@Octane
I wonder whose idea to make Xbox names become very confusing to spell.
Name it Xbox Two and it will be understandable.
By naming with Series X, Series S, Series Whatever, it just wasting the electronic materials production.
More customers will get confused and ended by bought wrong products.
@Octane Oh good grief. Who at Microsoft thought it was a good idea to copy nintendos way of releasing a console?
If Microsoft releases a $600 console and a $300 console that doesn't play gen9 games and has worse graphics than x1x, I'm starting with ps5.... Id get an x eventually since it upgrades my 300 game library..... But my x1x would remain the better place to play that old library than ps5 which afawk, doesn't enhance old games (yet).
Don't know if this has been said before, but what do people on here think of the rumors that demon souls will be a launch title. If they're true, at least for me, I'll already be out the door.
@Octane Yeah, I saw the article and Series X having "Xbox Series X exclusives" meanwhile Series S having "Next-Gen support" sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
@Grumblevolcano Yeah, that makes it sound more like a revision of the One S. A digital-only console that won't get the next gen games. But how many people want that at this point? Just keep the One S on the market.
The more i heard about Xbox Series X and other confusing names series, the more i think Xbox Series X will be completely flopped. A DOA product in my opinion.
The best effort from Xbox for me was Xbox 360 E.
@Octane one s is still going to be on the market. They discontinued 1x, not 1s, to compete with inevitable PS4 Milk Jug And Duct Tape edition.
It sounds almost like XSeS isn't actually a 1080p version of XSeX like it was assumed, it sounds like it's a relabeled X1X....... Makes sense, can play some but not all XSeX games...
Edit: i don't thing a relabled machine makes sense, just that it makes sense it would be that, based on it not running all games. I don't think it existing makes sense at all. We thought it was the same box with a cheaper gpu running lower res. If it's a different box overall, or a relabled 1x..... That's a mess and a half.
It sounds almost like XSeS isn't actually a 1080p version of XSeX like it was assumed, it sounds like it's a relabeled X1X....... Makes sense, can play some but not all XSeX games...
Well that would be pretty annoying. The idea of a less expensive 1080p version of the same console is incredibly appealing to me given that I only have a 1080 monitor.
Still, at the moment I can genuinely see their next gen console just being a complete disaster, and pretty much no-one buys it, so they retreat into the gamepass business model and just keep releasing games on the Xbone and PC as well. Which suits me, cos I don't need to buy another console.
@Dezzy Yeah. Maybe the rumor octane mentioned isn't true. Let's hope it's not. I had really high hopes for the XSeX. With 1x ms seemed to really straighten up and figure out what's what. But the more we see in the last 2 weeks, the more I go from excited to "xbone 2, how could they possibly screw it up twice??". It's not hard... These rumors sounds like Nintendo levels if "wtf, why would to DO that?"
Honestly I had minimal enthusiasm for ps5, and the ms rumors over the past two weeks are selling me into ps hype mode.
Seriously if Sony messes up on price I'm seriously going to be pricing pc for the first time in a decade....
@Octane switch was an obvious win. A short 5 powerful handheld from the monopoly of handhelds, that doubles as a wiiu or better level console couldn't fail.
What the rumors say about xb is unimaginable senselessness. XSeX is no doubt fantastic hardware, but if it's priced above 500 it's doa, and Sony dicless will undercut it.
XSeS sounds like it may not be even be a true 9th gen. Even if it is, it's a downgrade from x1x visually.... And they couldn't move that at 500. If XSeS is weaker than ps5 discless but not priced significantly lower... What's the point?
I'm a huuuuge fan of x1x but i can't help but think it was a mistake. A 3 year console before replacing it with....a worse one? And a far more expensive one? XSeS/SeX would have looked more appealing without probably
@NEStalgia I think we'll be seeing a reverse 7th gen. Series X ends up being the more powerful and more reliable hardware but lack of games (because Microsoft won't delay to holiday 2021) and a $599 price makes the system be a meme. Meanwhile PS5 is massively popular at $499 (disc)/$399 (digital) though becomes infamous for a technical fault of Xbox 360 RROD scale.
@Grumblevolcano ooof, you took my cynicism and raised me 400. . That $599 price tag.... Seeing it in print makes it even more absurdist than in my mind. Xbox Done indeed. They simply can not seriously intend to charge that. I know the fanboys, whom i now picture entirely as Audi owners, feel that 600 is a bargain to go with their $4000 TVs, but that's not enough of a market to hang Phil's hat on. And even he just has a Jeep.
$399 digital, I'm in. And there's less of a reason to even get ps5 at launch than XSeX.
Honestly I had minimal enthusiasm for ps5, and the ms rumors over the past two weeks are selling me into ps hype mode.
I really don't have any enthusiasm for the next gen at all at this point. I'll be forced to buy a PS5 for the exclusives at some point (I can't NOT play Demon's Souls), but that's not really hardware related at all. I'm just as excited for the next Zelda game, the next 3D Mario game, and Metroid Prime 4, as I am for new consoles.
I just need to see something that really seems like a technological leap forward before I get hyped. Like that Unreal Engine 5 demo but a full game like that. We haven't seen anything like that yet. It did take a while with the current gen though to be fair. Seeing the Uncharted 4 trailer was what made me finally buy a PS4, because it was clearly just way beyond anything possible on the previous gen.
@Dezzy for me, and even Phil said it about XSeX is not really about a leap in graphics anymore, it's about performance. Current gen "does"things it's not good at and can't do smoothly, and the next gen does it smoothly... Which is cool. That's exciting..... But not at the prices were looking at and the terrible launches. A console launch should be exciting, and this one feels like "eh, just get it over with so the prices can drop and I'll upgrade eventually. XSeX was an exciting upgrade as it upgrades nearly all my content. Ps5 isn't very exciting, it upgrades nothing and it's just a license to buy new games. "A box to play Mario Ratchet on".
Yet at the rumored asking prices, XSeX proves ms still doesn't understand their market or potential market on, and they seem to be focusing on "offering premium products" instead of filling an actual market void... Where they're needed.
I'm excited for Series X but I didn't upgrade to XB1X given it seemed like just a stopgap console at the time. @NEStalgia's idea from 2018 about XB1/XB1S being dropped at next gen launch, XB1X getting a 5 year lifespan and new hardware happening such that there's always 2 active models (a more powerful model and a cheaper model that doesn't hold back the more powerful model but can still play all the games) is a better idea than what's actually happening.
Can't find the exact comment but there's a load of large text walls about next gen theories around page 241 of the Xbox thread (20 posts per page).
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