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JaxonH

@Pizzamorg
???

I'm aware. I never claimed there was, soooo... lol

I made a comparison to illustrate that resolution isn't the only method by which the quality of the viewed image can be improved.

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Pizzamorg

JaxonH wrote:

@Pizzamorg
???

I'm aware. I never claimed there was, soooo... lol

?

What are you talking about here then?

"It's definitely a substantial upgrade.

The whole reason ppl want better resolution in games is because it improves the image you view. But there's more than one way to skin a cat, and OLED also provides a notable improvement to the image being viewed."

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skywake

Pizzamorg wrote:

I mean you say that, but the amount of images that show the original Switch being this like grey, washed out, mess while the OLED is this bright, super crisp/sharp screen. Maybe the OLED is that good, but I dunno what they have done to their OG Switch cause I can assure you, mine does not look like that. Like I am the first to talk about Switch limitations, but if you are Switch screen is grey and completely devoid of details, get that ***** repaired.

Believe it or not that is the gap between OLED and LCD. The problem is two fold, firstly your brain is pretty good at interpreting the "washed out" look of an LCD panel. In context it knows the darkest bit should be black so that's basically what you perceive. Of course you'll only really notice it's not when you have a point of comparison, like a bezel or a device using an OLED panel

Secondly, you're probably looking at comparisons between OLED and LCD panels on an LCD. So when the LCD panel looks particularly bad it's looking bad as a video of an LCD panel on an LCD panel. The OLED panel in comparison looks about the same as you'd expect an LCD panel to look like... because you're looking at that image on an LCD panel.

If you don't believe there's a gap go to a tech shop and walk through the TV section. Have a look at the OLED panels which are probably showing some super high contrast demo images. Then look at the LCDs which... will probably be showing some sports or something making it a hard comparison. But even with that poor comparison? You should still be able to see how big a gap it is in terms of contrast

Edit: Oh, and @JaxonH is talking about the image being displayed not the resolution. The image is about more than the number of pixels and the level of graphical detail. There's also the peak brightness of the display, the level of contrast, the pixel response time, the refresh/framerate, the colour depth, the colour space, the colour accuracy etc, etc.... OLED panels generally outperform LCD panels on most of these metrics

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JaxonH

@Pizzamorg
I made a comparison to illustrate that resolution is not the only method by which quality of the image can be improved.

The comparison pointed out that, typically people laser focus on resolution. Why? Because it improves the image. And then stated that, guess what? There are other means by which the image can be improved. OLED is one of those means. Color, contrast, luminous intensity, etc, are all factors which can contribute to improved image quality.

I was simply trying to point out that resolution isn't the only aspect that matters.

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Pizzamorg

skywake wrote:

Pizzamorg wrote:

I mean you say that, but the amount of images that show the original Switch being this like grey, washed out, mess while the OLED is this bright, super crisp/sharp screen. Maybe the OLED is that good, but I dunno what they have done to their OG Switch cause I can assure you, mine does not look like that. Like I am the first to talk about Switch limitations, but if you are Switch screen is grey and completely devoid of details, get that ***** repaired.

Believe it or not that is the gap between OLED and LCD. The problem is two fold, firstly your brain is pretty good at interpreting the "washed out" look of an LCD panel. In context it knows the darkest bit should be black so that's basically what you perceive. Of course you'll only really notice it's not when you have a point of comparison, like a bezel or a device using an OLED panel

Secondly, you're probably looking at comparisons between OLED and LCD panels on an LCD. So when the LCD panel looks particularly bad it's looking bad as a video of an LCD panel on an LCD panel. The OLED panel in comparison looks about the same as you'd expect an LCD panel to look like... because you're looking at that image on an LCD panel.

If you don't believe there's a gap go to a tech shop and walk through the TV section. Have a look at the OLED panels which are probably showing some super high contrast demo images. Then look at the LCDs which... will probably be showing some sports or something making it a hard comparison. But even with that poor comparison? You should still be able to see how big a gap it is in terms of contrast

I ain't arguing the gap, I am just saying that the LCD screen is perfectly fine as it is. The OLED itself and the very minor adjustments just aren't worth it to me no matter how hard people try and argue the benefits of OLED to me. If it is enough for you, then that is great because then you are who this is for.

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JaxonH

I don't think anyone's trying to forcefully cram the benefits of OLED as being worth it to anyone else but themselves. The benefits and improvements are there. Whether someone personally feels they're worth upgrading for is only a question they can answer.

I know I'm not trying to convince anyone else to buy one. But I am excited for it. It's a very high quality upgrade and I've been ready for a new Switch model for some time.

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He was pierced for our transgressions

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Pizzamorg

JaxonH wrote:

I don't think anyone's trying to forcefully cram the benefits of OLED as being worth it to anyone else but themselves. The benefits and improvements are there. Whether someone personally feels they're worth upgrading for is only a question they can answer.

I know I'm not trying to convince anyone else to buy one. But I am excited for it. It's a very high quality upgrade and I've been ready for a new Switch model for some time.

I was addressing more the deceptive side by sides, where someone uses a completely blown out OG Switch next to an OLED model and then says "INSANE UPGRADE!". And it is like... maybe it is an upgrade, but you're making it look like the existing Switch is completely unusable and that just isn't true.

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JaxonH

@Pizzamorg
I don't think that's anyone's intention. The current Switch is most definitely not unusable. I've used mine for 4.5 years and love it.

But the differences are real. The pics aren't intentionally blowing anything out. That's just how current Switch is compared to OLED. The difference is evident in a side by side. But if you're just playing current Switch it'll look fine.

I don't think the message is, "current Switch is garbage, this is a must have upgrade". The message is, "current Switch is fine, but when compared to the OLED the advantages are clear".

Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

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Pizzamorg

Yeah maybe, games media and the modern generation of clickbait and rageclickbaiting has made me cynical. Maybe it is completely innocent but I've long since lost my trust. All I see is a lot of grey, washed out, borderline unusable screens displayed for the original Switch and I'm like looking down at my Switch in my hands like... ??? what is wrong with their screen? They should get that serviced.

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Pizzamorg

Link-Hero wrote:

@Player_One
I see you're not familiar with Anti's "preferences". Well, all you need to know is he only likes to play games with cutesy graphics and nothing more. Whether the game is good or not doesn't matter in the slightest to him.

Is that the person that says R-Rated products are evil? Or is that someone else?

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JaxonH

@Link-Hero
Whether the game is good or not doesn't matter in the slightest to him

I noticed

Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

Switch Friend Code: SW-1947-6504-9005

JaxonH

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Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

Switch Friend Code: SW-1947-6504-9005

Pizzamorg

Link-Hero wrote:

@Pizzamorg
Yup, that's the guy. He also doesn't think very highly of you if you do play any game with an adult rating.

This actually me laugh out loud.

Man, I love being on this forum. There are some great characters on here.

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JaxonH

Pizzamorg wrote:

Link-Hero wrote:

@Pizzamorg
Yup, that's the guy. He also doesn't think very highly of you if you do play any game with an adult rating.

This actually me laugh out loud.

Man, I love being on this forum. There are some great characters on here.

Or if you mention emulation in any way, shape or form, for any reason, even if not for piracy. I made the mistake of mentioning I modded my [redacted for safety of the chat] and... hooo boy. Anyone who was here back then can attest to the circus which ensued shortly after.

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Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

Switch Friend Code: SW-1947-6504-9005

Pizzamorg

JaxonH wrote:

Pizzamorg wrote:

Link-Hero wrote:

@Pizzamorg
Yup, that's the guy. He also doesn't think very highly of you if you do play any game with an adult rating.

This actually me laugh out loud.

Man, I love being on this forum. There are some great characters on here.

Or if you mention emulation in any way, shape or form, for any reason, even if not for piracy. I made the mistake of mentioning I modded my [redacted for safety of the chat] and... hooo boy. Anyone who was here back then can attest to the circus which ensued shortly after.

Haha, so if I emulate a horror game, have I committed the ultimate offence?

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Player_One

I’ve not been here long but sounds scary

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Ryu_Niiyama

Hmm eshop wish list has a weird cut off: 394

Guess I better go shopping.

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JaxonH

@Ryu_Niiyama
At least the game library you can hold doesn't have a weird cut off, cause I'm definitely past that.

Back on 3DS you were limited to 300 installs. Anything beyond that would bump out the oldest install and cause it to not show up. But uninstall a game, and suddenly that hidden game would reappear. So it was there, it just wouldn't render its icon. Thankfully 300 was almost exactly perfect for how many games on 3DS I had (about half were VC for GBA and SNES). But there's no way that would fly on Switch.

Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

Switch Friend Code: SW-1947-6504-9005

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