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EvilLucario

I think they also said that the Xbox One X was also meant to be a "premium" option, not for the mass market appeal? I'm not sure on that so take that with a grain of salt without a source.

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MFD

@EvilLucario I daresay they did say that, at least I've red that as well.

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StuTwo

@Octane They can call it a PS5 or whatever they feel is the best option from a marketing perspective but it'll almost certainly build on the same architecture as the PS4 and play existing PS4 games.

I take a different view on the success of the PS4 Pro and the likely success of the XBox One X. There is a clear audience for those things. 20% of PS4 sales means there's a lot of PS4 Pro owners in the world already! Those owners are - almost by definition - wealthier and likely to buy more games. If you don't have the PS4 Pro you have nothing to up-sell those customers to and you're leaving their money on the table.

Just from an marketing perspective the PS4 Pro (and One X) have tremendous value. Why spend £100 million trying to convince the world that your console is the most powerful when you can just make your console the most powerful as an optional extra? With the added advantage that the customers will pay you for the privilege and the more powerful version is the one that reviewers and YouTubers will be using.

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Octane

@UmniKnight Hmm... That's new to me. Do you happen to have a source for that? I couldn't find any.

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Haruki_NLI

Given PSVR just got a proce drop, maybe a VR2?

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Octane

@BLP_Software What's there to improve though?

@UmniKnight Maybe the other pre-orders were absolutely awful? Anyway, difficult to say without any numbers, but I would be genuinely surprised if it becomes a huge success.

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Haruki_NLI

@Octane Isnt Vive Gen 2 coming next year?

Maybe VR 2 could use better screens or less cables? Better tech in general?

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Octane

@BLP_Software There's no point in higher res screens without a PS5. Best thing is to build the PS5 with that little VR box included, that would eliminate 4 cables, and all you have to do is plug the PSVR directly into your PS5.

Vive feels more like high-end tech that's quickly improving. PSVR is more aimed at a casual VR audience and I think that replacing it this soon would alienate a big chuck of that audience. The Vive can get away with it because it feels more like a 3D printer; expensive new tech that get replaced almost every year, and those buying the Vive are probably aware of that.

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Paraka

@EvilLucario - Actually no they can't sell a system at such a loss to undermine Nintendo. Sony is hemorrhaging money in practically all of their investments save from TVs (which has been a roller coaster) and their gaming, which has been dominant this gen. They cannot afford more losses so rapidly, investors would pull out and Sony doesn't need that.

Even if there is a hybrid announcement, sony cannot keep that up and the PS4 Pro simultaneously. They've proven multiple times they cannot multitask. They would have to prey the third party picks up the slack. And with third parties, they will probably just attempt to maximize profit as they did with Vita and sell consumers the same game twice... and looked how well that went over.

This doesn't happen with Nintendo due to the systems being drastically different. You practically HAVE to make a new game on the 3DS if you want that version to even exist. Sony knows they couldn't replicate this due to not enough man power themselves, and third parties wouldn't take that great a chance to do something different enough to not maximize their return.

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OorWullie

I was watching the indie sizzle reel and Huntdown really caught my eye. I just had a search for any more info on it and found this trailer, it looks great.

I had no idea this was already announced for Switch at E3.

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MFD

@Paraka Course, a system is far more than a deal, but if they're haemorrhaging money, then the deals they've been making would've been very risky to say the least, right?

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EvilLucario

@Paraka Mm, doesn't sound good for them then. Regardless, afterwards we both pretty much said the same thing.

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GrailUK

@FragRed Oh I know, I said at the start he was spreading horse..erm...nonsense. But certainly food for thought.

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GrailUK

Oh I hope NintendoUK hasn't spoilt the direct tomorrow. Having said that...omg the indie game scene is looking amazing!

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MFD

@antster1983 Ahh, Tiyuri, one the developers who used to work for Redigit on Terraria a while back,

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Paraka

@UmniKnight - Not entirely. Various departments within a company sort of work like sister companies. Where making a whole new system this fresh off a PS4 Pro release would require hundreds of millions in marketing, testing, selling into stores, selling kits into dev teams... The deals making exclusive pale in comparison. Generally they front a good sum of dev costs and run marketing with a system and game shelf space already pre-sold into stores.

Look at it similar to how Disney owns Marvel and the Comic sector of Marvel is in the tubes. Marvel CAN have an experiment or two with restructuring their workforce. However, just cause theu have billions at their back doesn't mean Disney is willing to part with so much just flushed down the toilet with a avenue of revenue being butchered by various failed practices. Think of it that way, but with Sony in its entirety to owning Sony Entertainment.

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