles will need to go online at least sometimes.

I found that this is the case only for the ALL digital consoles or Xbox One/Series X. All other consoles can be booted up from the box to the main menu and then updated via USB flash drive.

It might sound silly but the Xbox does not offer that option when bought new OR after factory reset (also it needs MS account on top of that)

@Zuljaras That's still updating them. So your objection is primarily just the device itself needing to go online, not necessarily needing to update it?

I do think a system should be able to boot up and function in some basic sense without internet, to be clear.

Microsoft is definitely the furthest down the road in terms of making its hardware completely reliant on access to an internet connection.

Especially if the XSX revision leak is real and both new systems are "adorably all-digital."

@Ralizah Yes, my objection is that a device that has a slot for physical media requires internet to be set up and function at all.

Well, MS are pushing for the all-digital future. I still think it is not the right time.

Also, why MS want to partner with LRG to make physical copies of games is beyond me

@Zuljaras tbf would you ever think it's the right time for an all-digital future?

I guess they really care for all five people who still play physical games on their Xboxes. Although that does, indeed seem to conflict with the adorably all-digital future.

In many ways, modern Microsoft seems like it's fulfilling a large chunk of the vision for the brand that Mattrick was so castigated for a decade ago.

@Ralizah it all depends on the profits. But all digital will push the idea of releasing games in even worse state than now and fixing it later.

Every game will stop being a game and it will become a service. Many games will lose any kind of attention to details and charm.

But this is just me

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A first detailed look at the new, slimmer PS5, for those interested:

My biggest disappointment is that even if you buy a PS5 Slim with its disc drive connected in the factory, you still need to connect it to the Sony servers in order to pair it

I see zero reason behind that. It is just a disc drive.

It sounds even more idiotic since you can just install an extra SSD and the console will format it for you without the need for the Sony servers, but a disc drive is much more "serious"

Hey guys! Recently I've heavily gotten into retro gaming and have been tinkering around with my old PS3 as a result, and have come across something that has me....perplexed to put it mildly.

As far as my understanding PS3 backwards-compatibility goes, while all models can play PS1 games to some degree, only the original models of the PS3 are backwards-compatible with PS2 games. The one I have appears to be a PS3 Slim based off of the appearance of it (it's plugged into the wall in such a way where I can't check the model number so I'm kind of eyeballing it here XD) so in theory it shouldn't be able to play PS2 games, correct?

I thought this for the longest while myself, not even thinking about it all too much and planning my purchase of an original PS2 instead when, on a whim, I decided to check out the Memory Card save file feature on my PS3 in preparation for loading up some PS1 games down the line when I was greeted by this image:

If the Slim model is supposed to be incompatible with PS2 games then why is it giving me the option to make a digital PS2 memory card save? If anyone who's used a PS3 in the past could help me out here, I'd greatly appreciate it because man: I'd be over the moon if I could play PS2 games without having to fork over the cash for the system itself (though would still be fine in doing so if I have to!).

oh and because I forgot to show it, here's an example image of the PS3 I have:

I done did it, Spider Man 2 PS5 Slim has been ordered. By the weekend hopefully I'll be retiring my launch PS4 after ten years of uncommon reliability. Honestly, the best disc-based console I've ever owned.

Sega CD? Two of those in a year.
Saturn? One in three years.
Dreamcast? Two in four years.
Turbo Duo? One in one year.
PS1? Five in six years, constant heat issues.
PS2? Three in three years, constant disc drive issues.
PS3? One in five years.
OG Xbox? One in six years.
Xbox 360? Five in six years, RRoD frequently.
GC? One in five years.
Wii U? One in four years.

@Fizza Whilst the slim models of the PS3 can't play physical PS2 games, there are emulated digital PS2 games on the store that are able to be played on any model of PS3 known as Playstation Classics. The internal memory cards are for save data and the like in those versions, if I recall correctly.

@Scooby-Doo Oh so I can't just pop in a PS2 disc then? I see, thanks for letting me know 👍

@Fizza On the upside though, if any of the games you want are on the shop, they'll probably be a lot cheaper to buy. They're less than £10 or $10, but I don't know about euros or anything else. Every cloud has a silver lining and all that.

@Fizza There's no harm in trying (if you have a disc to hand) - worst case it just won't read the disc. I've only just realised that I've never actually tried a PS2 disc in the PS3 (Slim, same as your previous pic) I just assumed it didn't work. I've still got the PS2 kicking around though so I've no real need to, although one less console to connect is always a bonus.

@Scooby-Doo Don't have a PS account (and am a bit too lazy to make one right now XD) but cheers for the tip-off!

Oh and one last question before I go: PS1 games still run natively on a PS3 Slim right? Been thinking about picking Resident Evil 1, 2 and 3 for next Halloween and would love to be able to play them on PS3 if possible!

@Fizza I haven't tested that yet, but they are supposed to. If you can't and I'm just misremembering, I know you can get 1 and 3 of those digitally, but they should work as disks as well.

@Fizza, PS1 discs work fine on slim PS3. Once in a blue moon I'll pop in our old Crash Bandicoot, or Gex 3 discs for a nostalgia hit.