Topic: Where does Nintendo go after Switch?

Wow are we starting these threads a bit early?? The Switch is a success, it's not like the Wii U.

Nice to see my thread is back from the dead!

@Tasuki I actually started this discussion last year lol. But the point is that since the Switch IS a success, how will Nintendo handle it? They've been trying something completely different each time in the console space, but now that they've finally found a niche, will they stick to it or change things up again like they did with the Wii (from GameCube), Wii U (from Wii), or Switch (from Wii U)? I hope they stick with the Switch template for a long time.

@shadow-wolf It's incredibly difficult to predict Nintendo's next move. Remember that they have now come out and said they want to see the Switch last longer than previous generations, and they have a partnership with Nvidia now which will most likely be expanded from the current 10 years. So Switch iterations aside, I think the question isn't what will Nintendo decide to do next, but more like what will they be forced to do next? Each time Nintendo has released a console they have been forced to change things up in order to stay relevant.

The Wii was created as a result to the failures of the GameCube and Nintendo's ability to remain in the power race. The Wii U was kinda a half assed idea where Nintendo I think were in a difficult position. The Wii was massively successful but the audience had all but gone but there was a desire to try and appeal to that audience while also trying to appeal to the hardcore market. And the result was a random unsure machine. The Switch was created as a result of Nintendo trying to distance themselves from the Wii generation.

So in order to ask where does Nintendo go next, we need to ask what is the industry going to be like by the time a new console from Nintendo is to be revealed? Will Sony and Microsoft themselves still be developing consoles? Will there be a market for hybrids like the Switch? It's all changing so fast that we can't really say for sure where things will be in 5 years, let alone 10 years.

Hopefully Nintendo will get rid of the Switch and actually make a real home gaming console Again, instead of this portable that they are trying to pass of as a real home console that you can take with you. I want a true Nintendo home gaming console that actually has more than 25gb on space on it and uses full size media either on disc or cartridges that isn't over priced like the Switch cartridges are. I don't care for the Switch game cards at all feel so cheaply made and when you shake the cartridge the main stuff inside actually moves bad design by Nintendo.

Agreed. Nintendo didn't even want to move away from the SNES because it was still a powerhouse even when it was a generation out of date.

Wat.
Is this like a "no true scottsman" elitism idealism or something? "The Nintendo I know wouldn't make a portable console! This isn't real gaming because (insert arbitrary personal preferences here)"

Just play on PC mate. Cheaper for the same amount of power. Optional DRM. No disc/cart swapping. And you never run the risk of buying an unpopular unit that doesn't get much 3rd party support.

@mowerdude I think the exact opposite I like the cartridges. Some of my DS and GBA cartridges do the same stuff when I shake them.

The only complaint I have is their price for the developers. I want bigger cartridges to be available to the developers so we don't get more half games like LA Noire.

@mowerdude I like the portability of the Switch, but also would like to see Nintendo's games get the full-fat console treatment some point in the future. We still haven't got a Zelda game based on "that" Spaceworld 2000 demo that wowed everyone all those years ago.

@SwitchForce 4K portable for $500 is impossible for the foreseeable future. You are basically wanting the Xbox one X in portable format at the same price point. The switch would need to be at least 6 times more powerful.

Also, why would you want a tiny screen with 4k?

I think Nintendo should go to the pub next and celebrate their success

He has a PS4, Xbox One, and Wii U. So yeah pretty much, trying to tell a tech/gaming company what they should be doing with their hardware based on his own opinion and preference. Sort of removes all credibility that he had. It's like going to Subway and asking them to make greasy burgers like their biggest competitors, because that's what he'd rather.

@mowerdude, @Therd, both fanboys of other hardware should keep their opinions on their respected forums instead. This is what I expect of fanboys when their system are loosing sales and customer base. Therd, you do know your smartphone is already getting close to 4k and yet no peep from you buying it right? This is what I expect from someone afraid of something new and willing to make innovations where others failed-even gaming PC laptops can go on the move something xbox/ps4 can't do and some have 4k PC gaming laptops. mowerdude, take a chill pill and maybe get some enlightenment in your case. And also don't buy a NS then no one is holding a gun to your head to buy it yet here you bought it and now making disparaging remarks of the NS but fail to see the bigger picture which couldn't be farther from the falsehood your spotting here. Stop grabbing for the last straw and move into true innovation.

The phones that can push 4k are not cheap. And it is one thing to have a screen that can output 4k, it is a completely other thing to render a game at 4k with a decent frame rate without sacrificing details.

Games are much more demanding than most things you do on a phone. If you increase the resolution of a game, you need to decrease either frame rate or in game detail. If the only thing you add are resolution you will be sorely disappointed, since the difference would be basically nil. You would be better of to wish for increased frame rate and HDR, those would give a much more noticeable effect.

Gaming laptops, while they have become smaller, are nowhere near the size and portability of the switch. And models that can output 4k costs about 6 times your suggested price. And they are much more expensive than a desktop computer with the same specs. This is because when you press down the size, you need to sacrifice something. In this case you have to pay through your nose basically. I wouldn't be surprised if they are slower, even if they on paper look like they are the same thing. They are definitively also not mainstream machines.

So don't count on the next switch to have 4k resolution in handheld. Especially not in the next couple of years.

And why are you setting me up as a fan boy of the other consoles? Using straw men isn't a good way to discuss.

Out of business.

I'd love to see the next system be to the Switch like the 3DS was to the DS. A bunch more powerful, some improved controls (Analogue triggers and microphone/headphone jack as opposed to the addition of ZL/ZR and the second stick), possibly some new experimental tech to mess with, but launching with tech about as old as Switch's was at launch. Impoved screen (1080p on the portable side, like 3DSes upgraded top screen), proper backwards compatibility, a UI that basically functions as a straight upgrade from where the Switches ends up being instead of starting from scratch again.

Basically, nothing too fancy, just refinement of the current concept. Probably not anything more than a 1440p output in docked mode, but I wouldn't mind even sticking to 1080p and just being able to keep up with the graphics on other consoles outside of fighting the game of resolution as well.

I hope the Switch and its sure-to-be-coming hardware updates last us nearly a decade.

I think in 10 years gaming will come to a crossroads, and consoles and tactile PC gaming with a mouse and keyboard will become niche and retro while all the new stuff is all virtual reality or augmented reality through smart watches, phones, glasses, implants (half-hearted lol), etc.

Nintendo will need to choose which side to be on.

<sits back, watches clock and steeples fingers>

Yeah I have a PS4, Xbox One, Switch, Wii U. So what does that actually have to do with me wanting Nintendo to actually bring out a true home gaming console? I just want a Nintendo branded home console that actually is a home console and not just a portable console that can be docked to a tv. Just look at the Switch and tell me that it wasn't designed as a portable console first and the part about being a main home console was just a after thought, so they put in a dock just to clam it was a home console. When it really isn't. I want more internal storage instead of this lame 25gb and the way games are getting released on the Switch where not even Nintendo is wanting to actually use the bigger game carts cutting games down in size like Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, and third partys just putting half a game on smaller carts and expecting the users to eat the extra cost of purchasing a micro-sd card to just to play there games on the Switch. Like DOOM, La Noire, Resident evil Revelations collection, Mega Man Legacy collection.

@SwitchForce Seem like you are the fanboy who can't stand it went other people have a different opinions than yours. So maybe you need the chill pill more than anyone else and enlighten yourself about people having different opinions besides your own. How is the Switch true innovation when it is missing so many main features main one being backing up game saves so easy yet so hard for Nintendo to include them and still is not word when and if we will actually get them beside's maybe the lame pay to backup to cloud saves.

I see a lot of opinions just like mine here.Every time Nintendo tries to be innovative.Maybe the next time they dont need to be!They need to put their work and ideas into Switch 2.0 and everything will work just fine for them and for their costumers.The idea behind switch is great - and if you add more power, VR, the magical nintendo touch and everything will be great!

@mowerdude
Your opinion is fine, and I agree with you. But you need to chill, brah. Go take an ice cream bath and come back tomorrow.

in 8-9 years (boy we will be old by then), Switch 2 is a safe bet. I don't think technology (fiber internet etc) will be ready for flawless streaming gaming but who knows? Nintendo will chose the safe bet, a traditional console. Maybe the last of its kind.

I get it, you don't like portable consoles. You've just repeated everything you already said. However, Nintendo decided portable consoles are what they're best at, and they don't want to go into the power race because it's an expensive and risky fight - they already lost it hard several times, while their handhelds have been going strong since dot. I'm sticking with them because I care more for versatility and access more than graphics and power - I have a PC for that. I have a Switch to do all the things that a PC can't do because it's managed to cover that like a boss.

So it's fine that you want a Nintendo device with more storage, and that you don't like some of the less debatable, draconian decisions that Nintendo has made, however, you're not going to get it, specifically because the Xbox One and PS4 (that you own - so play them) have already done it and done it so well and Nintendo wants no part in competing with that. They're targeting a wider, less tech-head audience and succeeding very well with an affordable console that can do so many things the competition cannot.