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RR529

@StuTwo, actually they did try to reboot Uncle Buck as a TV series, I think last year, but it flopped. EDIT: it was actually back in 2016.

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JaxonH

And I agree with you: online should be free. Most of us around here think that. But guess what: Nintendo decided it's not free on their console. So you either pay for it or walk away from it and play for free on a PC or something. It's up to you

Couldn’t agree with this statement more. Everybody here agrees online should be free. But that’s not the way it is, and it hasn’t been that way for years. Complaining about it like it’s the morning’s breaking news isn’t going to solve the issue. Accept it and pay for it, or don’t accept it and don’t pay for it. It truly is up to you.

Most people agree with shouldn’t be paying income taxes. Income tax didn’t exist before the 20th century. It’s a relatively new thing. But every since 1913, we’ve been paying income tax on top of sales tax and property tax. It’s double taxation. Your money gets taxed once when you earn it and again when you spend it. People just accept it as normal, but it wasn’t always like that. Paying income tax to the IRS has only been around for 100 years or so.

But there’s no sense in complaining about it now. That’s just the way it is and it’s not going to change. You don’t have to like it, but if you choose to earn money legitimately you’re going to have to pay the tax. No ifs, ands or buts. It is what it is. Same goes for online subs. It is what it is. That’s just the way it is and it’s not going to change. Wasting breath on what it “should be” is exactly that... wasting breath.

If someone wishes to harness their frustration into something constructive, however, I would advise voting with your wallet, and making your voice heard on official social media accounts. You’re not going to change it, but you can at least make a case for better value.

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Shadowthrone

JaxonH wrote:

But there’s no sense in complaining about it now. That’s just the way it is and it’s not going to change. You don’t have to like it, but if you choose to earn money legitimately you’re going to have to pay the tax. No ifs, ands or buts. It is what it is. Same goes for online subs. It is what it is. That’s just the way it is and it’s not going to change. Wasting breath on what it “should be” is exactly that... wasting breath.

If someone wishes to harness their frustration into something constructive, however, I would advise voting with your wallet, and making your voice heard on official social media accounts. You’re not going to change it, but you can at least make a case for better value.

If only I could vote with my wallet on taxes too by just not paying them

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Toy_Link

July’s NPD Data has been released
Here’s the top 20 in the US
1. Madden NFL 20
2.Fire Emblem: Three Houses
3. Super Mario Maker
4. Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3:The Black Order
5. Minecraft
6. Grand Theft Auto 5
7. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
8. Mortal Kombat 11
9. Mario Kart 8
10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
11. Marvel’s Spider-Man
12. Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six: Siege
13. Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII
14. Crash Team Racing: Nitro Fueled
15. Red Dead Redemption 2
16. Tom Clancy’s The Division 2
17. MLB 19: The Show
18. New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe
19. NBA 2K19
20. Assasin’s Creed Odyssey
Fire Emblem Three Houses is the biggest launch for the series in US History and already the second best selling title in the series (in the US), just behind Awakening.

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EvilLucario

Fire Emblem's success is awesome to see. Hopefully it has good legs and lasts for the rest of the generation.

Damn fine game all around and discussion around the story is extremely engrossing to read too. Just a ton of things to unpack with the game, really.

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JaxonH

Fire Emblem topped U.K. charts for 2 weeks, yet it practically topped the US charts for the entire month. I hear it’s already the second best selling game in the series (3rd if you combine Fates sales into one). But that’s not bad for only being out on the market two weeks. Not to mention, Nintendo confirmed that 63,000 of the 180,000 launch sales for FE Awakening were digital. That’s like 33%. And the percent of digital sales on Switch should be even higher, especially considering the voucher program (particularly in Japan).

And since only physical sales are being counted for Three Houses right now, that bodes extremely well for the total sales. And it should be noted, FETH is still like #11 on Amazon US. The game has kept incredible momentum since launch. Excellent word-of-mouth and high reviews spreading like wild fire. Those sales are going to be evergreen as the 3DS fanbase buys into Switch over the coming year with New model Switch and LiteSwitch + Pokémon/Animal Crossing. And that’s where a large portion of the current fanbase lies. I see this game selling millions of copies for years to come. So happy seeing this franchise doing so well. Hopefully it’ll do 3-4 million lifetime, set a series record and garner an even higher budget for future entries.

@New_Guest
Never said there is no sense talking about it. Only that there’s no sense complaining about it. And nobody else is complaining except you.

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IceClimbers

Excellent to see such strong sales from Fire Emblem and Marvel.

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Therad

rallydefault wrote:

@New_Guest
Ok, here we go:

100 bucks over 5 years to play 30+ classic games is an EXCELLENT deal...

...for Nintendo, because they wouldn't have gotten $100 out of (almost) anyone for buying NES games as singletons. People would have bought the usual suspects and skipped the rest.

It is also not a good comparison, it is a false equivalence fallacy. Yes, The scream by Edvard Munch was bought by a collector for $120 millions, this doesn't make a poster of the painting for $1 million an EXCELLENT deal. When buying collectors items, you are buying more than just the game.
A better comparison would be the NES classic, $59.99 MSRP and you get the games forever.

But as usual, Nintendo can do what they want with their IPs and people can complain and/or vote with their wallet. The big problem is that people are very good at the first part, but downright awful with the latter. See "Paying for online"

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rallydefault

@Therad
Dude, you totally mangled my words. Hence the ellipses at the end of my quote that you decided to abruptly cut off. You're reducing my multi-sentence post to one clause to suit your narrow opportunity at a counter. Give me a fair shake next time and maybe I'll talk to you about it.

(Also, you're straight-up wrong about Nintendo hardly getting anyone to purchase 100 bucks worth of NES games standalone through eShop or some other single release format. The concept of "whales" doesn't just apply to free to play games. Lots of people on this board would probably admit to buying EASILY that many NES games if made available to them. The NES Mario and Zelda games alone would put you AT LEAST at 5 games or 25 bucks, over one year's worth of Online already. Overall would be 20 games to get you to 100 bucks assuming they are all 5 bucks, which they probably wouldn't be. That's not that many games.)

@New_Guest
It's fine to talk about things, but people like me who have been around here for awhile are just going to point out that pretty much all roads of talking lead to one conclusion: either you begrudgingly pay for the online or you don't. You COULD take things into your own hands and start a petition or go stand outside Nintendo HQ with a sign for a few days, but yea lol

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link3710

Room Service sounds like the kind of item that might make an impact on the competitive team. Eject Pack can turn moves like Overheat into pivots like Volt Switch, might be niche but I could see people working that into teams.

Pretty much everything they showed is viable competitively, which is nice. I want Corviknight now, he could shut down anyone with Intimidate or the likes pretty easily. Of course, it'll probably be too frail to make good use of that ability sadly.

In more casual news, Gastrodon's going to be naturally available for the first time since DPPT... I wonder how it's forms will work? We'll probably solely have West Sea this game if the past is anything to go by.

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Therad

rallydefault wrote:

@Therad
Dude, you totally mangled my words. Hence the ellipses at the end of my quote that you decided to abruptly cut off. You're reducing my multi-sentence post to one clause to suit your narrow opportunity at a counter. Give me a fair shake next time and maybe I'll talk to you about it.

(Also, you're straight-up wrong about Nintendo hardly getting anyone to purchase 100 bucks worth of NES games standalone through eShop or some other single release format. The concept of "whales" doesn't just apply to free to play games. Lots of people on this board would probably admit to buying EASILY that many NES games if made available to them. The NES Mario and Zelda games alone would put you AT LEAST at 5 games or 25 bucks, over one year's worth of Online already. Overall would be 20 games to get you to 100 bucks assuming they are all 5 bucks, which they probably wouldn't be. That's not that many games.)

Your "multi-sentance post" was a long comparison between a collector and the fictive $100 it would cost to have the NES readily available. I covered that even though I shortened the quotation. You can act offended or you can refute what I said, the choice is yours.

But if you look at the numbers, they have gotten 1 million people to subscribe to nso, they wouldn't have had that many people buying 20 NES games. The usual suspects (the five you mentioned) will be bought by many, but the others won't. Looking at the list they have, can you honestly say you would buy 20 games?

The reality is that Nintendo think this is the best way to earn money, and I agree.

And it still a bad policy to pay for online play. It would be interesting to see the sales of Splatoon 3, but it seems that won't happen.

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BougieBeetle

Look at it this way, friends: in about a hundred years (give or take), all the NES and SNES games will slide into the public domain, and everyone will be able to play and distribute them for free. Of course, most of us will be dead by then, but it's something.

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Ryu_Niiyama

Loving all the news about the FE sales. Zelda has a special place in my heart but if I had to turn off my bias, I'd say FE was my favorite franchise. (It is the only game that isn't a fighting game that I can repeat levels/matches over and over and not get bored). Makes me even more excited for the future.

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GameOtaku

@rallydefault
What would be so wrong with both services being up and running? (VC and Classic game rentals with nso)

My ideal solution would be a unified VC that's also tied into the classic rentals. $20 a year gets you access to all the games for a limited period of time like now but they are also available to non subscribers for purchase (let's be honest here if you don't play online nor have stable internet or like me no connection at all then you are not buying a nso sub) and since its ties to your account previous purchases from wiiu/3ds either transfer over free or with a one time upgrade fee.

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Grumblevolcano

Is changing NSLU to NSMBU movement style after completing the game exclusive to the Switch version? I don't remember it in the Wii U physical version.

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Ralizah

This looks pretty great. I wonder if we'll see it in the Direct on Monday?

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Dogorilla

@Grumblevolcano No, I played it on Wii U a few months ago and it had that. I didn't use it much though, it felt weird having Luigi move like Mario and it messed up some of the levels where you need precise jumps.

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