Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

My issue is that these will likely be used as an excuse to not port over the games once Nintendo releases a more powerful console. Now I think developers are opting to put these cloud versions on the system instead of outsourcing the work to a company who could port them properly. In some cases that might mean we get get games that wouldn't have come over at all (like Control and Hitman), but in order cases it'll replace proper ports.

I'm just glad Dragon Quest XI S came to the system before Square-Enix realized it could skate by on zero effort streaming versions instead. That game was ported so beautifully. If it were today, they'd probably have just slapped DQXI Cloud Version on the Switch and called it a day.

Oh well. More time and money for developers who ARE going to the trouble to properly port their games to the Switch. I don't even have enough time to play the games I want that are releasing for the system as is.

Can't wait for the Final Fantasy GBA Cloud Collection.

1. They don't need that excuse, they've had countless others in the past
2. I can't imagine these are successful enough to replace actual ports. They're a "well if we're not gonna do a real port anyway" solution to make a little bit extra money.

More time and money for developers who ARE going to the trouble to properly port their games to the Switch

Exactly right. The Wii U era this is not. We have no shortage of amazing games constantly releasing month after month- too many for most to keep up with. I'm spending serious money on Switch games and so are many others. If they want a slice of that action, here we are. If not, then just move along. We'll happily help the companies who do value our money inflate their quarterly earnings instead.

Thank you Capcom for Monster Hunter Rise. Enjoy that 7.5 million sold (and still counting). When RE Switch arrives, we'll respond in kind. Thank you Atlus for SMTV. We'll be sure to make it a million seller. Companies that give us equal games with equal effort, they see results equal to what they see on other platforms. Give us unequal games with unequal effort, don't be surprised to see results unequal to what you see on other platforms.

Square Enix has become a lazy company (and I rarely use the term lazy) thanks to years of bribery and backroom payoffs. They've grown complacent, from all the money Sony throws at them to make FF games exclusive, all the money Epic throws at them to keep games off Steam... they just expect payouts. And if you're not paying out, expect the bare minimum.

I mean if 3rd parties stop doing proper ports and it affects Nintendo enough to actually make a Switch with more modern hardware under the hood I think it’ll be a good thing long term. Things like the Switch OLED exist because Nintendo is told by it’s core cult of fans they don’t need to do anything more. Their core audience carry them on the back of first party releases, despite so much of what Nintendo do being anti-consumer or just outdated practices . I think the pressure has to come from outside.

Has any of you tried to wash the Switch Lite Flip Cover in a washing machine?

How did that go?

I mean, ignoring how much this doesn't matter in reality in the first place (Skyrim and GTA 5 being notable upcoming PS5 releases should've ended this discussion tbh), I imagine by the time there would be a notable decrease in support from major publishers, Nintendo will already be on track to put out a successor anyway. "Oh no, now we need to...do the thing we're already doing!"

@Pizzamorg
PS2, PSP, DS, 3DS and PS3 games are perfectly capable of running on Switch. This has nothing to do with lack of power, regardless of what PR nonsense SE cites as justification. It’s lack of will. A more powerful system won’t change that.

And frankly, most third parties aren’t stopping doing proper ports. If it came to that one day, then I think Nintendo would respond (though by that time it would be next generation anyways, so…). But it hasn’t come to that yet. Just because a small minority of super fans say they have to put out a next gen system in the middle of the generation because they’re too impatient to wait a few short years for the generation to wrap up, doesn’t really speak to a need for it. Things like switch OLED exist because they iterate their hardware every few years. Always have and always will (and thank goodness for it! Its a better revision of the system many will enjoy). Their “cult of fans” is 100 million people who enjoy their products. And those people aren’t going to boycott video games just because you want more powerful hardware and are too impatient to wait three more years for the next generation to start.

Whether Nintendo does outdated or anti-consumer practices or not, they make a product that is incredibly appealing to tens of millions of people. I don’t think it’s right calling 100 million people “wrong” just because they’re satisfied with something you’re not. Not even “satisfied”. Because I’m sure many people would appreciate something more. But what do you want them to do- sell their switches and quit their hobby for the next three years in protest? Not buy a better revision system they genuinely want to enjoy? How radicalized do you think most people are about video games to the point they put activism over fun?

For the overwhelming majority of people, things are perfectly fine and they don’t need to do deviate from the standard generational blueprint they’ve been following for 40 years now. Would be cool if they did, but it’s not needed, no matter how many times a small vocal minority repeats that they do on the Internet. It’s not like this is the hardware that’s going to be around for the next century- new generations come every 6-8 years. And people are perfectly OK waiting the tiny amount of time there is left for the next generation.

The fact switch has remained the best selling system in the world for the last five years straight and still going speaks to the fact they are doing far more right than they are wrong. Contrary to internet myth, the sky will not fall if we have to wait for the next generation before we get a more powerful system. It’s not needed now, and never has been. Would be nice, but there are far too many quality games releasing on the system for anyone to make the argument that it’s “needed”. The hostility toward fans who just enjoy video games and enjoy their products baffles me. It’s one thing to voice your opinion about a company or system, but it’s an entirely different thing when you start calling 100 million people part of a cult just because they’re satisfied with something you’re not, or aren’t willing to “not buy the system in protest of demanding more power”. It ain’t that serious for most people. It’s really not. And attacking 100 million people for daring to enjoy what they have and like just reeks of self-righteous disdain for every single person here. You have no right to judge others for what they enjoy or don’t enjoy in this hobby.

If 100 million people like something and enjoy it as it is, and a small super vocal minority on the Internet insists they are wrong for liking what they like and are to blame for this and that (as if the switch in its current form is somehow “wrong” and requires “blame” anyways), from where I’m sitting, it’s not 100 million people behaving like a cult… you can always tell when someone is starting to become radicalized when they start attacking other gamers who don’t fall in line with their agenda or viewpoint. It’s no longer about sharing an opinion about a company or a game or system. When a person starts feeling hostility and resentment towards other gamers who are just enjoying the things they like, maybe that person is starting to take video games a little too seriously and it’s time to take a step back.

Time to get back on the hype train. This is a week for celebration. Metroid Dread is officially 48 hrs from release. Monster Hunter Rise Tetris theme as well. I'm about to go hard.

@Eel
Negative. But I washed my tennis shoes and they came out OK.

You could buy some carpet cleaner and scrub with a damp rag. I'd try that first. If you must wash it in the machine, maybe wrap it in something like a pillow case to cushion it being thrown around. And put a band around it to keep it shut. Wouldn't want it tearing or something.

@JaxonH That seems like a good idea. I'll place it inside an tied sock to keep it from flapping about inside the washer.

We don't have carpets so there's not much point in buying carpet cleaner for this reason alone.

Nintendo's managed to keep a consistent stream of stuff happening recently from game releases to Directs to new info on games outside Directs. Next up after Metroid Dread is the Animal Crossing Direct on October 15th.

Seeing all the good reviews is making me wanna try Dread. I’m going to buy it next month but I am starting to look forward to the purchase. Waiting on my amiibo to ship!!!!

Looking forward to the AC direct too. For one I'm off for bday shenanigans so I expect to be able to kick back and deweed my island.

I am noticing a trend. That people do not like Nintendo games getting 10/10's. Yet if it were a PlayStation game, it would be a different story.

@MsJubilee They get mad at 9s too. Apparently everybody is a shill/sheep/bootlicker/(is that all of the normal insults?). And considering the sliding scale thing where people act like 7-10 are the only numbers on the scale...the "true believers" are down to 7-8 (9 if is their favorite series...I guess)

While I may not always agree with NintendoLife's reviews, I feel it's misguided to say that any review of a Nintendo game on the site should dock 2 points to be accurate; by that metric, no Nintendo game should be better than an 8.
I'm really not a fan of numbered scores in general.

I never look at numbered scores personally; I just read the review. I want to know the experience the reviewer had. Because I like a wide range of games or am not bothered by certain things that may drive someone else batty (or am driven batty by something a reviewer might ignore), I just try to see if the experience the reviewer had might mean that I will at least somewhat enjoy the game. After that if the game is not made by a dev I trust, I watch some no commentary let's plays or if I'm lucky demo it via gamepass.

Numbered scores are pointless. They give the illusion of a consistent standard across the medium when, really, expectations diverse wildly based on genre and the experience of the developer. Moreover, games often excel in certain areas and not others, making it difficult to consistently score games on a 10-point scale without misrepresenting the quality of the game in certain regards.

Numbered scores traditionally simply convey how much you need a game in your library. I'm not sure where folk started to infer it was some measure of how good a video game is (like video games have fallen to some set, specific format.) 10/10 does not mean it's a perfect game. Just an essential purchase. I get SONY and AAA games tend to review like hollywood blockbusters, and can almost turn their nose up at a game just wanting to be a game. But honestly, if they revere gaming to be some sort of artform, why on Earth do they praise what is as boring as a landscape on a biscuit tin so highly? Art moved on from that decades ago! I dunno.

@GrailUK Is that a fair take though? If a game is a 10 but a genre you don't like, it isn't essential for your library. It just means that game is technically sound (which should be the main focus of a review and is often ignored for some reason) and then from there is enjoyable to the reviewer. I do agree at the game snob effect, as game discussion has devolved into a popularity contest with a few hot takes and lots of insults. Granted, it is a mainstream hobby so I'm wondering if articulate discussion was every truly the norm.

@Ryu_Niiyama Well, if it's a 10, it normally means even folk that don't like the genre have a good chance of liking it. Afterall, my eclectic taste in game genres stems from giving well reviewed games a try. But like you said, the main point of a review is to find a reviewer with a similar disposition to yourself. They are just opinions (and why a 10 can't mean perfect) so it makes sense to find someone you typically agree with. I used to like ZZap64 magazine that would have a main overview of the game, some score %ages and a couple of folk giving their opinion (which didn't always agree).