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Grumblevolcano

@link3710 Probably Iceborne, previous "Ultimate" versions of MH could've easily been just DLC added to the base game which is what Iceborne is for MH World.

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IceClimbers

Crysis Remastered is available for preload on the US eShop. Releases July 23rd.

EDIT: The release date has actually been delayed, but Switch preload is still live.

[Edited by IceClimbers]

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JaxonH

@Grumblevolcano @Magician @link3710
Ya I mean MH World Iceborn. It’s the “Ultimate” version for MH World, they just didn’t call it that. I tend to use MH World Ultimate so people understand what I’m talking about (a lot of people don’t play the games and only know that traditionally there’s a base game, then an ultimate version).

If you look at all the evidence

  • Insider who first leaked MH World says a MH Switch is in development
  • Another respected insider says it’s coming (can’t remember name)
  • King Zell said it’s coming
  • 39th Annual Capcom Shareholder Meeting: “we would like to continue to series on Switch”
  • 41st Annual Capcom Shareholder Meeting: “We have something in the works for the portable audience”
  • MH Gen Ultimate director teases NEXT game.
  • Common sense- MH4U and MHGen, low budget entries on one system did 4-5m, with MHW Ultimate, a super AAAA entry on 3 systems did 5-6m (the lightning in a bottle sales of the base game were not repeated). Nearly every game on Switch is outselling past entries on previous Nintendo hardware. Even MHGenUlt, a port of a game which already sold to the Nintendo audience, which itself was an expansion of a game already sold to the same audience (so 3rd time selling a variation of the same game, 2nd time selling the exact same game) did about 1/3 the numbers of MH World Ultimate, but on a single platform while MHW Ult was on 3 platforms.

Point being, the potential for immense success can not be overstated. If we’re seeing similar results, pound for pound, from a 3DS game ported and sold for the 3rd time using an older formula without marketing as an insanely-high budget AAA game with massive marketing, just imagine what a new, exclusive game built ground up could do. I’m willing to bet it could match MH World Ultimate sales of 5-6m all from a single system. Surely they realize that. Perhaps when the base game of MH World was first released and kept doing massive record breaking numbers, they could have had delusions of never needing to release elsewhere, but now that it’s clear that was a fluke, and the majority of those sales were not repeated even despite selling the Ultimate version as upgradeable DLC for the first time ever, they have to see that sales on Nintendo will give the biggest bang for buck, return-wise. Will never hit the insane numbers of the MHW base game, but I don’t think any future MH release will either.

Personally, I look back at MH World and note that it took about 4 years after the release of MH4U. I figure if it takes about the same for a Switch version, it’ll be around 2021. Perhaps they also increased budget and scope as the success of World warranted more investment in future entries, so it really will take that long for a proper new entry. Which means I expect to see something announced by e3 time next year. Maybe sooner, who knows, maybe later with C19 going on. But that’s my estimated time frame.

Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced

Grumblevolcano

June 2020 onwards for Switch kind of reminds me of January 2018 before the Nintendo Direct Mini happened. The desperation for Nintendo to say something about the future of Switch and Nintendo somewhat trolling over the silence.

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JaxonH

Trails of Cold Steel III is out now, and it’s so good. This is a JRPG that shouldn’t be ignored. It may not be the best JRPG I’ve ever played like Xenoblade was, but if that’s the standard, everything will fall short. It’s gosh dang good, and definitely rises above the B-tier of Tales games into solid A-tier territory.

@Grumblevolcano
Ya, I’m not too worried about it.

We just got a record onslaught of games (it was a mania- Wonderful 101 to 3 Bioshocks, 3 Borderlands, XCOM 2, Xenoblade, Clubhouse Games, Trails of Cold Steel 3- all amazing, top shelf titles), with Catherine Full Body, Bloodstained Curse of the Moon 2, Crosscode, Deadly Preminition 2 (graphically it’s an abomination and yet, I couldn’t stop watching the gameplay segment it was so intriguing), Story of Seasons Friends of Mineral Town, Warhammer Mechanicus and Paper Mario all right around the corner. Would say Crysis Remastered but that was just pushed back.

After Paper Mario, though, they’re gonna have to reveal something. We still need a date for Bravely Default 2, and we’re pretty sure Mario Collection, Mario 3D World and possibly even Pikmin 3 will slide in to the 2nd half of the year. I’m thinking there’s not going to be many surprises, so I imagine a number of people will feel disappointed with this year overall. And I respect that. But I’m good. I’ve got a tower of Switch games piling higher by the week. I’m just gonna go with the flow.

Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced

Heavyarms55

So which do you guys prefer? Some Switch games will bring up the controller select screen automatically when going between TV and portable mode, while others will just take input from either the attached joycon or the pro-controller - while leaving the pro-controller on.

What I mean is, say I'm playing Pokemon on TV mode, using a pro controller, if I pick up the Switch, while it has joycon on the console, I can seamlessly keep playing with the joycon. But for other games, it will bring up controller menu and prompt me to choose a controller - and if I switch to the joycon, this will turn the pro controller off.

Personally, I prefer the seamless transition, it's why I leave joycon on the console at all times. But I can see the merit for the other option, so you aren't wasting battery on the pro-controllers too.

I also can find no pattern for which games ask you to switch controller, and which ones continue seamlessly.

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DenDen

This sounds amazing can’t freaking wait

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Dicey Dungeons
UnderMine
Steamworld Quest

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NEStalgia

Still trying to figure out what to spend my remaining vouchers on. I have 3 weeks left for 2 of them. XC1 is a given already. Paper Mario... Beyond that my options are Daemon X machina, Mystery Dungeon 1, and TMS #FE. I've ruled out Bayo2...the joycons can't take it.

The NL review of DxM was so-so, and my experience with the demo was a mixed bag. Mystery Dungeon games are adorable but the NL review was pretty down on it, citing repetition. And TMS #FE is one of my all time favorite games ever, but I did already play it heavily so it's not new to me like the others. I have 4 vouchers....so with Paper mario and XC already a lock, that means between Mystery Dungeon, DxM, and TMS#FE I can get 2 of the 3. Unless they surprise us with another voucher game next week...which I doubt.

Which of those would you guys suggest getting/not getting?

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Grumblevolcano

@NEStalgia Well how much time is left for the other 2 or are the 2 with 3 weeks left the ones remaining after getting XC1 and Paper Mario?

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BruceCM

One voucher is to get 2 games .... Can't say much about the others (although Bayonetta 2 is amazing, if you liked the 1st, at least) but TMS FE Encore is great, @NEStalgia

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link3710

@NEStalgia Mystery Dungeon is great. Every game in the series has gotten a 6/10 review, so if you enjoy it don't let that hold you back.

TMS#FE is also never a bad choice, especially if you enjoy Persona. It's weird and quirky and rather charming and I need to find time to finish it.

link3710

NEStalgia

@Grumblevolcano About 4 weeks for the other 2....I think it was July29 or 30 or so for 2 of them.

@link3710 Good to know about Mystery Dungeon. I only played the one on 3DS. I never finished it but that's because it's such a lengthy game. If this one is good as well but still got a bad review, I'll probably like it. Maybe that's in. So it comes down maybe to DxM vs. TMS#FE.....DxM is new to me while TMS#FE is a replay, but I adore TMS#FE while DxM seems very "B tier".

@BruceCM Yeah, I played Bayo1 and 2 on WiiU as well and I love the series, and really would like to go through it again, but given my 4 broken joycon sets....and the fact that bayo+Splatoon managed to yield drift on a GamePad as well...I'm not subjecting my poor joycon to that series. Astral chain was bad enough.

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JaxonH

Trails of Cold Steel III Review from a newcomer to the series.

[Edited by JaxonH]

Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced

KryptoniteKrunch

Glad to hear playing the previous games isn't as crucial as some make it out to be. The story summary will suffice for me. Definitely picking up Cold Steel 3 when I knock out some of the backlog.

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DenDen

Must have for me @JaxonH

Now playing
Nexomon
Dicey Dungeons
UnderMine
Steamworld Quest

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JaxonH

It’s a really great game. I had played the demo through, then transferred my save over and continued from there once I finished Xenoblade (though I am out with C-19 and trying to finish Future Connected atm). The summary walks you through chapter by chapter, plot point by plot point for the two previous games. So while it won’t be exactly the same as having played them, you certainly won’t be lost with what’s going on. Plus, human beings are very good at picking up on cues and disseminating events through context. And there’s so much lore available in-game (such as at the library) that recounts Erebonian history and the events that have shaped the political landscape.

Game seems to be flying under the radar, but it’s so good I think it deserves more attention than it’s getting.

Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced

NEStalgia

@JaxonH I was going to get it, but Yorumi and others in the comments thread really convinced me that it's absolutely best not to start with III and to play I & 2 first. I'll still get it someday, but they were convincing enough that I'm not going to jump in until I someday (someday!) get around to playing 1 & 2 on PS (or PC.... ) . I'll have to buy them next time they're on a sale. It has the summary, but the way it was described, this series has one of the best developed world building arcs of any series, and it's really worth it to play it through complete. I want to jump in on III....but I feel like I'm spoiling myself of a special series if I do it that way.

You have spare time. Lots and lots and lots of spare time..... And it's on Steam....sooo.....

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JaxonH

@NEStalgia
I think you’ll get more out of it if you play previous games, for sure, but by no means do I think it’s a big deal. I think some people have tried to over play that card as gatekeepers in a knee-jerk reaction seeing predominately PlayStation series coming to switch and looking for any reason to downplay its appeal (“oh ya it’s great, but you didn’t play every single game leading up to it so don’t even bother, just ignore it” or “go play multiple other games first just to get 15% more out of it than the recap will give you” knowing full well most people will then not bother... it’s nonsense). Not that there isn’t a credible argument in there, it’s just over blown. There are previous events that you should be aware of, but the story recap really does fill you in. It’s basically like the developer’s story card. It covers all the pertinent previous events, just without long cutscenes and 100 hrs worth of battles.

But if you really do want the fullest experience possible then by all means, play all in order. I am definitely not arguing against that. Only emphasizing that it’s not necessary nor is it as important as some have tried to portray as a requisite to enjoy this one. If there wasn’t a recap that literally walked you through the plot points chapter by chapter I might agree, but there is, so people really aren’t missing anything major.

I guess it just comes down to, do you want to enjoy this game, or do you want to enjoy the series as a whole? If you just want to enjoy this game, you’ll be fine playing this game. If you want to enjoy the entire series, then play the entire series. It just comes down to what you want. But by no means will you enjoy this game significantly less without playing the previous games.

Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced

BruceCM

I think it's just very difficult for those fans of the series, especially who've been fans since the previous trilogy, to imagine what it'd be like jumping in here
Let's hope they do manage to bring at least ToCS I&II to Switch....

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NEStalgia

@JaxonH You might be right....but in this case I'll trust based on the merits of the sources....not PS fanboys but rather the opposite. Folks like Yorumi and yourself know your games and aren't into platform-ism and gatekeeping...you guys know your stuff....I'll trust his word that its worth it

Just using my own experience with long series that I would probably advise people to play the full series first, I can get a feel for what I might miss out on. If the world building really is so great in this series...theres probably something to that. Big deep long contiguous stories in games or television are very very rare.....I think I'd regret not savoring that.

IF I can resist temptation long enough, that is.....because I'm doing P5 before this on PS, and that not until Winter. And I want to play NOW! But I don't want to spoil myself something I'll regret not appreciating better later! I have to repress the inner 2-year old screaming to play it.

I won't trust his input on Pokemon, ever, though

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