Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Grumblevolcano
It wasn’t meant to be an exhaustive list, nor a list of only official confirmations. Just a highlights reel of games that are 2021 or are almost certain to be 2021. Unlike Bayonetta 3 or BotW2, Silksong is 95% sure to release next year, as is New Pokémon Snap.

Hitman 3 could “belong”, but being a cloud version of a game few have shown interest in seemed to not really warrant being a highlight. If it were Cyberpunk, then I think it’d be a highlight since a great many people would be interested, given it would be the best performing console version and all 😉

(For real though, they should release Cyberpunk on Switch via cloud- I’ll still play on PC with gyro aiming and Raytracing, but I bet a ton of non-PC gaming Switch owners would be interested).

We’re eatin’ good in 2021. Real good. So good, in fact, you might need a name change as your tummy actually stops grumbling like a volcano.

@JaxonH Pretty sure CDPR is going to bury Cyberpunk and pretend it never existed after everything that's going down. Doubt we'll see a cloud version.

As for what my personal highlights are, I'd say Sports Story and Axiom Verge 2 are both ones I'm super looking forward too in addition to that list. Also Balan Wonderworld, Lego Star Wars, Cyber Shadow, Digimon Survive...

Nintendo could release nothing next year and I'd be fine with that. I mean, I'd be utterly confused as to what they're doing and probably complain, but I'd be fine.

@link3710 You don't spent $300+ million on a game that is your only major product for the next several years and then "bury" it because of performance complaints about it on primarily last-gen consoles. CDPR has no choice BUT to fix it and push it as aggressively as possible.

I think what'll happen with Cyberpunk is the Fallout 76 setup, it'll get put on Game Pass to recover from the awful launch while the game is fixed and then CDPR get bought by Microsoft because Microsoft buys studios for the sake of buying studios.

@Ralizah But as GrumbleVolcano pointed out, isn't that exactly what Bethesda did with Fallout 76? I haven't heard a peep about that game since launch, and the player base has tanked (at least on Steam). CDPR also has potentially screwed up their relationship with Sony thanks to this, which would seem to me to be more pressing to fix

@Grumblevolcano Remember CDPR are bigger than just being a developer/publisher. They also own GOG which though not Steam big, is a fairly large storefront and I imagine rakes in a fairly hefty amount of money. Also they aren’t a private company like Bethesda was so it’s not as easy as walking into a meeting with a briefcase of cash and shaking hands for a few hundred/billion dollars. I’m not sure Microsoft would want a company like CDPR. Dunno to me it seems like the kinda business Microsoft would be better off not buying.

Well, they seem to be fixing the game ... We'll have to see how it goes but certainly no sign of it getting quietly buried yet

Ya, it’s a disaster but, one thing they’re not doing is burying the game. It’ll probably take a full year before it’s in the state it should be, and it definitely will have lost sales as a result. But that’s precisely why releasing a cloud version on the Switch might be a smart move. They’ve already got the PC version. May as well.

I just think it would be funny if Switch had the best performing console version lol 😂

Ooh man, the Monster Hunter hype train stops for no one! They just dropped the Switch Axe and Great Sword trailers (officially, this time). Can’t wait to see the hunting horn and charge blade again.

@JaxonH i see, at least i expect and hope 2021 to be year that surpass or be compared to 2017/2019 the best year for Switch(looking very likely to happen).

@Giancarlothomaz
Monster Hunter Rise ALONE makes 2021 surpass all previous years (for real- as much as I love Zelda BotW, Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey, I’d trade all 3 in for Monster Hunter without thinking twice).

But having all those other games on top of it just seals the deal. Especially since instead of Mario Odyssey, we’re getting Super Mario 3D World (an equally amazing 3D Mario), and instead of Zelda BotW we’re getting its sequel.

Getting a new exclusive Monster Hunter, Bravely Default, Shin Megami Tensei, Monster Hunter Stories and Rune Factory all in the same year is pretty impressive. Those are all key 3rd party franchises that put 3DS on the map.

@link3710

???

1) CDPR isn't Bethesda.
2) Bethesda has/had multiple major projects going all the time; CDPR appears to have put all of its eggs in one basket for the time being.
3) The issues with FO76 are far more... er... fundamental in the game design than Cyberpunk. The PC version of Cyberpunk continues to be pretty popular.
4) Bethesda has continued support of FO76.

Nothing is getting "buried."

Cyberpunk will become the next No Man's Sky eventually - it'll be really really good in a year or two. Which is absolutely insane to say for a video game that people already purchased at full price; "Yea, it's borderline unplayable right now and you've already given us 60 bucks, but hey, just wait a year and you'll love it!"

The state of video gaming. And it all started with horse armor lol

@JaxonH Aside from crowing Sony fanboys, I think most of us knew the series would probably continue in some form on portable systems. Capcom wasn't just going to leave money on the table by ignoring the portable market. With that said, I was afraid they would model the new portable games after Generations and we'd get more uninspiring, nostalgia-driven experiences aimed at the hardcore MH fanbase while the home console games continued to go big.

But that doesn't seem to be the case. Rise might be a bit of a sidegrade compared to World, but it's a MASSIVE step up from the 3DS entries, which is all I really care about.

Also, I tend to believe the leak which suggests the game won't end up being a Switch-exclusive. With that said, it's coming to the system first, and was built with the specs of the Switch in mind, so that's all that really matters.

@Ralizah
I believe it too, but it’s still Switch exclusive. Full exclusive for nearly a year and console exclusive afterwards. It’ll never be available on PS/Xbox. It takes a lot of faith to do that for a AAA entry of your best selling franchise. Low budget handheld entries? Sure, that’s one thing. But this is a massive gesture of faith on behalf of Capcom (I’d argue a late PC port is basically a must now for any AAA game, especially exclusives, to remain financially viable). But yes, built for the system is what counts, and in more ways than one. The gameplay itself is designed around portable play sessions that can jump into the action faster, if desired. As far as I’m concerned, the Resident Evil Switch and Neo: TWEWY are essentially as good as exclusives. Built for the system is what matters (It’s just that, usually that only happens when a game is exclusive... usually)

Rise is about as AAA as MH can get for the hardware without taking massive hits in visual fidelity. I’m very pleased with the results. I had envisioned a game about on par with PS3 fidelity. But they’ve surpassed that. It’s strange, but going back and looking at PS3 games makes one realize that we’re actually a fair bit beyond the capabilities of that system.

@JaxonH Never say never. Capcom's plans for MH Rise once the timed exclusivity ends could depend dramatically on how well it sells on Switch. I think it'll do well, but Capcom seem to have sky-high expectations, so if it doesn't hit their marks, they might look to expand to other platforms.

The Japanese audience is almost guaranteed for this one, but I really, really hope there's an upwelling of support for the Western Switch release. If this doesn't become the system's best-selling third party game, then something is very wrong.

But yeah, it looks REALLY good in footage. It remains to be seen how well that transfers to the actual product once it's out, but the game looks deceptively like MH World to my untrained eye. If anything, it looks nicer: I prefer the character designs for this one.

@Ralizah
There’s always a chance anything could happen- never say never to anything, but if even the leaks suggest that’s not their plans, then I have to believe it’s because they’re just not interested. As with World, “we never even considered it for Switch”, I think it’s likewise with Rise. They never even considered it for PS/Xbox. For a variety of reasons, but notably players would say it “doesn’t look as good as World”, which it technically doesn’t, and while that’s fine for Switch, it could damage the brand among the graphics snobs elsewhere, whom they must cater to.

Even if it fails to land in the west, it’ll still, at the bare minimum, do 4 million in Japan total. Maybe more, but let’s say 4. And if MHGU can do over 1 million in the west, I’m sure Rise can do at least 2. So at a worst case scenario, MH Rise hits 6 million and matches Iceborne sales, and all from a single platform. Throw in another 4 million PC sales a year later, and we’re looking at 10 million on 2 platforms as a reasonable worst case scenario.

At best, it takes Animal Crossing to task in Japan and hits 6 million, and manages to squeeze an extra million from the west (again, over time- this won’t be after one week on the market) we could be looking at 9 million Switch, 5 million PC a year later, and it could come dangerously close to matching World’s insane sales, all from 2 platforms and despite the sales trends falling back in line with Iceborn.

But ya, it does seem the west is suspiciously ignorant concerning this game. Almost as if many people are resentfully ignoring it, intentionally hoping it fails. And it is for that very reason I hope it smashes records. When World was released I wasn’t happy about it skipping Switch, but I got on board the hype train with the quickness. Seems when the tables are turned though, there’s a lot of “let’s just pretend it doesn’t exist”. The good ol’ ostrich approach. I am curious where the fierce legion of 3DS hunters has gone. It’s like the game is fighting to get attention on social media with anyone (barring YT- it’s done pretty well there). I don’t get it.

I remember World took off by word of mouth when the demo hit. I’m hoping that’s going to prove the case with Rise, as well. If enough of us are all playing the demo in January, and media are talking about it favorably, a lot of casual bystanders will have their interest piqued. There’s a whole lot of gamers out there that don’t follow things that closely, but when they hear buzz about a hot new game, they come to see what all the fuss is about.

And a fuss we shall give them!

@JaxonH the horse armor was a TES:Oblivion “scandal”.

@Ryu_Niiyama
I remember horse armor in Dragon Age Inquistion. Perhaps the memes stemmed from beforehand, but I do recall the whole debate flaring up (perhaps again) over it.

https://www.gamesradar.com/dragon-age-inquisition-dlc-spoils-...

@JaxonH https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/horse-armor