Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@NEStalgia Optical media is pretty outdated at this point.

@Tsurii

@Ralizah Sure, I mean other than that PS4 and X1 and PC and all movies still use it, it's totally outdated

I see what you mean but it's quite dominant

I don't think cartridges will ever return to being the norm, gaming outside of devices that can function as a handheld will probably continue being discs until digital/streaming only is an option.

They should switch discs out for some sort of USB type of physical media. that'd be pretty neat. But I'd never go full digital, as long as there's physical options.

@subpopz Isn't that the whole point of optical media? Getting data to customers in an inexpensive way.

@subpopz Me too. But, of course...it's cheap....so.....

I mean companies won't buy the right sized Switch card for a few bucks. Imagine telling them to drop optical entirely (unless moving them to digital only.)

Didn't PCs mostly ditch optical media anyway? I don't see a lot of PCs with a disc drive anymore.

@EvilLucario
My PC is still Old School (still have DVD Drive since 2010)

On the topic of storage, turns out PS4 RDR2 digital is infact 150GB.

@Grumblevolcano It's 99 GB. Physical game comes with two discs.

Source: https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/360010842353/Red-D...

Multiple discs again. FML!

@subpopz I'm not a fan of optical these days either, but it's steal cheap, available storage, while digital forces me to spend tremendously on HDDs that vary of speed and are easily unreliable (forcing you to download everything again.)

@Grumblevolcano Uhm....wait, what? That sounds wrong. X1X it's only 88GB. How is it 70% larger on the weaker platform?

Edit: Weird. Octanes link to the 2k site says 107 on X1. The X1 store itself says 88.......... Does nobody know the size?

@NEStalgia Check the link; 107GB on Xbox One, 99GB on PS4.

https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/360010842353/Red-D...

@NEStalgia The PS store says 89.2GB. Don't ask me

@EvilLucario Laptops ditch them. Entertainment PCs keep them. Productivity PCs still often use various discs at times. But external USB DVD drives kind of replaced the need for a 5.25 hardmount. Once upon a time USB slowed them down. Not that long ago really.

@NEStalgia I said outdated, not irrelevant. It's most relevant with movies. I rarely see discs used for almost anything regarding PC any more, though. Everything is digitally distributed, and most of the big software companies have transitioned to service-based models. And discs on modern gen consoles are little more than installation media. That can definitely be convenient for people without access to high-speed internet, or who have data caps, but it doesn't change the fact that the medium has long outgrown the limitations of optical media, and it'll only hold on as long as it remains a cheap options for distributing games at retail.

@Octane Yeah, PS store says 89.2, X1 stores says 88.57 (Oddly specific?) and Rockstar says 107 XBox and 99 on PS4.

I'm almost going to bet Rockstar is wrong. They know the size they submitted to the store, but they don't know what if any compression and all the specific stores might be applying. The stores should know their own in-archive size. Either that or they're including a Day1 patch that's not, as of yet, uploaded to the stores.

They're obviously getting everyone's bodies ready for some sweet, sweet day one downloads.

@HobbitGamer I already paid for it. Can I just get my day one download now? I know RDRII is "ZOMG ZOMG!!1!! GOTY! GOAT!! Best thing ever to revolutionize gaming will never be the same aaAAAaaAAA!" But I still don't comprehend how everyone deals with 2k's bloated obnoxious garbage. I can't help but think prepping to push 110GB to probably half of all XBox owners all in one week is the reason XBL store/purchase/licensing has been down 3 times in 2 weeks. I wonder if PSN is just going to crash hard under the last minute load? At least they were kind enough to put physical on two discs. Unfortunately it sounds like it still will have a 25GB day one patch on top of that.

maybe the 107 isn't the actual storage but how much is needed to complete install?