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Dezzy

@CanisWolfred

What a coincidence. When I saw Trump on TV as president of the US, I thought "that guy would make a good gameshow host"

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Dezzy wrote:

@CanisWolfred

What a coincidence. When I saw Trump on TV as president of the US, I thought "that guy would make a good gameshow host"

Oy vey, don't remind me. I actually watched a few episodes of the game show Trump used to host before it was cancelled. He just painted himself as an insufferable jerk that people were going to stupid lengths to try to impress...

That aside, after I talked to my brother about Final Fantasy XV Steam Edition, he's been keeping up with it. It sounds like the file size requirements are over 100GB! Wow! Even if that's just doubled for the install, that's a pretty big game! Certainly bigger than what it used to be on the PS4. Now I really am glad I'm trading up. I'm more than sure now that I'd have to download over 30 gigs just for the various updates, let alone the DLC. I tried downloading Warframe the other day, and wound up spending the rest of the evening bored out of my skull, since apparently 30 GB takes over 8 hours for my connection to download! Everything else got throttled, so I couldn't do anything on the computer, and playing PS4 games just seemed to slow it down. So, yeah, I really don't want to sit through that again...

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Dezzy

@CanisWolfred

Yeah I really don't know what all that space is for in FFXV. I remember when I downloaded the combined updates in December it was about 24GB. So that's all of the updates to the base game that've been combined since launch, but not including the DLC.
Really no idea what's taking up all of that space. Texture, video and audio take up the most space.
Part of it is that they added some video from Kingsglaive at the beginning. But no idea what the rest is.

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Dezzy

Oooooo, new info. This is GOOD.

I'd speculated that they were including the boat in the Royal Edition because they planned on making the 2nd continent explorable and the boat could therefore be used to get to the various places around the shore (as it's not clear what the point of a controllable boat would be otherwise.

Well we just had some info that the Royal Edition update will include some new missions in Chapter 10:

Chapter 10 is the beginning of the on-rails section on the 2nd continent. So it's hard to see how they'd include new missions without making some of the areas explorable. And now I've found a youtuber who claims they've also updated some of the environments on the 2nd continent in the recent update https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJbvuRB5DGY.
No reason at all they'd do this unless they were making it explorable.

This definitely points to them making the 2nd continent at least partially explorable at some point in 2018, which is awesome. My 2 complaints with the original game were that the plot holes were a nightmare and the pacing was terrible because of the on-rails section.
It now looks like they might end up fixing both of those complaints. People who didn't play this on launch but try it at the end of 2018 are so damn lucky. It's gone from average/good on launch to being close to one of the best in the series imo.

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Octane

@Dezzy When is the game finished?

I'll give it a go whenever they release an official Complete Edition or something like that.

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Dezzy

@Octane

As far as we know, they're continuing to provide further DLC until the end of 2018 and then stopping at the end of the year.

But nothing has officially been announced beyond the march Royal Edition. So who knows. Maybe they changed their mind about the further DLC and this thing in march will be the end.

It's gonna be so damn good by the time it's finished though. I envy people who skipped it on launch.
I'd say at launch it was like a 7.5/10 game but now it's close to a 9/10 game.

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Octane

@Dezzy Is all of the DLC integrated into the main campaign? Or are they separate modes? I believe some of them are, but I haven't been following it very closely.

Octane

Dezzy

@DarthNocturnal

Unfortunately, the saves won't carry across. There have been 2 different points over the last year's updates where they've said the previous saves will no longer work. You really want to start from the beginning anyway though!

@Octane

No, it's not at the moment. That's one of the main annoyances. Some of the updates are seamless in the main game but others you have to start from the menu.
I hope they'll consider fixing that in future updates but at the same time it's not too much trouble to just save the main game and then go and start from the menu when the DLC point occurs. You do need to know the best point to play each of the DLC though. Which you can probably figure out from the story. Or just ask on here.
I bet they will fix that in the next few months though. Enough people have asked them to.

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Octane

@Dezzy I see. Well, of course it depends on the content whether I'm interested in it in the first place. I've heard some weird stuff. I believe there's a VR mode (or have they never released it?), then there's that fishing mini-game, but that's also a separate release. All I care about is the bit that integrate seamlessly in the main game. I've also heard you need to watch Kingsglaive first.

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Dezzy

@Octane

The fishing game IS the VR mode. They were originally doing something different with VR but couldn't get it worked as they liked so just did the fishing thing instead.

I really wouldn't worry too much that it's not integrated into the main game. I did a full playthrough with it all in sequence and it feels just fine. Because the DLC is all based on using a different character, it doesn't feel too weird to just go and start from the menu. Because you're starting something that's very different anyway. It felt just fine to me.
And you need to watch both the Kingsglaive movie and the Brotherhood anime before you start. They'll add to the enjoyment of the story immensely.

@DathNocturnal

Oh wait, no I got confused. It's that the saves won't work on older versions of the game once they've been saved in the new version.

But if you only played the game at launch, you really should restart from the beginning so you can play it with the DLC in the correct places. Far more enjoyable that just playing the DLC by themselves.

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Dezzy

@DarthNocturnal

You really don't need 100 hours to 100% the game. Just level-up your characters by avoiding sleeping for about a week and then sleeping at the Altissia hotel.

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Dezzy

Did anyone ever figure out why the flying car couldn't fly over certain areas of the map? Like the Vesperpool.

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Dezzy

More info that points to further changes coming up. Someone's found that they added some new audio files in the latest update. These are dialogue that indicates they're driving the car when they're older, which obviously doesn't happen in the game. So this might mean they're also gonna open up the dark world in the last chapter. Possibly use the scenery they designed for Comrades and bring it into the main game? If so, that would hopefully suggest they're also considering making the DLC seamless with the main game.

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darkfenrir

Tried the first chapter for FFXV at the Pocket Edition, it makes me can't wait for the Windows Edition!

The story seems to be interesting enough so far, and I think I'll love it (The OST is also great!)

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Inertiacreep

wait, so FFXV is supposedly really good now? Is this coming from people who enjoyed XIII?

Inertiacreep

darkfenrir

@Inertiacreep Well, haven't played the PC version, but the Pocket Edition's first chapter made me want to truly play it. Seems interesting, and I think the gameplay will feel better when in controller form instead of the touch control version (the touch control is very nice though- simplified, but nice).

And I never played XIII, but I enjoyed FF9 and World of Final Fantasy for the FF games.

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Dezzy

@Inertiacreep

I think it's really good now and I didn't like 13. My favourites are 6,7 and 9. In fact I think this might even make it into my top 5 after all the updates have been added.

I think my top 5 would be:

1.FF7
2.FF9
3.FF6
4.FF10
5.FF15

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Inertiacreep

@Dezzy well everyone knows 6 is unquestionably the best so your opinion is totally invalid. Lol

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Dezzy

Inertiacreep wrote:

@Dezzy well everyone knows 6 is unquestionably the best so your opinion is totally invalid. Lol

My order for the top 3 does change from time to time. It's always 6,7 and 9. Just in different orders depending on what mood I'm in and which I've played most recently.

I didn't play 6 when I was a kid though so I don't have any nostalgia for it. So playing it nowadays isn't quite the same. The little technical things like the fact that you can only move the character in 4 directions become a lot more annoying than they probably once were (especially since they fixed that in Chrono Trigger a year later)

I do think 6 has the best story and writing in the series though. And of course the best single scene in any RPG ever.

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