Honestly, I don't see the appeal of obsessively tracing the placement of every game in the Eshop based on preorder sales and launch sales. I mean, does it really matter?
I don't know if I am on topic or not but I have a question and I didn't find a more relevant topic.
Did anyone downloaded Valthirian Arc: Hero School Story? According to eshop list it released October 2th, but I don't find it on my eshop (fr). I searched for it on UK eshop too and zero results. Is that strange? Or I did something wrong? https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/10/nintendo_download_4t...
HUMMMM... Is it possible that the new version of the Switch will be available sooner than what we could expect ???
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@IceClimbers Much as I like XBox and want them to succeed with more exclusives, I"m not comfortable with their buying spree. They have a LONG history of destroying every studio they buy and this spree reminds me of EA's buyout fest a decade or so ago. We don't need more shuttered studios or studios working on project driven games....especially not Obsidian, the last great WRPG company left built of the relics of the old ones. They needed to build new studios, not buy and try to change other studios, in the classic MS way that has never gone well.
@Knuckles-Fajita I don't think it's a mistake. They want to end physical forever. That was the whole point of the XBone launch debacle: Openly declaring physical as nothing but an unlock key for the digital store. Like for Steam. They don't want to fit it on the disc, that doesn't further their agenda of ending discs. I'm not convinced PS5/X2 will even have a disc drive. I could easily see BC for digital purchases only. It's much too soon for that, and yet.....we're down to the most poplar games already being download only.
@JaxonH There haven't been many games that are the reasons people bought a Switch. They're games that appeal to the core/loyal base in the extreme (PS/XB/PC gamers that like portability on Switch) but not so much the broad market. Other than Octopath, there's been virtually nothing of merit this year save some third party games that appeal to the hardcore fans, and WiiU ports that appeal to everyone other than the hardcore fans that already played them. I think the lagging Switch sales is maybe a little bit Amazon, a little big digital shift (especially with game sharing now), but mostly: The software just hasn't been compelling to the entire market at once since December.
Civ6 is going to be EXTREMELY niche in the console space in general. That's just sooooo PC-hardcore as franchise and barely lives in the public mind. IMO that's a game wholly "for the fans" targeting the PC gamers who love Switch for portability. I think it'll deliver expected sales but I think they know their market isn't large to begin with. Plus....that really needs to be digital.... The masses will play Spidey and Tomb Raider and RDR and Pokemon. The nerdery of the Internet is excited for handheld deep simulation strategy PC games.
@IceClimbers Keep in mind the shift digital on the other platforms is largely induced by deep sales too. Everyone knows you can get older games from the current gen for $7-20 on sales digitally without looking around for scratched discs etc. And even new games. SotTR is 25% off digitally on X1 this week...the game's not even a month old and is the top advertising budget game on the platform. Amazon and friends no longer have physical discounts, and even when they did it was 5% more. Sony marks down first party games within month....HZD was half price in 3 months. The full collection with DLC has routinely been $20 in the past 5 months. Nintendo? BotW is still $59.99 on the eshop. It released the exact same week as HZD. Why go digital? (ok 5% credit... still beats Amazon...)
I actually wanted to double dip on TWEWY digital and physical. But that control schemel...no thanks I'll keep my discounted physical from the discount era.
@Cobalt If you mean the exceedingly obvious and long expected cut down handheld only low cost, child-proof Switch, sure, I could see it as early as Feb to give it plenty of buildup on the market for summer travel into holiday Pokemon.
If you mean a new premium Switch you've got a 2 year wait minimum.
@EvilLucario But the one Cobalt is talking about would be a New 3DS/PS4 Pro/Xbox One X enhancing / required for certain games style upgrade. Those are not that common.
@link3710 I'm aware. I don't think a better Switch in specs will happen until 2020 at the earliest. The PS4 Pro came out 3 years after and the New 3DS after like... 4 years?
But predicting there will be a revision is like saying the sun will shine. It's like, no **** dude. The 3DS and 360 had a LOT of revisions back in their day.
@NEStalgia Yeah definitely. Games like civ VI and xcom 2 are best with a mouse. They always feels iffy and cumbersome sadly. Those kind of games are my kind of jam really. And on that note, the new free XCOM DLC is out, bye!
@Therad I imagine CIv6 will suport the touch screen which really solves the mouse problem. It's still an incredibly limited market though compared to mainstream console games. As long as 2k has their sales expectations well grounded it'll be a success, but it won't be showing up on charts.
@NEStalgia I think Microsoft's going to have some tricks up their sleeves regarding X018. One of which being Civ VI with keyboard + mouse support for XB1 launching same day as the Switch version. Play Anywhere has been about bringing XB1 games to PC but with keyboard + mouse support coming to XB1, I think we'll finally see the reverse (bringing PC games to XB1).
Will this have an effect on the Switch? Maybe, mouse + keyboard vs. portability will be an interesting one
@Grumblevolcano Maybe, but I don't see that really shifting much of anything. Keyboard + mouse is one of those (to quote Reggie (gag)) "fan-forward" things that I don't understand why consoles haven't supported it for the past decade plus. But I don't see that making any kind of impact at all. Who does that appeal to exactly? Console gamers buy consoles because they like the convenience and the comfort of couch play and aren't going to be sold on sitting there with a keyboard in their lap and balancing a board on the arm of a chair to use with a mouse arm, and likely don't care about stat-heavy games like Civ, RTS's etc. PC gamers are already playing on the master hardware and will have no interest in becoming a console peasant to play the games they're already playing on better hardware just because they can use a keyboard now. So who actually cares about keyb+mouse on a console? People like me that used to be PC gamers but decided to simplify and cost cut but would love to get superior shooter controls back without the cost and hassle of PC. But I'm not a very large market
Ultimately the Switch version wins there. XBox owners probably aren't super into Civ and Starcraft, or playing Destiny with a keyboard. PC gamers aren't going to buy an XBox to keep playing Civ and Starcraft and Destiny on worse hardware. But PC gamers may want to buy a Switch to keep playing PC games away from the PC. Civ on the go is a PC gamer's dream. A weak PC with an X on it that sits next to heir PC isn't
@NEStalgia I guess my PS4 is more capable than my laptop at the moment, so I would buy a RTS on console if it had keyboard and mouse support. So I guess there are some people like me. I don't really care about most RTS games though, so I don't feel like I'm missing out. But if it was a game I wanted to play? Sure, why not? Could be a bit of a hassle to move the console around the house though... So on second thought, I don't really care
@Octane Yeah, laptop-only PC owners really aren't part of the whole gaming-scene unless you have an excessively powerful laptop (Weirdly the Microsoft Store keeps telling me all my Play Anywhere games are supported on my device when I use my Surface Pro.....I keep thinking how freaking bad is Horizon 4 going to run on a Surface Pro? I'm not even tempted to try it (nor do I have the onboard storage for it.)
But I'm not sure non-gaming-pc gamers are really the market for keyb/mouse games. Yeah we're that small group, and like you said once you think about the hassle, it gets less interesting. I'm super grateful they're including it, it should have been done ages ago, but I don't see it shifting players around or really opening new markets for games to sell in....the two camps don't have much reason to cross over in meaningful numbers. Unlike Switch that's "pretty good gaming on the go" even for PC Master Race players.
I've used a USB keyboard with my xbox a few times, but that's mainly for sending messages and when playing an MMO. Having to put down the controller to type is a bit of a pain. And I consider those chat pads to be stupid, and the buttons are way too freaking small. That said, the idea of using a mouse and keyboard to play a console game seems kind of silly to me. I mean, sure the mouse provides technically superior aiming over a controller in a fps. On the other hand, using a mouse to aim also means you can have your aimed ruined by things like a sneeze or being startled.
@NEStalgia We don't know how Civ VI will work in docked mode, if it can work in docked mode with normal controls then a potential XB1 version would also work with normal controls. Just the case of many people who buy it may want to play with mouse + keyboard.
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