Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

I mean, Fallout 4 barely runs at an acceptable level of performance on the vanilla Xbox One and PS4, so a Switch version would be a waste.

@MegaTen Publishers are allowed to announce more than one game for a console...

@IceClimbers Not only the first two Jackbox Party Packs, but the Switch is the first confirmed console platform for The Jackbox Party Pack 4, coming out this autumn.

@Ralizah I would also think that Bethesda wants to see how Skyrim does before they try to attempt to Optimize Fallout 4 for the switch (I'll firmly pass...FO4 was a snooze fest for me). While in general TES and FO fans are different audiences, I think the average mainstream gamer (and even Bethesda themselves sometimes) lump them together so if you have a choice between TES with swords or TES with guns and the swords game is older...many people will pass that up for the newer game. All speculation of course.

I know one thing...I wish that Capcom would port Dragon's dogma.

@Ryu_Niiyama @Ralizah I mean why WOULD they announce a second game while they're still working on the first game that is the first time they've EVER supported a Nintendo console? Unlike Capcom, it makes sense for Bethesda to "wait and see" since they're new to Nintendo entirely with no way to know what their connection to the audience is. Also Nintendo came to them for Skyrim, I doubt Nintendo would actively seek Fallout.

FO IS TES with guns. That's why I hate Bethesda Fallout games. I'm convinced Bethesda Fallout is only fun for people who never played Black Isle Fallout. It feels like a Fallout themed TES mod to me.

@NEStalgia That's what I said...mostly. But I think that Fallout 3 tried to have more of the spirit of the older games in the dialogue and perks...4 is just straight up Skyrim with guns and mass effect dialogue.

@Ryu_Niiyama I haven't played 4 (nobody's paid me to play it yet.... ), but I could barely tolerate 3. I didn't get much of a FO1&2 vibe from the dialogue. Though the perks were a familiar mechanic, of course. The dialog was just.....not really FO. Technically I don't imagine 3 & 4 to be "bad games" if you don't know what Fallout is supposed to be, but for anyone that loved 1 & 2, 3 & presumably 4 are like playing a Pokemon game with savage beasts that spew blood. It may be a good game on its own, but it's a terrible Pokemon game.

@DarthNocturnal Even on PS4, the game can barely maintain 30 fps. They even had to disable fog effects in the DLC for the PS4 version. Now, imagine how it would perform on a machine with half the power.

@NEStalgia They released games on the NES, I believe. But yeah, I agree: they would be foolish not to see how Skyrim performs first. We're getting an apparently well-optimized version of the special edition with motion controls, Nintendo-exclusive content and everything, so it's not like it's some lazy port that won't do well anyway.

@Ryu_Niiyama Agreed. Fallout 4 was a massive bore, and inferior to every other game in the series. It barely feels like the series has evolved at all since 3 (aside from the annoying town management/customization stuff).

I'd jump on a New Vegas port right away, though.

@MegaTen No, the real reason is that the PS4 and Xbox versions already exist, so a GOTY version is essentially free money. Porting their Fallout engine to the Switch and optimising the game costs a ton of resources.

@Ralizah I don't think Home Alone and Where's Waldo really count today Those were actually sort of a "different" Bethesda back then, I think pre-ZeniMax, and they were just a dev studio while THQ published. Then there were a few Wii & DS games they PUBLISHED but did no development on which don't really count.

But, yeah, I think Skyrim with BotW gear being a BotW-like game (in some ways) is a fantastic fit for Switch. FO4....is that even a fantastic fit for PC? Home of real isometric Fallout? I think it's a fantastic fit for XBox maybe.

Ahh, New Vegas. If we could convince Bethesda to sell the rights to Obsidian, Fallout could stop sucking again.

No wonder i have so many games for New 3DS, so many discounts and demos over the years unlike Switch.

@Octane The engine is already on Switch care of Skyrim SE. Skyrim, FO4, Skyrim SE are all the Creation engine, which is just a custom fork from Gamebryo (eeeww) with some Carmack magic sprinkled in. But Skyrim SE (on Switch) is actually the NEWER version than FO4 had and has been much more heavily optimized.

So what we really want is Fallout4 SE (for all platforms) rather than a repackaged GOTY version with the older, worse engine version that doesn't run right on ANY platform.

@NEStalgia Well that explains why Fallout 4 ran like arse on consoles...

@MegaTen General rule of thumb with Bethesda.

If Bethesda published the game runs great: see Wolfenstein, DOOM, etc.

If Bethesda DEVELOPED it runs like a slug.

@MegaTen Read his post again.

I've always disliked the Elder Scrolls and Fallout games, all the way back to the PC-only stuff in the early days. I kinda always thought Western RPGs were lame, excepting Dragon Age and Mass Effect.

That being said, Fallout 4 is a much newer game than Skyrim: I don't think it would run on the Switch unless it were REALLY downgraded. Like, to the point of: what's the point? lol

@MegaTen Don't worry, no offense taken! Try harder next time

I wonder what'll be more of a mess, Skyrim for Switch at launch or the Nintendo Switch Online app

@Grumblevolcano
I think Skyrim will be fine. Everyone who's played it says it runs smooth as butter and looks great. They've had many years to iron out the kinks with this game. Each release is better than the time before.

As for the Online App, I don't doubt for a second it'll run flawlessly. The question is, will it address things like cloud saves, will it have more than just Splatnet, will it be anal
cutting off chat like the pre-release app, etc

After Skyrim, the new Doom would be the best Bethesda game to port, if they can manage it.

It is a great modern version of a classic that also appeared on Nintendo several times, beginning with the Super FX-chip enhanced, red-coloured Doom-cartridge for the SNES in 1994, then returning with the super-exclusive Doom 64 for the N64 (which is the real Doom 3 if you ask me) in 1997, and finally nice GBA handheld versions of both the original Doom and Doom II. The ip's history with Nintendo is great, and it could use another entry now that the game returned back to quality gameplay and its fast-paced roots. I don't know about you but Doom 3 didn't feel like Doom at all, and was average at best.

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