Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@The64Master - I think a lot of people are bitter because of the rapid succession of 2D Mario games that came out in the beginning of the Wii U's lifespan. Which somehow, after 5 years, people are still bitter over. Which I do find amusing, since we've had shorter waits for more "dead" franchises and games before.

But real talk; 2D Mario is inevitable, but it would be interesting to see if Nintendo would plan a traditional Mario or maintain a service for a Mario Marker DX/2 to extend the length of those experiences. Though both will likely exist by the end.

I do personally think Nintendo should consider recycling some assets of Odyssey to make a 3D World 2. It would shorten a development time and approach a more multiplayer Mario experience (and doubles down the the Joy-Con sharing as well without another port), which is only a win-win regardless how against it SOME people are.

2D Mario can take a break, then show up sometime in 2019 to invigorate the series again.

I'd say '18, but Oddessy has the entire year covered. It'll be that good.

The main 2D Mario games can die, Mario Maker I would love for it to continue.

The fact that these console wars among fanboys even still exist is stupid. Having a preference for a particular platform is fine, but wishing for the collapse of any of them is rediculous. A gaming industry where Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, and PC all thrive is a good gaming industry.

As for 2D Mario, it really needs a break. It's becoming stale quickly, at least for me. 3D Mario definitely needs some time in the spotlight.

@KirbyTheVampire I agree. I always found myself getting rather bored when I pick up and play a NSMB game. It's just so-1985. I still love the original Mario 2D games, such as World, 2, 3 and the Original. You can also tell how much more care and love is put into the 3D games. The 3D games always, and I mean ALWAYS present new mechanics, worlds, enemies, bosses, characters, and more. The 2d Mario games: Goomba, Koopa, Bowser, Mario, Luigi, Peach.

@KirbyTheVampire - Not defending 2D Mario games here... But the wait gap between a 2D Mario is larger than that of the 3D one as of right now. But people act like we got one yesterday, but haven't seen a 3D Mario since Galaxy.

I'll only be purchasing multiplats or indies on Switch for the rest of the gen (although we'll see if my resolve breaks down in the face of Monster Hunter World), as I don't appreciate being tethered to a TV when I play a game.

Which makes it SO satisfying to see the Switch selling as well as it is.

...I consider 3D World a 3D Mario game, sooo...

@Paraka I feel like games like 3D world and 3D land could be great replacements for 2D mario. It was 3D, fun, and still kept that Mario-ish feel. Not to criticize 3D mario games, but they can sometimes feel a tad bit too realistic. Also, like you said, multiplayer 4 player Mario is rather crucial. I'm not going to be devastated if we never get a 4 player Mario, but it is always good to have the novelty of access to one on the Switch.

To be fair, 3D Land was also a generic Mario enemies game as far as I remember. Which ironically proves your point as it was STILL better than any of the NSMB games but was less interesting than the other 3D games.

@The64Master - I prefer 3D Mario games, namely cause the fake sense of freedom (which makes me excited for Odyssey), and control. Though I am personally not opposed to more 2D Mario games, I still think the way people are acting it like we just received NSMB2 and NSMBU ported to Switch last month.

Though they're likely to be existing as much as Mario Party 11 and Mario & Sonic Winter Olympics (calling it, next N-Direct will show it for February/March window). The discussion is when, not if. And if Mario Maker makes it out first I feel that we won't see a 2D Mario for a longer period of time.

I just liked the "3D" games because, unlike the 2D ones, they were still trying out new things. Keeping 2D mechanics while mixing in 3D gameplay, 3D World just expanded on it which was fine by me. (I mean, they did the same with Galaxy, so whatever)

I knew that Galaxy 3 wasn't happening, or another 3D World would happen...And I was right, once again they're doing new things with the enemy possession thing.

Then there's the 2D games...DS and Wii were fine, they brought back memories...But, after that, it was basically the same game over and over again...Same visuals/graphics, same bosses...SAME...FREAKING..."BAHS"!!! Even the giant Bowser final boss, that was epic seeing on Wii, is just...BORING! xD

@Joeynator3000 What I found rather funny was that they called NSMB U NEW Super mario bros u. It's not New after 6 years lol

@The64Master I suppose that's true if you count 3D World/Land as 3D Mario games, but to me they don't seem like true 3D Mario games, at least judging by what I've seen and heard. I haven't played them though, so I can't say for sure.

The main reason I think 2D Mario needs a break though, is because it's so hard to add new things to it. The series as a whole is starting to stagnate IMO, whereas 3D Mario has so much potential for new stuff.

I don't! It was still on rails similar to a 2d game. While I liked it more so then a straight up 2d game it still felt more 2d to me.

@KirbyTheVampire As I see it, the NSMB games only really had 1 purpose. To relive nostalgia. They delivered on it, yes, but NSMB should've been a 1 time thing. Also, I thought I'd mention that the latest classic-format Zelda games, such as Link between worlds, were great. Zelda is always expandable, regardless of the format.

I'd actually like a new 2D Mario soon. Something that blew me away like in 2009 when I first played NSMB. Or, at the very least... maybe a 3D World 2 or something akin to that.

@Vee_Flames I still feel that the past should be the past. Remastering games: great. Reimagining games: Great. Trying to simulate the original feel of an orignal game: meh. The NSMB games just didn't capture the charm and fun of the original 80's and 90's mario games.

Also,

WHERE'S VIRTUAL CONSOLE

@The64Master Eh... NSMB is easily my best DS game ever. Spent countless hours playing that game... figuring out every secret path, getting all the Star Coins, replaying each and every single level over and over and over again for no good reason, and refining my skills in the Mario vs Luigi mode. Oh, and those minigames! As a reimagination of the original games, I think it did a pretty good job. Like, seriously.
NSMBWii and NSMB2 took a tumble after NSMB (especially NSMB2. That game is just as shallow), but I felt NSMBU was NSMBWii, but much better to play. Now, if they could just introduce a new artstyle and some new fresh ideas for a new 2D Mario game, that would be awesome.

@The64Master - NSMB was pretty much the idea for reliving nostalgia. But honestly I cannot say the same for it's sequel. It attempted new things with the whole gold coin angle. Didn't work entirely too well, but it DID try something. Which is more than what I can say for NSMBU (excluding the Luigi addition, which I found was great).

The issue is attempting new things doesn't always mean it'll be good. Nintendo had their fare share of those the last couple years, so here to hoping if they'd make a new NSMB game for Switch, it'll do something entirely unexpected. Though I don't think it will.